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Lecturer: duster111
Good evening everyone, the topic of today's lecture is “Drops, intermediaries.”
The lecture consists of two parts:
1. We will talk about “intermediaries” and discuss the information that relates to our work with you.
2. Let's study the category of "drops" and find out how they are useful for us.
A "Mail Forwarding" is a logistics company that gives you an address in another country.
That is, you make purchases yourself in foreign stores, and then indicate the delivery address, which is given to you by an intermediary.
This company then ships the goods you purchased to your country or another country where you want them to go.
The intermediary is used in 2 cases:
1. When the store we have chosen does not have international delivery.
The intermediary, as I already said, will help you deliver the package from the USA, Europe and other countries to your country of residence.
Many online stores do not have international delivery, so intermediaries and drops come to our rescue.
2. When you just want to consolidate packs. What kind of consolidation? - This is the process of combining several shipments of different cargo (that is, packs: you sent 2 laptops, a phone, a fishing rod and a pair of dildos to the intermediary), the intermediary can combine it all into one parcel and send it to you.
There are two main reasons why we use intermediaries.
The first reason: the store does not send goods to the Russian Federation or any other CIS country.
Let’s take the same Amazon, delivery to Russia is limited to a very small number of goods, there are no liquid items at all(
That is why we use an intermediary, pay him, he sends the parcel to your country in a way convenient for you.
The second reason: for some time we have been sending goods to an intermediary, he combines these goods into one parcel and sends them to you. The cost of delivery from an intermediary is on average about $50.
This is convenient, given that you don’t need to send one unit of goods to yourself each time, but there are nuances that we will talk about later...
Delivery costs are calculated based on the weight of your parcel:
There are 2 types of parcel weight:
1. Volumetric weight: depends on the size of the parcel and is calculated using a special formula.
2. Physical weight is the weight of the package when weighed.
Shipping costs are usually calculated based on the greater weight.
Formula for calculating volumetric weight:
length (inc) x height (inc) x width (inc) / 139 = weight in pounds.
length (cm) x width (cm) x height (cm) / 5000 (some divide by 4000) = Volumetric weight (kg).
When working with intermediaries, do not forget that they are made for ordinary ordinary buyers, and not for thousands of goods purchased using someone else’s data to pass through them.
You are probably now asking the question: “How can I find “my” intermediary? So that he doesn’t block accounts with goods, and sends them to me for cheap.”
First of all, you and I must search the Internet for reviews about the work of the intermediary we have found.
Look at the new reviews, how the broker behaved a few years ago, we are not particularly interested. Up-to-date information is important!
We read the reviews, if you find isolated cases of “bad” behavior of the intermediary, and the rest of the reviews are good, then it’s not a big deal, let’s move on to the next step.
We go to the intermediary’s website and read the FAQ.
Pay attention to the list of goods that intermediaries send to Russia - this is important, because due to the current situation in the world, most intermediaries have changed their policies, thereby adjusting the list of goods sent to the Russian Federation.
Using the example of polexp.com (Polar), the list of prohibited products (regardless of cost) includes:
- Cameras, flashes, spare parts and accessories, Air-Zinc batteries.
- Products, if more than $300: clothes, shoes, handicraft kits, camping goods (tents, blankets, sleeping bags), watches, glass, crystal, porcelain, ceramics, figurines, laptops (more than $750).
Also, recently, the EU has added three new categories of goods to the lists of goods prohibited for delivery to the Russian Federation:
- processors
- echo sounders
- drones
You can view the full list by following this link (official website): https://polexp.com/news/315.html
Also, as of June 2, 23, it became known that now poexp.com can ship consumer communication devices:
- computers (including laptops)
- tablets (including e-readers)
- hard drives, SSD, HDD
- video cards
- monitors
- printers
- modems and routers
- network hardware
- keyboards, mice, and other devices for entering information
- mobile phones and accessories for them, including smart watches, headphones, chargers
- digital cameras (including web cameras and action cameras)
This amendment does not in any way affect the other categories of goods published in the previous news: https://polexp.com/news/315.html
Link to the new amendment here: https://poexp.com/news/329.html (please read)
https://qwintry.com/ is one of the intermediaries that provides addresses in the CIS and shipping to the Russian Federation. On this page, I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the list of restrictions on sending goods to a particular country so as not to get into trouble: https://qwintry.com/ru/forbidden-goods
Also, be sure to remember that the threshold for duty-free import of goods for individuals on April 1 decreased to €200 in the EAEU (Eurasian Economic Union)
From April 1, the norms are:
– 200 euros and 31 kg – for delivery by mail or carrier
- 500 euros and 25 kg - for ground transportation.
If the value of the goods exceeds this amount or its weight is more than 31 kg, you will need to pay a duty in the amount of:
- for goods transported by a carrier or by post - 15% of the cost, but not less than 2 euros per 1 kg in terms of exceeding the norms;
- for goods imported as luggage - 30% of the cost, but not less than 4 euros per 1 kg.
It is important to note that the price of the goods sent in the parcel is indicated on the packaging. If the price does not seem reliable or is not indicated at all, the customs service uses its data on the prices of comparable goods on the market, referring to special catalogues.
We are interested in the tariffs:
- appointment
- sending
- storage of parcels.
After reading the FAQ, you will have very few questions about this intermediary.
Now, in my opinion, the most important thing is to communicate with the support team.
We write to them by email about what interests us, you can ask the most banal questions, the answers to which are written in the FAQ section. This is necessary in order to find out how efficient the intermediary is.
Agree, if you have any problems with your parcels and want to get help from the intermediary’s support as quickly as possible, then the speed of the response will be a clear plus.
Also, the speed of response of the support representative will show the speed of the intermediary himself.
What I mean:
- adding the delivered pack to your personal account
- consolidation of several products
- sending speed
and many other services that a mediator can offer. Suddenly you need them.
Normal response time: the morning of the next day after you write to them.
It’s good when there is an online chat and you get advice within 10 minutes. In most cases, such an intermediary can be trusted.
So, we talked to the support service, read the reviews, we were satisfied with the storage and shipping conditions, then we began to “feel” the medium.
Let me tell you the stages of registering an account with an intermediary:
1. Purchase of a complete set of documents (passport (first page, page with registration), SNILS, documents for payment of housing and communal services (gas, water, electricity)).
This is done so that when you are asked for these documents, you do not have problems drawing them.
2. Prepare the system: many mediators don’t care about your geolocation, but you still shouldn’t make the spread too big. Take your socks nearby.
3. Create an account with the intermediary itself. You will have a personal account (PA), the addresses available to you will be indicated there.
It will look like this: Petrov Alex / Kleyson street 66 (this is a street), 44201 (your cell number, by which the intermediary determines that the pack came specifically to you), New Port, Delaware (city, state), 17256 (zip code).
What follows is the “baptism of fire” of your chosen mediator.
Here are some rules for you:
1. Drive in stages. That is, they made 1 drive, waited for delivery, and looked at how the middleman reacted.
2. Use different types of entries for different accounts. For example, on the 1st account we enter with CC, on the second with e-gift, on the 3rd with PayPal, etc.
This is done in order to understand what the medium likes and what it doesn’t.
3. Pay special attention to the intermediary’s tariffs (acceptance, storage, forwarding).
4. Carefully study the intermediary’s rules for accepting packages. Usually they write why they are accepted and why they are not, and what documents are required at the time of receipt.
So, now let's move on to the work process.
We don’t send a mountain of iPhones there
1 phone, 1 set-top box, we are waiting
The parcel arrives, now our main task is to send the whole thing to ourselves
The first thing you need to do is order a photo of the product, unless of course the product was made from a trusted store
A photo usually costs ~$5, from the photo we immediately see that they sent us a phone and a set-top box, and not something else
Next we send a request for consolidation and sending
If everything is sent without problems, then we mark the intermediary as good
Next time you can send a little more stuff.
The most important thing in finding your intermediary is not to think that you are a carder. You are an ordinary person who wants to use the services of an intermediary.
This is what the process itself looks like
Recommendations for working with the mediator:
1. Do not send a million packs immediately after registering an account. Stay for a week, it's better
2. Clearly study the rules of operation of intermediaries, this will avoid losing packages.
3. Create a portable browser for media accounts (or set up separate sessions in antidetect), and work exclusively from it. Cookies are our everything.
4. Do not overload the site with expensive packs. It’s better to have several accounts and send only a little to each one. No normal person will buy 10 identical sweaters or gadgets in 10 days. Remember this.
5. Do not use a medium to drive in expensive equipment; it is better to use a drop. This way you won’t kill your account in case of a charge.
6. When entering, indicate the left phone number or GV (you can rent a real one in the services). You should not write the phone number of the agent or holder.
About consolidation, product description, additional services and filling out the declaration.
Never send expensive liquid and cheap clothes together.
Your liquid laptop will arrive and sit quietly, but 5 bucks sneakers can kill your account
A charge will come to the slippers and the account will be blocked along with the laptop
We send liquid goods that are dear to you to a separate intermediary account.
As soon as it arrives on Wednesday, we immediately send it to the Russian Federation.
You can save up illiquid stuff.
How to save up 500-600 dollars there, we send it to the Russian Federation.
Here are all sorts of nice things, it’s nice.
In the declaration you don’t need to go through the trouble of writing down the brand/model of socks, flash drives, etc.
We just write a flash drive, the stated cost is $5
Or, for example, Google Pixel, we write phone in the same way, and at the end you can also attribute China.
Google Pixel 7 Pro turns from $700 to $195.88 phone
You should not underestimate the cost of a liquid new product (iPhone, for example); brokers at customs know better than anyone how much a certain model of product costs.
So if you decide to indicate in your declaration that you are carrying an iPhone 15 pro max, then you do not need to write a price of $500 for it, no one will believe you, and problems will arise that you need to avoid.
I always write that the iPhone is used or refurbished (a little life hack for you).
Next, about registering in the intermediary’s personal account.
It is better to register and contact the intermediary from the country where the parcel will be sent.
What else do we see in the intermediary’s office?
There is a button to add an order. We press it when they sent us some stuff and gave us a tracking number
Add this pack to the expected ones
This is done to speed up the processing of your parcel and adding it to your personal account.
In principle, everything is intuitive, especially when the package arrives. They write to you all the actions that you must do.
Now let's talk about delivery options for your parcels.
Required links to read:
- https://poexp.com/prices.html
- https://qwintry.com/ru/shipping
These pages exist for all intermediaries, so when you find a transfer for yourself, be sure to look for similar pages on their website. Can't find it? - Write to technical support and ask.
This is very important, because this information will help you save a single pack and avoid making stupid mistakes.
There are several types of delivery
Air, land transport, used to be sea (now some intermediaries still have the option of sea delivery)
Air is the most expensive, but also the fastest
We only send heavy parcels by sea, such as disks for a car, and so on. It is possible to send goods that do not require urgent delivery. There are also goods that can only be sent by sea, such as perfume and alcohol.
The third type of ground transport
It is usually used when delivering from a neighboring country. Faster and cheaper delivery method. Customs clearance is faster than by air or sea.
Recommendations for sending goods to yourself:
1. Do not exceed the customs limit (for Russia) for one package. That is, if you indicated that the stuff in a pack exceeds the limit, then this month you will no longer be able to send a pack to the same name. He will get stuck at customs, and you will wait for a new month to clear customs. The rules are changing, check the customs website for restrictions.
2. Be clearly aware of the indicated prices for goods, links, as well as FSB notifications. For example, an iPhone arrived on Wednesday, your task is to do the following: write that the product is used, set the price 2 times lower than for a new one
3. Always underestimate the cost of goods for clothes. For example, if you are sending Nike sneakers for 300 bucks, write that the sneakers are NyFi and indicate the cost of 30-40 bucks. I always do this. The same applies to bags, pants, in general, all duffel bags. It always rolls. Because no one will bother and set a clear price for a duffel bag.
4. As for the watch, please tear the box apart and send the watch separately, the box separately (this way you can reduce its cost, a watch without a box - we write that it is Chinese).
5. As for the jewelry, we write that it is costume jewelry. And you shouldn’t put a lot in a pack. It is better to send the chain separately, the ring separately. I recommend sending the jewelry with a bunch of clothes, there is less chance of being burned by customs.
6. Send equipment 2-3 items per pack. For example, 1 iPhone + 1 Nintendo + 1 video card. There is no need to cram 10 items of all products into 1 pack. Remember that if there are 5 or more identical positions in a pack, you will fall under a commercial batch, and then you will lose the pack. Since they will ask for invoices, account statements, etc.
7. Do not accumulate packs in the middle, especially valuable ones. Your iPhone/iPad/Rolex has arrived, send it right away. It's better to pay an extra 60 bucks for shipping than to lose everything.
8. Pay the broker only with your own money. NO CARGE. Don't saw the branch you're sitting on.
The parcel arrives on average from US 2-3 weeks
During this time, the charge will arrive and sometimes parcels were unwrapped from the office in the Russian Federation
Usually, when sending a parcel, they sell you insurance, a completely unnecessary thing. Money and goods are not returned.
Next, the parcel was sent to RU, successfully passed customs, now it needs to be accepted
There are 2 options for receiving parcels. For a certain person, it could be you. And for any data
The first option is simple, they came, showed their passport, received the parcel
It’s clear that we think about safety
On our forum, guys make Russian Post/SDEK accounts for a fee
We order goods for a specific person, receive SMS at the post office and they give you a package without documents.
The second method is more expensive and safer.
Any data (full name) of parcels is accepted by drop services
In RU/KZ this service is represented by buysell and a couple more on the forum
Admission costs about 2k, they are taken from any branches under any names.
If the stuff is not for your personal use
You can accept goods from the dek from the courier using any scan printed with your face.
In any place, we called the courier and picked up the pack at the entrance of the left house, showing a copy of the left person’s passport
We're done with middlemen. Now we will talk about drops.
Drops are ordinary people who accept your packs. They come in 2 types: adjustable and non-adjustable
Divorce drops are drops that do not know that they are accepting parcels. There is always the possibility of missing drops with parcels. Such drops are searched, for example, on job sites or similar offices.
Usually they don’t send expensive packs for such drops. The lifespan of such drops is 10-15 days. The cost of accepting parcels with such drops is usually 20-50 bucks
Sometimes reception and forwarding is free from test drops.
Non-adjustable drops are a type of drops that are clearly aware of the risks they are taking. The risk of losing packs is minimized. Such drops receive a good salary and the lifespan of drops is on average 2-3 months.
However, they most often have slightly different operating rules. You can learn more about the rules from drop services that provide drop services. The cost of admission is usually 70-100 dollars or% of the cost of the pack for liquid stuff.
Recently, drop services have begun to work stingily, that is, they accept packs and pay you your %. Different drop services have different types of goods accepted and, accordingly, different percentages. For liquidated Apple equipment they can give up to 75%. By driving the stuff to be stingy, it will save you from the problem of delivering goods to the Republic of Uzbekistan and selling them, and will help you earn money much faster.
However, the amount of earnings will be much lower than if you brought the stuff to yourself and sold it to RU, this applies to top liquid expensive stuff.
If you sent the goods for sale, on average a week passes from the moment the pack is sent for drop until payment is received. And if you send the goods to an intermediary and want to sell them in RU, on average it will take 4-5 weeks. Here it’s up to you to decide, quickly and little, or long and more
How to choose a drop service?
The same rules apply here as when searching for an intermediary. Of course, the drop service has already been prepared in advance for Karzh and his colleagues, they understand perfectly well that the product will not be driven in
There are many worthy offers on our forum in a special section, I won’t recommend anything, but there is a large selection and it won’t be difficult to find what you want
How to start working with the service and find your dropshipper
First of all, we look at all the offers and compare what is closer to us. We study the rules of each service. Prices, online, number of drops and their geography (maybe we work in one state, for example), availability of a panel, compensation rules.
The panel is a separate website that contains all the drops and you can add your purchases, track them, compare drops, and so on, just like in an online service.
The panel is super convenient when you can add a product, see drops in your state, many also keep drop statistics
Example: https://prnt.sc/10p99rk
This is what it looks like + - it’s the same for everyone, they typed it in, got the track, added the pack.
Further. We look at the offers, first of all, if we want to work stingily at first (sell drop goods for a percentage), we look for a list of accepted goods.
Often it is in the panel, on the forum, or an updated one can be obtained from the dropshipper
As a rule, large services have a list of liquid and non-liquid goods.
Liquid is an apple, phones, watches, laptops, PC components, etc., that is, these are goods that avaricious people can quickly sell, so there is a relatively good interest rate on them.
Unliquid assets are everything else, car rims, strollers, penises, etc. The percentage here is minimal 15-25, but think that the fraud of a website selling strollers is much lower than that of ebay and you can simply earn stable volumes of bread and butter and even sprinkle some caviar
After studying, time to write to contacts
First of all, we look at what contacts the service leaves, for example, I am an ardent toad hater, for me this is not efficient and last century.
Now we have found contacts, be polite, write in the first message what you do, how many packs a week, how you do it (without details) and ask what is not clear to you in the rules, for example, if you did not find your product in the positions - will you accept it in job, if you're new, it's better to indicate that too
Afterwards, the admin will decide what to do with you and will either give you a log password and access to the panel, or say that we don’t work with novoregs
As a rule, the panel itself is super-loyal in design and intuitively simple. The first thing we are interested in is the menu item – drops. Let’s go and see how we have a list of all the drops in a tabular format. Let's look at what states there are, how many people there are in each
What information is given. First name, last name, address. Many panels keep statistics - this is very important, you can see how long it has been working, how much it took, whether there were any problems, whether there is anything going on it now. Don't overload the drops, we are all human
And we can all break down when a watch, laptop, phone arrives to you and you are semi-legal, in general, nothing prevents the drop from disappearing in new Rolexes while looking for a date on Tinder for the evening through a brand new iPhone Pro Max
General tips and tricks:
1. Don’t all go for one drop. It’s better to split your parcels into several, just remember – even a manual drop is sinful and under the pressure of temptation, it can disappear with your pack
2. I don’t care about the name of the drop, they take it using a fake ID, so just make sure that the pickup point is close to it. No one will drive a drop in a car for a pack that costs 200 bucks, more expensive - discuss with the sap
3. In general, discuss all unclear points with your sap so that there is no mistake
4. Carefully fill out the information in the panel, this will speed up your work and avoid mistakes
5. Be adequate, there is no competition here and no one expects volumes from you, if you do well, ask for individual conditions for yourself, drop managers are adequate people and think like businessmen.
Then, everything is clear, they put it on the drop, he went and picked it up, and you also ask him to take a photo and check the goods.
If you are being stingy, the service will already pay you everything.
Prepare your wallet and accept the coin.
If you carry goods for yourself, then you need to prepare a label
As soon as the drops receive the pack, the drop service requires a label to send it to the middleman.
A label is like a postal form. That is, a piece of paper that says who it was sent from, what address it came from, who it was addressed to and to what address.
Such labels can be ordered on the forum from the relevant sellers. Typically, a karzh label costs about 5-10 bucks; if the label is white, the price can reach $500, for example, for a 70-inch plasma.
The price depends on the dimensions and the sending distance of the parcel.
The label is needed so that the dropshipper does not bother with filling out documents, paying, etc., but simply sticks this piece of paper on the parcel and takes it to the post office, where they will silently take it from him and it will go to its destination.
You can read and look at an example of a label here: https://postagemaker.com/publications/14-shipping-labels-usps
Also here: https://qwintry.com/ru/articles/qwintry-global-explained
The information in the label is always +/- the same, there are items such as:
1 – full name of the sender
2 – Sender's street
3 – City/State/Sender Zip Code
4 – recipient’s full name
5 – Recipient street
6 - Recipient City/State/Zip Code
7 – Date sent
8 – Parcel weight
9 – Delivery date
10 – Parcel track number
All this data is needed to design the label
This concludes our lecture. Put a "?" sign if you have any questions, I will answer everyone in order)
vitoscanelli 20:19
1 what does portal browser mean?
2 pay in the middle with your own money *that is, what is it?* (card, crypto?)
duster111 20:21
vitoscanelli, 1. Portable is a version of the application that can be launched directly from portable storage devices, such as USB drives. It can be run even on computers on which installation of any programs is prohibited.
2. There are those who accept crypto, but there are not many of them. You can create virtual cards, drop cards, PayPal, anything in principle, the main thing is that the intermediary accepts it from there. You can upload through exchanges on exchanges, in exchangers
Stralixxx 20:21
If the drop fails, does the service reimburse the losses?
duster111 20:21
Stralixxx, depends on the service, you need to read their FAQ or ask support
stormspecter 20:22
I wonder how things are if you do it with the EU in EU, is it easy to get the left docks, customs, and working with EU in general
Are there any examples of working on EU with intermediaries and drops?
so interested in eu-eu drop services
duster111 20:24
stormspecter, I have never done anything with USY in EU, but I think that there is nothing too complicated either. Just study the limits, restrictions, rules, etc. We have services on the forum that deliver to the EU.
pyokey 20:25
1.Rendering documents
Page with registration and documents for payment of gas to which address should I do?
2.If the store has delivery to my country, what is the best way to order?
duster111 20:26
pyokey, 1. To the address of the person to whom the account is registered
2. Now the best option: USA - KZ - RU (I gave services for bypassing various duties in lectures, buysell - on our forum, this is a person’s nickname)
Mr_Lotus 20:26
1.Why can’t a drop be asked to consolidate packs for example?
Why is a mediator more convenient in this case?
2.Can the intermediary be from the CIS or is it always a foreign company?
3. 6. When entering, indicate the left phone number or GV (you can rent a real one from services). You should not write the phone number of the agent or holder.
I don't quite understand what we're talking about. What does GW mean? And I understood correctly that when entering into a shop it is meant not to indicate the number of the intermediary who provides the address and forwards it and the holder of the CC with which the entry is going or what are we talking about?
5. In what cases is it better to use drops to send a pack (not stingily) to my location, and in what cases are they purely forwarders/intermediaries?
6. Does the drop on the fake ID take away the pack?
7. Does direct communication with the drop usually happen in TG or only through sapa?
duster111 20:32
Mr_Lotus, 1. It is possible, but we were talking about intermediaries, in this context there was a conversation) Whether or not to work with intermediaries is up to you to decide, we can only give you options
2. Maybe from the CIS
3. GV (Google Voice) is a free Internet service from Google that uses voice transmission over the VoIP protocol with the ability to connect all user phone numbers together.
Yes, you should never indicate the agent’s number; this is a red flag for the anti-fraud system. You can specify the KX address, but then you need to flood the CH number, you will talk about this in the next lectures
4. As I wrote above, the best chain now is: USA - KZ - RU (I gave services for bypassing various duties in lectures, buysell is on our forum, this is a person’s nickname)
5. Maybe by Fake id, maybe by proxy, it depends on the service and their capabilities
6. Through Sappa
Snork 20:32
I understand, of course, that sending money to yourself gives you more profit. But this is clearly a mistake; at any stage you can make a mistake. Are there any statistics on such mistakes, how often does the desire to drive the latest iPhone lead to bad consequences?
duster111 20:33
Snork, I don’t know of any cases where people were imprisoned for a duffel bag, I haven’t even heard of such things
ht_ice 20:34
1. Why do you need a housing and communal services payment invoice in the package of documents?
2. I didn’t quite understand about the reversal of the packs, already on the territory of the Russian Federation
If the pack is already somewhere along the US-RU road, and a charge arrives for the goods, will it be deployed?
Or does this relate to payment for services from an intermediary with CC?
3. For jewelry, that is, we collect conditionally 6 positions (packs) of which 2 are jewelry, which means we need to consolidate 2 packs of 3 positions, right?
4. “make sure the pickup point is close to it” what is a pickup point?
duster111 20:37
ht_ice, 1. May request an intermediary to ensure that you are the real owner of the documents
2. I didn’t have to be deployed already in the Republic of Uzbekistan. It happened that a parcel was confiscated because they didn’t like the prices)
3. Consolidation - combining into one package, anything can be there
4. Pickup - you enter the goods at the address of the card owner, after which the caller calls the courier and asks not to deliver the goods home, but to leave it at the post office (pickup point), then the drop moves out and picks up the pack.
You will talk about this in future lectures, thematic
KimJo 20:38
1. If sometimes stingy people take liquidity at 50-60%, isn’t it more profitable and faster than using drops for themselves?
2. If sending to yourself is still more profitable than through avarice, then approximately what % (hypothetically) more?
3. Although we don’t show off our documents, when we receive the parcel we PERSONALLY come and the cameras and people “remember” us. If suddenly someone later decides to contact us, it will be quite simple if the person (and these are the majority) left a mark on social networks or somewhere else? (Earlier they answered that there were no cases of clothing fraud, but we don’t just encrypt VPNs, encryption, etc.)
4. Stingy - do they work more often as drops (requires driving into the middle at the beginning) or as a middle+drop?
5. Very often I notice that they write about the purchase of rubber penises... A very popular, although not liquid, product, does it make sense to add it?)
6. What is the difference between a brown label and a white one?
duster111 20:46
KimJo, KimJo, 1. Not faster, but faster to give away to the stingy
2. By 20-30%
3. Yes, cameras are now everywhere, including in the PVZ. All adequate users are encrypted, it is clear that I meant those who do not neglect basic security methods
4. They immediately accept their drops/addresses
5. At this time, probably no longer, but if you find a shop that gives it and is stingy with this product, then of course it makes sense)
6. They can turn the parcel around during transportation and send it to a punishment warehouse; this will not happen with white
Fuerza 20:47
1. You said: “many media don’t care about your geolocation, but you still shouldn’t make the spread too big. Take your socks close.” You mean near the intended place of receiving the parcel in the Russian Federation, right? (How much variation is acceptable, within the region is acceptable?) Recommend an adequate shop sox.
2. Is it worth warming up sessions for the cdekID registry and Russian Post?
duster111 20:49
Fuerza, HotSocks, is on the forum. In fact, you can take any IP from RU (if you are from there and your account is from there), BUT I speak from experience, I logged in from different IPs to the RU account in the middle and nothing happened, I think that they don’t care at all, but I’ll warn you must
2. It’s better to buy an account, there are sellers, there will be the left data that we need
BaronLuffy 20:49
“When entering, indicate the left phone number or GV (you can rent a real one in the services)” Will the anti-fraud system swear in this case?
duster111 20:51
BaronLuffy, depends on the selected shop and its AF settings
timbuhta 20:53
We buy passport data for registration from an agent. Why might we then need rendering if we have photos/scans of the original documents? might you need to verify with your face in a video call (or with the face of a drop) or something like that?
duster111 20:54
timbuhta, services request different receipts to confirm your identity, they usually don’t ask for a video call, but they can often request other pieces of paper at your residential address, so this is
basharassad 20:57
If you ship on the middle, the pack will go from the store to the holder’s name. Do resellers accept such packs if they go to the holder’s name? and you have account on another name. Previously, they seemed to be strict about this: they accepted parcels strictly in your name and sent them as well. or are they now calm to different names?
duster111 20:58
basharassad, no, you must write a different recipient's name, not CH. Previously, then, now - the main thing is to find a shop that allows you to work like this)
Balto 20:58
when we connect to a service with a drop, do we need to look for another agent to which they will send for sending to the Russian Federation or do they already have their own agent?
duster111 20:59
Balto, you need to look for an intermediary in most cases so that the drop can be sent to it, and only then forwarded to you
Check with the support staff of the drop services you work with
ya8no 21:00
In connection with the answer about 0 cases of clogs in clothing bags - an immodest question. How many years have you been in the subject? and another question . I googled about receiving parcels by scan - they often write that you can’t do that. are they deceiving? )
duster111 21:02
ya8no, more than 5. You can receive a parcel by scan only if you meet the courier, they don’t care about it, they don’t require a passport, I haven’t met such principled ones) Someone gave it without any documents at all. If you receive it at a pick-up point, you won’t be able to receive it from a scan, right?
Mr_Lotus 21:02
Yes, you should never indicate the agent’s number; this is a red flag for the anti-fraud system.
That is, you can specify any left number with a matching geo? Should I take the number on the same SMS activator?
duster111 21:03
Mr_Lotus, now there are a lot of services that rent out real numbers, but you will talk about this in further lectures, where the options will be described to you in detail. SMS activator will no longer work)
KimJo 21:03
When indicating a non-CH name for shops (and intermediaries), should it be a random person or better yet, someone who is supposedly familiar with CH (wife/husband, son/daughter, dog, parrot)?
duster111 21:04
KimJo, you have two options here: indicate the name of the CH (for pickup/re-routing), indicate the name of the recipient, the one who will accept the documents
LENNY BELARDO 21:05
If I am in the EU and will order from other EU countries, what is the procedure then? It is not possible to use the KZ-RU combination. Should I pick up the parcels myself on the left scan of the documents or can I just send them sparingly and can’t pay anything for myself?
duster111 21:06
I haven’t worked with the EU, you need to study the rules for your country specifically, but it’s all freely available. It’s safer to send drops to EU, then from the drop you can ask to send it to some cell in the pick-up point, if you have one, and pick it up from there yourself
Mr_Lotus 21:07
If in most cases you still need to look for an intermediary to send the package to me, then is there any point in using a drop service when you send it to your location?
duster111 21:09
Mr_Lotus, yes, it makes sense, because the addresses of intermediaries are most often on the blacklists of shops and they won’t let you send them there (this does not mean that you can’t work with intermediaries, you can, you just need to look for shops for them), and the addresses of drops are not highlighted as often as the addresses of intermediaries, it will be possible to send to them from shops without any problems
ya8no 21:10
what is reroute?)
duster111 21:10
ya8no, parcel redirection. That is, it goes to CH, but during the delivery process you change the receiving point
Fuerza 21:17
What initial amount would you recommend getting from an unverified shop with CC?
duster111 21:18
Fuerza, you need to evaluate the shop, and for this you need to learn how to choose them, there will be details on this topic in the next lectures. You can drive in change up to $200-300
timbuhta 21:18
Returning to my question about rendering: why then can’t you first just register an account using some plausible data, and then, if the intermediary asks for a scan of your passport + various receipts, draw all this stuff? Or is there something like a publicly available breakdown based on the series and number of the passport, and it will be clear that the data is fictitious?
duster111 21:20
Timbuhta, that's what we do. We bought a scan of the passport, we register the intermediary’s account with this data, and then, if requested, we draw
Granularius 21:24
Are there shops now that send packs to intermediary addresses, provided that the beat and spike address are different?
duster111 21:25
Granularius, yes, they exist. There are teams who only work with this
I hope everyone liked everything, I tried to convey everything to you as clearly as possible. I was glad to see everyone at the lecture, I wish everyone well!
Good evening everyone, the topic of today's lecture is “Drops, intermediaries.”
The lecture consists of two parts:
1. We will talk about “intermediaries” and discuss the information that relates to our work with you.
2. Let's study the category of "drops" and find out how they are useful for us.
A "Mail Forwarding" is a logistics company that gives you an address in another country.
That is, you make purchases yourself in foreign stores, and then indicate the delivery address, which is given to you by an intermediary.
This company then ships the goods you purchased to your country or another country where you want them to go.
The intermediary is used in 2 cases:
1. When the store we have chosen does not have international delivery.
The intermediary, as I already said, will help you deliver the package from the USA, Europe and other countries to your country of residence.
Many online stores do not have international delivery, so intermediaries and drops come to our rescue.
2. When you just want to consolidate packs. What kind of consolidation? - This is the process of combining several shipments of different cargo (that is, packs: you sent 2 laptops, a phone, a fishing rod and a pair of dildos to the intermediary), the intermediary can combine it all into one parcel and send it to you.
There are two main reasons why we use intermediaries.
The first reason: the store does not send goods to the Russian Federation or any other CIS country.
Let’s take the same Amazon, delivery to Russia is limited to a very small number of goods, there are no liquid items at all(
That is why we use an intermediary, pay him, he sends the parcel to your country in a way convenient for you.
The second reason: for some time we have been sending goods to an intermediary, he combines these goods into one parcel and sends them to you. The cost of delivery from an intermediary is on average about $50.
This is convenient, given that you don’t need to send one unit of goods to yourself each time, but there are nuances that we will talk about later...
Delivery costs are calculated based on the weight of your parcel:
There are 2 types of parcel weight:
1. Volumetric weight: depends on the size of the parcel and is calculated using a special formula.
2. Physical weight is the weight of the package when weighed.
Shipping costs are usually calculated based on the greater weight.
Formula for calculating volumetric weight:
length (inc) x height (inc) x width (inc) / 139 = weight in pounds.
length (cm) x width (cm) x height (cm) / 5000 (some divide by 4000) = Volumetric weight (kg).
When working with intermediaries, do not forget that they are made for ordinary ordinary buyers, and not for thousands of goods purchased using someone else’s data to pass through them.
You are probably now asking the question: “How can I find “my” intermediary? So that he doesn’t block accounts with goods, and sends them to me for cheap.”
First of all, you and I must search the Internet for reviews about the work of the intermediary we have found.
Look at the new reviews, how the broker behaved a few years ago, we are not particularly interested. Up-to-date information is important!
We read the reviews, if you find isolated cases of “bad” behavior of the intermediary, and the rest of the reviews are good, then it’s not a big deal, let’s move on to the next step.
We go to the intermediary’s website and read the FAQ.
Pay attention to the list of goods that intermediaries send to Russia - this is important, because due to the current situation in the world, most intermediaries have changed their policies, thereby adjusting the list of goods sent to the Russian Federation.
Using the example of polexp.com (Polar), the list of prohibited products (regardless of cost) includes:
- Cameras, flashes, spare parts and accessories, Air-Zinc batteries.
- Products, if more than $300: clothes, shoes, handicraft kits, camping goods (tents, blankets, sleeping bags), watches, glass, crystal, porcelain, ceramics, figurines, laptops (more than $750).
Also, recently, the EU has added three new categories of goods to the lists of goods prohibited for delivery to the Russian Federation:
- processors
- echo sounders
- drones
You can view the full list by following this link (official website): https://polexp.com/news/315.html
Also, as of June 2, 23, it became known that now poexp.com can ship consumer communication devices:
- computers (including laptops)
- tablets (including e-readers)
- hard drives, SSD, HDD
- video cards
- monitors
- printers
- modems and routers
- network hardware
- keyboards, mice, and other devices for entering information
- mobile phones and accessories for them, including smart watches, headphones, chargers
- digital cameras (including web cameras and action cameras)
This amendment does not in any way affect the other categories of goods published in the previous news: https://polexp.com/news/315.html
Link to the new amendment here: https://poexp.com/news/329.html (please read)
https://qwintry.com/ is one of the intermediaries that provides addresses in the CIS and shipping to the Russian Federation. On this page, I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the list of restrictions on sending goods to a particular country so as not to get into trouble: https://qwintry.com/ru/forbidden-goods
Also, be sure to remember that the threshold for duty-free import of goods for individuals on April 1 decreased to €200 in the EAEU (Eurasian Economic Union)
From April 1, the norms are:
– 200 euros and 31 kg – for delivery by mail or carrier
- 500 euros and 25 kg - for ground transportation.
If the value of the goods exceeds this amount or its weight is more than 31 kg, you will need to pay a duty in the amount of:
- for goods transported by a carrier or by post - 15% of the cost, but not less than 2 euros per 1 kg in terms of exceeding the norms;
- for goods imported as luggage - 30% of the cost, but not less than 4 euros per 1 kg.
It is important to note that the price of the goods sent in the parcel is indicated on the packaging. If the price does not seem reliable or is not indicated at all, the customs service uses its data on the prices of comparable goods on the market, referring to special catalogues.
We are interested in the tariffs:
- appointment
- sending
- storage of parcels.
After reading the FAQ, you will have very few questions about this intermediary.
Now, in my opinion, the most important thing is to communicate with the support team.
We write to them by email about what interests us, you can ask the most banal questions, the answers to which are written in the FAQ section. This is necessary in order to find out how efficient the intermediary is.
Agree, if you have any problems with your parcels and want to get help from the intermediary’s support as quickly as possible, then the speed of the response will be a clear plus.
Also, the speed of response of the support representative will show the speed of the intermediary himself.
What I mean:
- adding the delivered pack to your personal account
- consolidation of several products
- sending speed
and many other services that a mediator can offer. Suddenly you need them.
Normal response time: the morning of the next day after you write to them.
It’s good when there is an online chat and you get advice within 10 minutes. In most cases, such an intermediary can be trusted.
So, we talked to the support service, read the reviews, we were satisfied with the storage and shipping conditions, then we began to “feel” the medium.
Let me tell you the stages of registering an account with an intermediary:
1. Purchase of a complete set of documents (passport (first page, page with registration), SNILS, documents for payment of housing and communal services (gas, water, electricity)).
This is done so that when you are asked for these documents, you do not have problems drawing them.
2. Prepare the system: many mediators don’t care about your geolocation, but you still shouldn’t make the spread too big. Take your socks nearby.
3. Create an account with the intermediary itself. You will have a personal account (PA), the addresses available to you will be indicated there.
It will look like this: Petrov Alex / Kleyson street 66 (this is a street), 44201 (your cell number, by which the intermediary determines that the pack came specifically to you), New Port, Delaware (city, state), 17256 (zip code).
What follows is the “baptism of fire” of your chosen mediator.
Here are some rules for you:
1. Drive in stages. That is, they made 1 drive, waited for delivery, and looked at how the middleman reacted.
2. Use different types of entries for different accounts. For example, on the 1st account we enter with CC, on the second with e-gift, on the 3rd with PayPal, etc.
This is done in order to understand what the medium likes and what it doesn’t.
3. Pay special attention to the intermediary’s tariffs (acceptance, storage, forwarding).
4. Carefully study the intermediary’s rules for accepting packages. Usually they write why they are accepted and why they are not, and what documents are required at the time of receipt.
So, now let's move on to the work process.
We don’t send a mountain of iPhones there
1 phone, 1 set-top box, we are waiting
The parcel arrives, now our main task is to send the whole thing to ourselves
The first thing you need to do is order a photo of the product, unless of course the product was made from a trusted store
A photo usually costs ~$5, from the photo we immediately see that they sent us a phone and a set-top box, and not something else
Next we send a request for consolidation and sending
If everything is sent without problems, then we mark the intermediary as good
Next time you can send a little more stuff.
The most important thing in finding your intermediary is not to think that you are a carder. You are an ordinary person who wants to use the services of an intermediary.
This is what the process itself looks like
Recommendations for working with the mediator:
1. Do not send a million packs immediately after registering an account. Stay for a week, it's better
2. Clearly study the rules of operation of intermediaries, this will avoid losing packages.
3. Create a portable browser for media accounts (or set up separate sessions in antidetect), and work exclusively from it. Cookies are our everything.
4. Do not overload the site with expensive packs. It’s better to have several accounts and send only a little to each one. No normal person will buy 10 identical sweaters or gadgets in 10 days. Remember this.
5. Do not use a medium to drive in expensive equipment; it is better to use a drop. This way you won’t kill your account in case of a charge.
6. When entering, indicate the left phone number or GV (you can rent a real one in the services). You should not write the phone number of the agent or holder.
About consolidation, product description, additional services and filling out the declaration.
Never send expensive liquid and cheap clothes together.
Your liquid laptop will arrive and sit quietly, but 5 bucks sneakers can kill your account
A charge will come to the slippers and the account will be blocked along with the laptop
We send liquid goods that are dear to you to a separate intermediary account.
As soon as it arrives on Wednesday, we immediately send it to the Russian Federation.
You can save up illiquid stuff.
How to save up 500-600 dollars there, we send it to the Russian Federation.
Here are all sorts of nice things, it’s nice.
In the declaration you don’t need to go through the trouble of writing down the brand/model of socks, flash drives, etc.
We just write a flash drive, the stated cost is $5
Or, for example, Google Pixel, we write phone in the same way, and at the end you can also attribute China.
Google Pixel 7 Pro turns from $700 to $195.88 phone
You should not underestimate the cost of a liquid new product (iPhone, for example); brokers at customs know better than anyone how much a certain model of product costs.
So if you decide to indicate in your declaration that you are carrying an iPhone 15 pro max, then you do not need to write a price of $500 for it, no one will believe you, and problems will arise that you need to avoid.
I always write that the iPhone is used or refurbished (a little life hack for you).
Next, about registering in the intermediary’s personal account.
It is better to register and contact the intermediary from the country where the parcel will be sent.
What else do we see in the intermediary’s office?
There is a button to add an order. We press it when they sent us some stuff and gave us a tracking number
Add this pack to the expected ones
This is done to speed up the processing of your parcel and adding it to your personal account.
In principle, everything is intuitive, especially when the package arrives. They write to you all the actions that you must do.
Now let's talk about delivery options for your parcels.
Required links to read:
- https://poexp.com/prices.html
- https://qwintry.com/ru/shipping
These pages exist for all intermediaries, so when you find a transfer for yourself, be sure to look for similar pages on their website. Can't find it? - Write to technical support and ask.
This is very important, because this information will help you save a single pack and avoid making stupid mistakes.
There are several types of delivery
Air, land transport, used to be sea (now some intermediaries still have the option of sea delivery)
Air is the most expensive, but also the fastest
We only send heavy parcels by sea, such as disks for a car, and so on. It is possible to send goods that do not require urgent delivery. There are also goods that can only be sent by sea, such as perfume and alcohol.
The third type of ground transport
It is usually used when delivering from a neighboring country. Faster and cheaper delivery method. Customs clearance is faster than by air or sea.
Recommendations for sending goods to yourself:
1. Do not exceed the customs limit (for Russia) for one package. That is, if you indicated that the stuff in a pack exceeds the limit, then this month you will no longer be able to send a pack to the same name. He will get stuck at customs, and you will wait for a new month to clear customs. The rules are changing, check the customs website for restrictions.
2. Be clearly aware of the indicated prices for goods, links, as well as FSB notifications. For example, an iPhone arrived on Wednesday, your task is to do the following: write that the product is used, set the price 2 times lower than for a new one
3. Always underestimate the cost of goods for clothes. For example, if you are sending Nike sneakers for 300 bucks, write that the sneakers are NyFi and indicate the cost of 30-40 bucks. I always do this. The same applies to bags, pants, in general, all duffel bags. It always rolls. Because no one will bother and set a clear price for a duffel bag.
4. As for the watch, please tear the box apart and send the watch separately, the box separately (this way you can reduce its cost, a watch without a box - we write that it is Chinese).
5. As for the jewelry, we write that it is costume jewelry. And you shouldn’t put a lot in a pack. It is better to send the chain separately, the ring separately. I recommend sending the jewelry with a bunch of clothes, there is less chance of being burned by customs.
6. Send equipment 2-3 items per pack. For example, 1 iPhone + 1 Nintendo + 1 video card. There is no need to cram 10 items of all products into 1 pack. Remember that if there are 5 or more identical positions in a pack, you will fall under a commercial batch, and then you will lose the pack. Since they will ask for invoices, account statements, etc.
7. Do not accumulate packs in the middle, especially valuable ones. Your iPhone/iPad/Rolex has arrived, send it right away. It's better to pay an extra 60 bucks for shipping than to lose everything.
8. Pay the broker only with your own money. NO CARGE. Don't saw the branch you're sitting on.
The parcel arrives on average from US 2-3 weeks
During this time, the charge will arrive and sometimes parcels were unwrapped from the office in the Russian Federation
Usually, when sending a parcel, they sell you insurance, a completely unnecessary thing. Money and goods are not returned.
Next, the parcel was sent to RU, successfully passed customs, now it needs to be accepted
There are 2 options for receiving parcels. For a certain person, it could be you. And for any data
The first option is simple, they came, showed their passport, received the parcel
It’s clear that we think about safety
On our forum, guys make Russian Post/SDEK accounts for a fee
We order goods for a specific person, receive SMS at the post office and they give you a package without documents.
The second method is more expensive and safer.
Any data (full name) of parcels is accepted by drop services
In RU/KZ this service is represented by buysell and a couple more on the forum
Admission costs about 2k, they are taken from any branches under any names.
If the stuff is not for your personal use
You can accept goods from the dek from the courier using any scan printed with your face.
In any place, we called the courier and picked up the pack at the entrance of the left house, showing a copy of the left person’s passport
We're done with middlemen. Now we will talk about drops.
Drops are ordinary people who accept your packs. They come in 2 types: adjustable and non-adjustable
Divorce drops are drops that do not know that they are accepting parcels. There is always the possibility of missing drops with parcels. Such drops are searched, for example, on job sites or similar offices.
Usually they don’t send expensive packs for such drops. The lifespan of such drops is 10-15 days. The cost of accepting parcels with such drops is usually 20-50 bucks
Sometimes reception and forwarding is free from test drops.
Non-adjustable drops are a type of drops that are clearly aware of the risks they are taking. The risk of losing packs is minimized. Such drops receive a good salary and the lifespan of drops is on average 2-3 months.
However, they most often have slightly different operating rules. You can learn more about the rules from drop services that provide drop services. The cost of admission is usually 70-100 dollars or% of the cost of the pack for liquid stuff.
Recently, drop services have begun to work stingily, that is, they accept packs and pay you your %. Different drop services have different types of goods accepted and, accordingly, different percentages. For liquidated Apple equipment they can give up to 75%. By driving the stuff to be stingy, it will save you from the problem of delivering goods to the Republic of Uzbekistan and selling them, and will help you earn money much faster.
However, the amount of earnings will be much lower than if you brought the stuff to yourself and sold it to RU, this applies to top liquid expensive stuff.
If you sent the goods for sale, on average a week passes from the moment the pack is sent for drop until payment is received. And if you send the goods to an intermediary and want to sell them in RU, on average it will take 4-5 weeks. Here it’s up to you to decide, quickly and little, or long and more
How to choose a drop service?
The same rules apply here as when searching for an intermediary. Of course, the drop service has already been prepared in advance for Karzh and his colleagues, they understand perfectly well that the product will not be driven in
There are many worthy offers on our forum in a special section, I won’t recommend anything, but there is a large selection and it won’t be difficult to find what you want
How to start working with the service and find your dropshipper
First of all, we look at all the offers and compare what is closer to us. We study the rules of each service. Prices, online, number of drops and their geography (maybe we work in one state, for example), availability of a panel, compensation rules.
The panel is a separate website that contains all the drops and you can add your purchases, track them, compare drops, and so on, just like in an online service.
The panel is super convenient when you can add a product, see drops in your state, many also keep drop statistics
Example: https://prnt.sc/10p99rk
This is what it looks like + - it’s the same for everyone, they typed it in, got the track, added the pack.
Further. We look at the offers, first of all, if we want to work stingily at first (sell drop goods for a percentage), we look for a list of accepted goods.
Often it is in the panel, on the forum, or an updated one can be obtained from the dropshipper
As a rule, large services have a list of liquid and non-liquid goods.
Liquid is an apple, phones, watches, laptops, PC components, etc., that is, these are goods that avaricious people can quickly sell, so there is a relatively good interest rate on them.
Unliquid assets are everything else, car rims, strollers, penises, etc. The percentage here is minimal 15-25, but think that the fraud of a website selling strollers is much lower than that of ebay and you can simply earn stable volumes of bread and butter and even sprinkle some caviar
After studying, time to write to contacts
First of all, we look at what contacts the service leaves, for example, I am an ardent toad hater, for me this is not efficient and last century.
Now we have found contacts, be polite, write in the first message what you do, how many packs a week, how you do it (without details) and ask what is not clear to you in the rules, for example, if you did not find your product in the positions - will you accept it in job, if you're new, it's better to indicate that too
Afterwards, the admin will decide what to do with you and will either give you a log password and access to the panel, or say that we don’t work with novoregs
As a rule, the panel itself is super-loyal in design and intuitively simple. The first thing we are interested in is the menu item – drops. Let’s go and see how we have a list of all the drops in a tabular format. Let's look at what states there are, how many people there are in each
What information is given. First name, last name, address. Many panels keep statistics - this is very important, you can see how long it has been working, how much it took, whether there were any problems, whether there is anything going on it now. Don't overload the drops, we are all human
And we can all break down when a watch, laptop, phone arrives to you and you are semi-legal, in general, nothing prevents the drop from disappearing in new Rolexes while looking for a date on Tinder for the evening through a brand new iPhone Pro Max
General tips and tricks:
1. Don’t all go for one drop. It’s better to split your parcels into several, just remember – even a manual drop is sinful and under the pressure of temptation, it can disappear with your pack
2. I don’t care about the name of the drop, they take it using a fake ID, so just make sure that the pickup point is close to it. No one will drive a drop in a car for a pack that costs 200 bucks, more expensive - discuss with the sap
3. In general, discuss all unclear points with your sap so that there is no mistake
4. Carefully fill out the information in the panel, this will speed up your work and avoid mistakes
5. Be adequate, there is no competition here and no one expects volumes from you, if you do well, ask for individual conditions for yourself, drop managers are adequate people and think like businessmen.
Then, everything is clear, they put it on the drop, he went and picked it up, and you also ask him to take a photo and check the goods.
If you are being stingy, the service will already pay you everything.
Prepare your wallet and accept the coin.
If you carry goods for yourself, then you need to prepare a label
As soon as the drops receive the pack, the drop service requires a label to send it to the middleman.
A label is like a postal form. That is, a piece of paper that says who it was sent from, what address it came from, who it was addressed to and to what address.
Such labels can be ordered on the forum from the relevant sellers. Typically, a karzh label costs about 5-10 bucks; if the label is white, the price can reach $500, for example, for a 70-inch plasma.
The price depends on the dimensions and the sending distance of the parcel.
The label is needed so that the dropshipper does not bother with filling out documents, paying, etc., but simply sticks this piece of paper on the parcel and takes it to the post office, where they will silently take it from him and it will go to its destination.
You can read and look at an example of a label here: https://postagemaker.com/publications/14-shipping-labels-usps
Also here: https://qwintry.com/ru/articles/qwintry-global-explained
The information in the label is always +/- the same, there are items such as:
1 – full name of the sender
2 – Sender's street
3 – City/State/Sender Zip Code
4 – recipient’s full name
5 – Recipient street
6 - Recipient City/State/Zip Code
7 – Date sent
8 – Parcel weight
9 – Delivery date
10 – Parcel track number
All this data is needed to design the label
This concludes our lecture. Put a "?" sign if you have any questions, I will answer everyone in order)
vitoscanelli 20:19
1 what does portal browser mean?
2 pay in the middle with your own money *that is, what is it?* (card, crypto?)
duster111 20:21
vitoscanelli, 1. Portable is a version of the application that can be launched directly from portable storage devices, such as USB drives. It can be run even on computers on which installation of any programs is prohibited.
2. There are those who accept crypto, but there are not many of them. You can create virtual cards, drop cards, PayPal, anything in principle, the main thing is that the intermediary accepts it from there. You can upload through exchanges on exchanges, in exchangers
Stralixxx 20:21
If the drop fails, does the service reimburse the losses?
duster111 20:21
Stralixxx, depends on the service, you need to read their FAQ or ask support
stormspecter 20:22
I wonder how things are if you do it with the EU in EU, is it easy to get the left docks, customs, and working with EU in general
Are there any examples of working on EU with intermediaries and drops?
so interested in eu-eu drop services
duster111 20:24
stormspecter, I have never done anything with USY in EU, but I think that there is nothing too complicated either. Just study the limits, restrictions, rules, etc. We have services on the forum that deliver to the EU.
pyokey 20:25
1.Rendering documents
Page with registration and documents for payment of gas to which address should I do?
2.If the store has delivery to my country, what is the best way to order?
duster111 20:26
pyokey, 1. To the address of the person to whom the account is registered
2. Now the best option: USA - KZ - RU (I gave services for bypassing various duties in lectures, buysell - on our forum, this is a person’s nickname)
Mr_Lotus 20:26
1.Why can’t a drop be asked to consolidate packs for example?
Why is a mediator more convenient in this case?
2.Can the intermediary be from the CIS or is it always a foreign company?
3. 6. When entering, indicate the left phone number or GV (you can rent a real one from services). You should not write the phone number of the agent or holder.
I don't quite understand what we're talking about. What does GW mean? And I understood correctly that when entering into a shop it is meant not to indicate the number of the intermediary who provides the address and forwards it and the holder of the CC with which the entry is going or what are we talking about?
5. In what cases is it better to use drops to send a pack (not stingily) to my location, and in what cases are they purely forwarders/intermediaries?
6. Does the drop on the fake ID take away the pack?
7. Does direct communication with the drop usually happen in TG or only through sapa?
duster111 20:32
Mr_Lotus, 1. It is possible, but we were talking about intermediaries, in this context there was a conversation) Whether or not to work with intermediaries is up to you to decide, we can only give you options
2. Maybe from the CIS
3. GV (Google Voice) is a free Internet service from Google that uses voice transmission over the VoIP protocol with the ability to connect all user phone numbers together.
Yes, you should never indicate the agent’s number; this is a red flag for the anti-fraud system. You can specify the KX address, but then you need to flood the CH number, you will talk about this in the next lectures
4. As I wrote above, the best chain now is: USA - KZ - RU (I gave services for bypassing various duties in lectures, buysell is on our forum, this is a person’s nickname)
5. Maybe by Fake id, maybe by proxy, it depends on the service and their capabilities
6. Through Sappa
Snork 20:32
I understand, of course, that sending money to yourself gives you more profit. But this is clearly a mistake; at any stage you can make a mistake. Are there any statistics on such mistakes, how often does the desire to drive the latest iPhone lead to bad consequences?
duster111 20:33
Snork, I don’t know of any cases where people were imprisoned for a duffel bag, I haven’t even heard of such things
ht_ice 20:34
1. Why do you need a housing and communal services payment invoice in the package of documents?
2. I didn’t quite understand about the reversal of the packs, already on the territory of the Russian Federation
If the pack is already somewhere along the US-RU road, and a charge arrives for the goods, will it be deployed?
Or does this relate to payment for services from an intermediary with CC?
3. For jewelry, that is, we collect conditionally 6 positions (packs) of which 2 are jewelry, which means we need to consolidate 2 packs of 3 positions, right?
4. “make sure the pickup point is close to it” what is a pickup point?
duster111 20:37
ht_ice, 1. May request an intermediary to ensure that you are the real owner of the documents
2. I didn’t have to be deployed already in the Republic of Uzbekistan. It happened that a parcel was confiscated because they didn’t like the prices)
3. Consolidation - combining into one package, anything can be there
4. Pickup - you enter the goods at the address of the card owner, after which the caller calls the courier and asks not to deliver the goods home, but to leave it at the post office (pickup point), then the drop moves out and picks up the pack.
You will talk about this in future lectures, thematic
KimJo 20:38
1. If sometimes stingy people take liquidity at 50-60%, isn’t it more profitable and faster than using drops for themselves?
2. If sending to yourself is still more profitable than through avarice, then approximately what % (hypothetically) more?
3. Although we don’t show off our documents, when we receive the parcel we PERSONALLY come and the cameras and people “remember” us. If suddenly someone later decides to contact us, it will be quite simple if the person (and these are the majority) left a mark on social networks or somewhere else? (Earlier they answered that there were no cases of clothing fraud, but we don’t just encrypt VPNs, encryption, etc.)
4. Stingy - do they work more often as drops (requires driving into the middle at the beginning) or as a middle+drop?
5. Very often I notice that they write about the purchase of rubber penises... A very popular, although not liquid, product, does it make sense to add it?)
6. What is the difference between a brown label and a white one?
duster111 20:46
KimJo, KimJo, 1. Not faster, but faster to give away to the stingy
2. By 20-30%
3. Yes, cameras are now everywhere, including in the PVZ. All adequate users are encrypted, it is clear that I meant those who do not neglect basic security methods
4. They immediately accept their drops/addresses
5. At this time, probably no longer, but if you find a shop that gives it and is stingy with this product, then of course it makes sense)
6. They can turn the parcel around during transportation and send it to a punishment warehouse; this will not happen with white
Fuerza 20:47
1. You said: “many media don’t care about your geolocation, but you still shouldn’t make the spread too big. Take your socks close.” You mean near the intended place of receiving the parcel in the Russian Federation, right? (How much variation is acceptable, within the region is acceptable?) Recommend an adequate shop sox.
2. Is it worth warming up sessions for the cdekID registry and Russian Post?
duster111 20:49
Fuerza, HotSocks, is on the forum. In fact, you can take any IP from RU (if you are from there and your account is from there), BUT I speak from experience, I logged in from different IPs to the RU account in the middle and nothing happened, I think that they don’t care at all, but I’ll warn you must
2. It’s better to buy an account, there are sellers, there will be the left data that we need
BaronLuffy 20:49
“When entering, indicate the left phone number or GV (you can rent a real one in the services)” Will the anti-fraud system swear in this case?
duster111 20:51
BaronLuffy, depends on the selected shop and its AF settings
timbuhta 20:53
We buy passport data for registration from an agent. Why might we then need rendering if we have photos/scans of the original documents? might you need to verify with your face in a video call (or with the face of a drop) or something like that?
duster111 20:54
timbuhta, services request different receipts to confirm your identity, they usually don’t ask for a video call, but they can often request other pieces of paper at your residential address, so this is
basharassad 20:57
If you ship on the middle, the pack will go from the store to the holder’s name. Do resellers accept such packs if they go to the holder’s name? and you have account on another name. Previously, they seemed to be strict about this: they accepted parcels strictly in your name and sent them as well. or are they now calm to different names?
duster111 20:58
basharassad, no, you must write a different recipient's name, not CH. Previously, then, now - the main thing is to find a shop that allows you to work like this)
Balto 20:58
when we connect to a service with a drop, do we need to look for another agent to which they will send for sending to the Russian Federation or do they already have their own agent?
duster111 20:59
Balto, you need to look for an intermediary in most cases so that the drop can be sent to it, and only then forwarded to you
Check with the support staff of the drop services you work with
ya8no 21:00
In connection with the answer about 0 cases of clogs in clothing bags - an immodest question. How many years have you been in the subject? and another question . I googled about receiving parcels by scan - they often write that you can’t do that. are they deceiving? )
duster111 21:02
ya8no, more than 5. You can receive a parcel by scan only if you meet the courier, they don’t care about it, they don’t require a passport, I haven’t met such principled ones) Someone gave it without any documents at all. If you receive it at a pick-up point, you won’t be able to receive it from a scan, right?
Mr_Lotus 21:02
Yes, you should never indicate the agent’s number; this is a red flag for the anti-fraud system.
That is, you can specify any left number with a matching geo? Should I take the number on the same SMS activator?
duster111 21:03
Mr_Lotus, now there are a lot of services that rent out real numbers, but you will talk about this in further lectures, where the options will be described to you in detail. SMS activator will no longer work)
KimJo 21:03
When indicating a non-CH name for shops (and intermediaries), should it be a random person or better yet, someone who is supposedly familiar with CH (wife/husband, son/daughter, dog, parrot)?
duster111 21:04
KimJo, you have two options here: indicate the name of the CH (for pickup/re-routing), indicate the name of the recipient, the one who will accept the documents
LENNY BELARDO 21:05
If I am in the EU and will order from other EU countries, what is the procedure then? It is not possible to use the KZ-RU combination. Should I pick up the parcels myself on the left scan of the documents or can I just send them sparingly and can’t pay anything for myself?
duster111 21:06
I haven’t worked with the EU, you need to study the rules for your country specifically, but it’s all freely available. It’s safer to send drops to EU, then from the drop you can ask to send it to some cell in the pick-up point, if you have one, and pick it up from there yourself
Mr_Lotus 21:07
If in most cases you still need to look for an intermediary to send the package to me, then is there any point in using a drop service when you send it to your location?
duster111 21:09
Mr_Lotus, yes, it makes sense, because the addresses of intermediaries are most often on the blacklists of shops and they won’t let you send them there (this does not mean that you can’t work with intermediaries, you can, you just need to look for shops for them), and the addresses of drops are not highlighted as often as the addresses of intermediaries, it will be possible to send to them from shops without any problems
ya8no 21:10
what is reroute?)
duster111 21:10
ya8no, parcel redirection. That is, it goes to CH, but during the delivery process you change the receiving point
Fuerza 21:17
What initial amount would you recommend getting from an unverified shop with CC?
duster111 21:18
Fuerza, you need to evaluate the shop, and for this you need to learn how to choose them, there will be details on this topic in the next lectures. You can drive in change up to $200-300
timbuhta 21:18
Returning to my question about rendering: why then can’t you first just register an account using some plausible data, and then, if the intermediary asks for a scan of your passport + various receipts, draw all this stuff? Or is there something like a publicly available breakdown based on the series and number of the passport, and it will be clear that the data is fictitious?
duster111 21:20
Timbuhta, that's what we do. We bought a scan of the passport, we register the intermediary’s account with this data, and then, if requested, we draw
Granularius 21:24
Are there shops now that send packs to intermediary addresses, provided that the beat and spike address are different?
duster111 21:25
Granularius, yes, they exist. There are teams who only work with this
I hope everyone liked everything, I tried to convey everything to you as clearly as possible. I was glad to see everyone at the lecture, I wish everyone well!
