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Lecturer: S1mple
[19:11:46] <S1mple> I think we’ve already done everything, let’s start then
[19:12:34] <S1mple> Pickup - This is by entering staff on the holder’s bill address. That is, his payment address is indicated in the bank. With subsequent holding of the pack in the courier or postal service department
[19:13:20] <S1mple> When the pack reaches the department, a drop with a FakeID (False ID) arrives at it and takes our pack from there (or by proxy, aka trust)
[19:14:58] <S1mple> With holding, not everything always fits, there are many nuances. The most common ones are simply crappy post offices. Los Angeles, particularly UPS, is simply teeming with them.
[19:15:54] <S1mple> There is an option to take the pack by proxy, but this is an even more slippery option. Because in this case the drop is a scam (He doesn’t know what is part of a scam and this happens most often, but there are some that aren’t) and under any unfavorable set of circumstances it can jump off.
[19:17:30] <S1mple> Modern pickup direction: Instore Pickup. There are quite a lot of shops that support this option. But for the most part these are big players. And there are appropriate security measures there. One Fake ID will not always be enough to pick up a pack. Some may require the card from which the payment was made
[19:18:16] <S1mple> Again, it’s better to make a reservation here, a fake ID is not always required, sometimes it’s possible by trust, most often they can ask for the card with which the payment was made, but you can also try to get around this if you don’t have it with you cards\I don’t carry it\it’s for online shopping, etc.
[19:18:55] <S1mple> But keep in mind that working with Instore Pickup requires some experience. Because typing into an instor is considered more fraudulent than regular shipping to a residential address
[19:20:07] <S1mple> Again, I’ll explain why this is so. In fact, there may be a store involved in fraud, and it’s not clear to whom they will give what, so the bank doesn’t really want to be held accountable for this either, so fraud here is higher, but not significantly
[19:20:07] <S1mple> it’s just that many shops here immediately understand where your fraud comes from and why
[19:21:08] <S1mple> Some of you have probably already heard of Rerut
[19:21:19] <S1mple> If anyone is interested, we’ll talk about it in questions after the lecture and tell you in more detail, because there’s nothing special there, like in a pickup truck
[19:21:48] <S1mple> You should also note another point regarding Instor pickup
[19:22:20] <S1mple> Increased fraud here is also similar to gifts. Because your shipping address contains mail. And in the instor pickup there is a department of the store (well, the store itself, maybe, for example, it’s a chain)
[19:22:53] <S1mple> But again) it’s worth saying that this is not a fraud of a critical level, not a fraud of a hundred, it will just be a little higher than usual, for example
[19:23:16] <S1mple> You can explain the questions a little deeper
[19:23:19] <S1mple> Let's move on
[19:23:45] <S1mple> A pickup truck has significantly fewer advantages over a reroute
[19:24:13] <S1mple> The advantage of pickup at the moment is that the delivery of packages for pickup is often much faster than their rerouting, which significantly increases our chances of successfully picking up drops from the pickup service. The less time the package is in transit, the less likely it is that the charge will arrive and the shop will have time to tear the package back
[19:24:57] <S1mple> And again, it will depend, of course, where you are rerouting, otherwise maybe you chose a drop at the other end of the usa) then it will take a long time, and if in the same state, it won’t be very far from the city CH, then in general there is no problem
[19:25:25] <S1mple> First of all, we decide on a pickup service. There are many services on the forum that deal with both regular pickup and instoring. Pay attention to reviews and project duration in the arena
[19:29:37] <S1mple> I work with the pickup service Swat, almost always
[19:29:53] <S1mple> not an advertisement, just immediately dismiss the question of what service I work with
[19:30:01] <S1mple> Deciding on the work format
[19:30:17] <S1mple> Pickup for stingy, or for re-sending
[19:31:45] <S1mple> Regarding the formats, decide for yourself, but working under the thumb is always safer because you are not in contact with the pack and, by and large, do not figure in any way in the process of its implementation
But most often I work with forwarding, I just like the process of receiving stuff, twirling it around, looking at it. Accordingly, it will sell for higher prices than you would simply sell it for. You can also bring something for yourself. But my packs are also whitewashed with a label, drops take out invoices and clean packs arrive at the broker, the broker has no questions accordingly and sends them without problems, also the account of the broker is made for drops, or left-handed documents (I don’t recommend doing this, but it’s possible)
[19:32:13] <S1mple> Yes, it’s stingy and in general it’s much faster if you take priority on working with them
[19:32:59] <S1mple> If you still decide to work for shipment, take into account the additional cost that you will have to pay for sending the pack to your homeland, label, and if you are unlucky - customs clearance, but I have never paid customs clearance, if you indicated you didn’t mess up the declaration, and you don’t send huge packs (by weight), customs usually stops huge packs by weight, 29-31kg and 31kg+, even if everything is clear on the scan, they may simply ask for confirmation of the cost
[19:33:23] <S1mple> All kinds of watches, branded goods, travel very well, just indicate for example Replic Watch
[19:33:40] <S1mple> Like a replica watch, etc., it’s impossible to determine whether it’s a copy or an original
[19:34:38] <S1mple> You can also see the 50/50 working method on the forum
[19:35:24] <S1mple> regarding 50 to 50
In this case, the drop service will send you every second pack for free
However, the first one will pick up, also free of charge
[19:35:24] <S1mple> That is, they sent 2 iPhones, 1 stingy - 1 for you, no payments / additional payments, etc.
[19:35:52] <S1mple> or 1 iPhone, then the second one arrives, and they send you the second one
[19:36:11] <S1mple> Regarding working methods, there is nothing more to say, everything is simple here
[19:37:08] <S1mple> If I were you, I wouldn’t look at Macs and iPhones at first, until you just try everything out and get the first packs
start with illiquid assets
Bags, equipment, sports, etc.
There are stingy people on the board who take almost everything you can think of)
[19:38:09] <S1mple> When you finally decide on the shop and method of work, consult with the pickup service support, check the current percentages. AND! Also specify which site the payment will be calculated on. It’s better to discuss everything in advance than to be counted on some no-name resource on which your product is 20 percent cheaper than the market
[19:39:55] <S1mple> Regarding the selection of SS. Focus on the city of the drop and ss so that they at least match, if they don’t match, look at the zip distance, many drop services have distance restrictions (usually 10-15-20 miles), and if, for example, CH cards and drop within a 10 mile radius, then when picking up, a compartment will be selected where the drop will be easy and close to reach
there are many sites to select zips, if necessary, I can send you one that I always use to track miles from km to drop
[19:40:28] <S1mple> Now let's relate everything sequentially, so that you have a short manual that you can simply save for yourself so as not to forget it all, theory is theory, but you need to save some information
[19:43:57] <S1mple> 1) chose a shop, selected a product
2) hammered in
3) wait for the tracking number, do not take delivery like 2 day air \ one day air, priority for us is Ground
4) wait until the pack starts moving, In transit, or you already see movements in the history, go to the caller so that he does a hold of picked up (aka hold for pickup), when in the track you see Label Created - this is simply the creation of a label, in fact the goods have not been shipped yet, we are waiting
5) when you gave the information to the caller and he made a hold - he will give you the address of the department where your pack will be located, then you add this address to the admin panel of the drop, either after the hold, when the pack is already in the department, or in advance - so that drop knew approximately when the pack would arrive, all services have different rules, see the rules
6) the drop raised the pack - then you wait for the payment, or you can write to the support the next day, if the drop is a scam and the pack was stingy - this is not your problem, the payment should be 100% for you (what was originally due, that should be paid)
[19:44:03] <S1mple> now some points
[19:47:50] <S1mple> 1) if you have a ban on holding, the shop can decide this, if the caller didn’t decide, the same UPS, he also holds, just through the shop
2) pickup is a common function that ordinary Americans use too, if the store goes into failure, tell the caller in advance, say that you have fucking neighbors who are stealing boxes, you won’t be at home to accept the pack, and you need to do a hold (like your neighbors steal packages, and the courier will leave them at your door if no one is home)
3) in addition to courier offices, they also have partners, for example, UPS has a branch of a spare parts store, I don’t remember the name, but you can also pick up parcels there, most often they deliver even better there, Access point branch. But, it happens that the UPS manager does not give you the opportunity to select a branch during a call, but sometimes he does, it’s 50/50, it depends on the ringing, sometimes the ringing presses and asks you to force the branch or just aces point
4) reroute, this is the same as for pickup, you just need to give the dialer a new shipping address, it’s better to take drops, no intermediaries are needed
5) if there is a ban on rerouting, we’ll make a pickup; if there’s a ban on pickup, we’ll come up with a story. either described above or your own
[19:49:02] <S1mple> doesn’t seem to have missed anything, but if there’s anything in the questions, it’s possible if I forgot something
[19:49:07] <S1mple> let's ask questions "?" in order
[19:49:11] <S1mple> preferably all at once which ones you have
[19:49:16] <Serpantin666> Can you immediately give me a website where you can see the distance from one zip to another?) I think everyone will save it for themselves)
[19:49:18] <S1mple> and another moment
[19:49:20] <S1mple> before I forget
[19:49:22] <S1mple> yeah, about the site
[19:49:43] <S1mple> https://www.zip-codes.com/distance_calculator.asp
[19:49:46] <S1mple> I use it
[19:49:59] <S1mple> I think it’s easy here, indicate the zip of the material, and the zip of the drop
[19:50:15] <S1mple> if the distance is for example 30-50 miles, you can take a risk, perhaps there is a department that is close
[19:50:18] <S1mple> I usually do this
[19:50:33] <S1mple> I take about 30-50 miles, and basically hold close to the drop, it will turn out to be about 10-12 miles
[19:50:50] <BaronLuffy> How much higher is the fraud with different bill/ship? Is it the same as in an instor pickup or much higher?
What dialing service do you recommend?
Do you make calls yourself using dialing services or do you use the services of a drop-dialing service?
[19:52:54] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: 1. Fraud for different messages is of course higher, and higher than Gifts or Instagram, there is a different address, and now in many shops if you open the FAQ it will be written that they do not send to the address is different from the card, and you need to register the ship address with the bank, I will show you these nuances in the online lecture
2. I call whoever I have to and who will be online, mostly easy, but if there’s a queue\busy\or it’s already time, then I call from telegram
3. dialing services
[19:54:08] <S1mple> why call services so that at the call stage drop services don’t burn your shop, who says that no one needs your shops there - this is nonsense) has already been proven more than once, I had a shop with by pickup of Rolexes, well I managed to take them out, and the funny thing is that orders are shown in the store, and as soon as the pickup was successful, absolutely all available Rolexes were in ON HOLD, which means that they were already bought by someone, coincidence)? I don’t think the shop is small enough
[19:54:21] <Fuerza> There is a question about USPS, namely about SSK boxes. Has it ever happened to you that after the sender uploaded an item there and it went through the tracking number there was silence for 5 days? Should I be worried or is this a classic for the USA ala our Russian post office?
[19:54:21] <S1mple> and of course the shop was naturally killed
[19:54:41] <S1mple> Fuerza: did not send to boxes in general
[19:55:53] <S1mple> also regarding the shop, when I made goods from there, there was nothing in it’s hold, and as soon as they picked it up, 80% of the assortment of branded watches were in reserve, 25 orders were sent there at a time, Of course they didn’t take anything away, but they just stupidly killed the shop
[19:55:59] <BaronLuffy> The shop still burns later when adding a product to the panel, what's the difference?
[19:56:36] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: the difference is that if everything went well, they will load a ton of orders there, they can kill yours too, and while they are picking up your order, you can quickly enter another one, for example
[19:56:46] <S1mple> but this is not the case with all shops, sometimes they don’t care
[19:56:50] <S1mple> depends on the store and the product in it
[19:56:55] <ya8no> thanks for the lecture!) from the flight altitude, please tell me what statistics to report and in what format (masthev / sdfgds what is desirable)
[19:57:06] <nlf> skip me I haven't typed the question yet
[19:57:11] <ya8no> got a little read )))
[19:58:16] <S1mple> ya8no: I maintain bins/banks, separately describing shops even communication, what the shop responds, how it responds, what subtleties there are, in terms of even displaying order status, then I add statistics on drop services and couriers , for example, drop service daisy, raising UPS, raising Fedex, addresses of branches that are outright redisks
[19:58:28] <Peter_Parker> 1. At the very beginning, I still have no experience in driving, would you recommend doing a reroute, a pickup, or to a drop address right away?
2. Should I call on hold and reroute from dialing services or do I do it myself?
[20:01:04] <S1mple> Peter_Parker: 1. reroute and pickup are absolutely adjacent. the only difference is in the delivery process, adapt to the pickup, try rerooting, a ban means doing a pickup, you can even try to reroot through a shop, but with an adequate legend, for example, if you sell music products, say that you have a top in the world concert, and For example, your synthesizer (which you are buying) has broken down, and you urgently need to reroot, as an option
2. I do it through dialing services
[20:01:39] <Mr_Lotus> Drop makes a pickup using a fake ID or trust on behalf of someone?
[20:02:43] <S1mple> Mr_Lotus: depends on the service, the service describes how they do it
[20:02:46] <S1mple> basically a fake ID of course
[20:02:51] <Mr_Lotus> that is, the drops need to be selected according to age, gender and other parameters?
[20:02:56] <S1mple> this is from large services and they mainly pick up liquid
[20:03:00] <S1mple> all other services are trusts
[20:03:07] <S1mple> trust is the most basic and important way to give away the pack
[20:03:15] <S1mple> the matchmakers have good trust, and the drops don’t look homeless
[20:03:20] <nlf> 1. that is, as a priority for fraud, we deliver to the address CH, but during the delivery process we try to transfer the parcel to the reroute before the drop, or, if they prohibit it, we try hold and pickup from a department of some kind. That? is everything right? 2. Which delivery method (on average) has better cross-country ability (more often it turns out, in other words): different bill ship or reroute / hold + pickup?
[20:03:52] <S1mple> nlf: 1. yes
2. The delivery method does not depend on this, hold+pickup
[20:04:33] <ya8no> do you happen to know what week there will be a lecture with a video on typing? ) to mark it in red on the calendar ahah
[20:04:48] <S1mple> ya8no: next week
[20:04:50] <S1mple> I’ll tell you now
[20:05:06] <S1mple> 7th
[20:05:42] <Mr_Lotus> S1mple: that is, if a fake ID is taken away, then you still need to select drops that fit the description of CH - gender/age and other parameters?
[20:05:58] <Mr_Lotus> well, that’s logical)
[20:06:17] <S1mple> Mr_Lotus: no, this is already done by the drop service, selecting a person using a fake ID - you simply do it for the zone of an available pickup, and not for the drop
[20:06:33] <S1mple> you do a drop when the pickup is on the way
[20:08:15] <vitoscanelli> I heard that some shops have pickup every hour
Do mediators/drops work on this principle?
[20:08:35] <vitoscanelli> conditionally*(in an hour)
[20:11:46] <BaronLuffy> Such a question, I saw in the telegram chat that a lot of cards are being dealt, literally thousands. Where does so much come from and for what purpose? Is there any point in trying to drive in from these? valid by checker
[20:12:08] <S1mple> vitoscanelli: for the first time I actually hear, if we are talking about services, then how can they pick up within 5 days, but it’s more profitable for them the faster the better
[20:12:56] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: well, to be honest, I don’t think there’s much point, I looked once, there were mostly preps, those cards that, roughly speaking, are only issued in a bank, you came and gave $200, you they gave you this temporary card, and there will be strictly $200 without replenishment, you yourself understand that the chance of having money there is extremely minimal
[20:13:12] <S1mple> there are of course prepaid bins that are really fierce, but I don’t even know them)
[20:13:36] <BaronLuffy> Tell me, for what purpose are they being distributed?
[20:13:45] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: those cards that won’t sell
[20:13:53] <S1mple> in shops, for example, you can see them for mere pennies
[20:13:56] <S1mple> 1-2-3$-5
[20:14:00] <S1mple> well, bullshit
[20:14:02] <S1mple> may have no addresses
[20:14:04] <S1mple> without any information
[20:14:12] <S1mple> there may be stupid prepaids and all sorts of other rubbish
[20:15:38] <Snork> Will you be typing into the video?
[20:15:47] <S1mple> Snork: of course)
[20:15:49] <S1mple> what else
[20:15:55] <Snork> You never know, another lecturer.)
[20:16:12] <S1mple> I will show the settings of the sphere, in the shop we will look at the rules of the shop, which no one ever looks at, and there is really important information
[20:16:17] <S1mple> I’ll show you everything
[20:16:23] <Snork> What will be the process? From buying a card?)
[20:17:55] <S1mple> Snork: I’ll just buy a card and a sock in advance
[20:17:59] <S1mple> random
[20:18:09] <S1mple> you can save the bin if it comes in, if not, we’ll buy more
[20:18:22] <S1mple> maybe I’ll grab some familiar bean
[20:18:23] <vitoscanelli> and in what format will this happen
? (very interesting)
[20:18:37] <Snork> And what about searching for a shop? Will you search like us or will you also search in advance?
[20:18:38] <S1mple> vitoscanelli: on zoom
[20:18:49] <S1mple> Snork: there’s a shop in advance
[20:19:04] <BaronLuffy> When contacting dialing services, do you need to initially write them a legend yourself or just set a goal and they will do everything themselves?
[20:19:11] <Snork> Sorry. It would be much more interesting to search from scratch.)
[20:19:31] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: it’s better to add it yourself, based on the situation, usually callers don’t like to think legends themselves) but someone thinks for themselves
[20:19:51] <S1mple> Snork: there’s just nothing special there
[20:20:31] <S1mple> it was also searched via Google
[20:20:31] <Stralixxx> Will there be a recording of the entry?
[20:27:33] <S1mple> Stralixxx: yes, of course, I’ll tell you all about this in the lecture myself
[20:28:35] <Snork> For you, experienced guys, this is of course nothing special, but for students, finding a store is also a very important part.)
[20:29:12] <wimmont> Is ~17-20$ for CC a normal price? Is it possible to test bins in this price range? Or is it better to take something cheaper/more expensive?
[20:31:03] <S1mple> Snork: there are no secrets here
[20:31:05] <S1mple> actually
[20:31:18] <S1mple> many people think that I have some secrets, but I search in the same way as in a lecture
[20:31:23] <S1mple> it’s just that in fact you can’t think of anything here other than a request
[20:31:31] <BaronLuffy> Sorry for the abundance of questions, you explain very clearly)) Do you flood your phone and email after typing in? What time? Which store do you buy cards from? I came across the following situation: In Castro, if the card is invalid, it is impossible to return it, and in Patrick, according to rumors, the quality of the mat is poor
[20:31:55] <S1mple> all the links where ala ratings of shops are all bullshit, everything is screwed up there and there’s no point in looking for such sites, if you come across a small site with ratings, okay try it, otherwise there’s no point
[20:32:21] <S1mple> wimmont: if there is a cheaper option and a good mate, then of course take it, if not, then market prices now are 20-30 sometimes 35
[20:32:40] <S1mple> but I’ll say this, almost every CC gives, then it all depends on the availability of money and your fraud
[20:32:56] <S1mple> if you do not hit from an African VPN, then placing an order is not difficult
[20:33:15] <S1mple> there is, of course, autofraud, it is triggered before the order when you have an error in the Decline, for example
[20:33:24] <S1mple> but you yourself must understand what it means you have a real problem with this
[20:33:39] <S1mple> if the sock is under the CH, for example, everywhere you go, the config inside and out, then the rest is just stupid material
[20:34:01] <S1mple> just the other day, I was putting in an item, the total was $6800, literally 10 minutes ago I received a letter with the track
[20:34:26] <S1mple> Your order has shipped! Order number
this is how you will have the subject line of your email
[20:34:29] <S1mple> if everything is ok
[20:34:30] <vitoscanelli> share where to get quality socks/proxy?
[20:34:41] <S1mple> well, it can of course change, depends on the shop, merch, but not critical
[20:34:59] <S1mple> vitoscanelli: hot socks, sometimes socks bz, faceles, and I also forgot the name, I’ll remember now, it’s on vvh
[20:35:20] <BaronLuffy> Sorry for the abundance of questions, you explain very clearly)) Do you flood your phone and email after entering? What time? Which store do you buy cards from? I came across the following situation: In Castro, if the card is invalid, it is impossible to return it, and in Patrick, according to rumors, the quality of the mat is poor
[20:35:55] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: I’m not lying if I didn’t indicate it
[20:36:15] <S1mple> Patrick was good at the opening, then I don’t know what happened, it seems the swear words and sellers haven’t changed, but the quality has dropped, I bought it a year ago, but I don’t know how it is now
[20:36:24] <Serpantin666> Can you also recommend a shop with CC?) Somehow it didn’t work out for me with Castro, 5 cards - 3 invalid
[20:36:55] <Serpantin666> Invalid even on their checker, the card definitely didn’t go to fraud, he took nonki
[20:36:55] <S1mple> Serpantin666: in principle, I almost always buy in lari, but right now there are no updates at all from adequate sellers, autorise is still not bad, castro is also bad, prozone is not bad either
[20:37:25] <Serpantin666> The last pages of the lari shop, they say that he has become a scam..
[20:37:41] <S1mple> I don’t deny this, but at the same time there’s no point in lying down
[20:37:46] <BaronLuffy> Are you flooding your phone? And what time?
[20:38:03] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: I fluoresce the phone number if I indicate exactly CH, and then most often not always, if I know that the shop doesn’t call, for example
[20:38:06] <S1mple> they don’t send SMS
[20:38:12] <S1mple> well, about the order status for example
[20:38:22] <S1mple> this is extremely rare, and not all merch has it
[20:42:14] <BaronLuffy> When choosing a store, do you pay more attention to the merch that is there or do you pay attention to other details? Conventionally, I use a table where merch is briefly described and I always try to find those sites where the merch is the worst, is this the right approach?
[20:43:47] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: merch, what is the delivery, I read the shop rules
[20:46:31] <S1mple> If there are no more questions, then let’s finish, if suddenly something appears in the process, you can ask in a PM or at a lecture on online Gifts
[20:47:17] <S1mple> Happy holidays to everyone and have a nice evening!
[19:11:46] <S1mple> I think we’ve already done everything, let’s start then
[19:12:34] <S1mple> Pickup - This is by entering staff on the holder’s bill address. That is, his payment address is indicated in the bank. With subsequent holding of the pack in the courier or postal service department
[19:13:20] <S1mple> When the pack reaches the department, a drop with a FakeID (False ID) arrives at it and takes our pack from there (or by proxy, aka trust)
[19:14:58] <S1mple> With holding, not everything always fits, there are many nuances. The most common ones are simply crappy post offices. Los Angeles, particularly UPS, is simply teeming with them.
[19:15:54] <S1mple> There is an option to take the pack by proxy, but this is an even more slippery option. Because in this case the drop is a scam (He doesn’t know what is part of a scam and this happens most often, but there are some that aren’t) and under any unfavorable set of circumstances it can jump off.
[19:17:30] <S1mple> Modern pickup direction: Instore Pickup. There are quite a lot of shops that support this option. But for the most part these are big players. And there are appropriate security measures there. One Fake ID will not always be enough to pick up a pack. Some may require the card from which the payment was made
[19:18:16] <S1mple> Again, it’s better to make a reservation here, a fake ID is not always required, sometimes it’s possible by trust, most often they can ask for the card with which the payment was made, but you can also try to get around this if you don’t have it with you cards\I don’t carry it\it’s for online shopping, etc.
[19:18:55] <S1mple> But keep in mind that working with Instore Pickup requires some experience. Because typing into an instor is considered more fraudulent than regular shipping to a residential address
[19:20:07] <S1mple> Again, I’ll explain why this is so. In fact, there may be a store involved in fraud, and it’s not clear to whom they will give what, so the bank doesn’t really want to be held accountable for this either, so fraud here is higher, but not significantly
[19:20:07] <S1mple> it’s just that many shops here immediately understand where your fraud comes from and why
[19:21:08] <S1mple> Some of you have probably already heard of Rerut
[19:21:19] <S1mple> If anyone is interested, we’ll talk about it in questions after the lecture and tell you in more detail, because there’s nothing special there, like in a pickup truck
[19:21:48] <S1mple> You should also note another point regarding Instor pickup
[19:22:20] <S1mple> Increased fraud here is also similar to gifts. Because your shipping address contains mail. And in the instor pickup there is a department of the store (well, the store itself, maybe, for example, it’s a chain)
[19:22:53] <S1mple> But again) it’s worth saying that this is not a fraud of a critical level, not a fraud of a hundred, it will just be a little higher than usual, for example
[19:23:16] <S1mple> You can explain the questions a little deeper
[19:23:19] <S1mple> Let's move on
[19:23:45] <S1mple> A pickup truck has significantly fewer advantages over a reroute
[19:24:13] <S1mple> The advantage of pickup at the moment is that the delivery of packages for pickup is often much faster than their rerouting, which significantly increases our chances of successfully picking up drops from the pickup service. The less time the package is in transit, the less likely it is that the charge will arrive and the shop will have time to tear the package back
[19:24:57] <S1mple> And again, it will depend, of course, where you are rerouting, otherwise maybe you chose a drop at the other end of the usa) then it will take a long time, and if in the same state, it won’t be very far from the city CH, then in general there is no problem
[19:25:25] <S1mple> First of all, we decide on a pickup service. There are many services on the forum that deal with both regular pickup and instoring. Pay attention to reviews and project duration in the arena
[19:29:37] <S1mple> I work with the pickup service Swat, almost always
[19:29:53] <S1mple> not an advertisement, just immediately dismiss the question of what service I work with
[19:30:01] <S1mple> Deciding on the work format
[19:30:17] <S1mple> Pickup for stingy, or for re-sending
[19:31:45] <S1mple> Regarding the formats, decide for yourself, but working under the thumb is always safer because you are not in contact with the pack and, by and large, do not figure in any way in the process of its implementation
But most often I work with forwarding, I just like the process of receiving stuff, twirling it around, looking at it. Accordingly, it will sell for higher prices than you would simply sell it for. You can also bring something for yourself. But my packs are also whitewashed with a label, drops take out invoices and clean packs arrive at the broker, the broker has no questions accordingly and sends them without problems, also the account of the broker is made for drops, or left-handed documents (I don’t recommend doing this, but it’s possible)
[19:32:13] <S1mple> Yes, it’s stingy and in general it’s much faster if you take priority on working with them
[19:32:59] <S1mple> If you still decide to work for shipment, take into account the additional cost that you will have to pay for sending the pack to your homeland, label, and if you are unlucky - customs clearance, but I have never paid customs clearance, if you indicated you didn’t mess up the declaration, and you don’t send huge packs (by weight), customs usually stops huge packs by weight, 29-31kg and 31kg+, even if everything is clear on the scan, they may simply ask for confirmation of the cost
[19:33:23] <S1mple> All kinds of watches, branded goods, travel very well, just indicate for example Replic Watch
[19:33:40] <S1mple> Like a replica watch, etc., it’s impossible to determine whether it’s a copy or an original
[19:34:38] <S1mple> You can also see the 50/50 working method on the forum
[19:35:24] <S1mple> regarding 50 to 50
In this case, the drop service will send you every second pack for free
However, the first one will pick up, also free of charge
[19:35:24] <S1mple> That is, they sent 2 iPhones, 1 stingy - 1 for you, no payments / additional payments, etc.
[19:35:52] <S1mple> or 1 iPhone, then the second one arrives, and they send you the second one
[19:36:11] <S1mple> Regarding working methods, there is nothing more to say, everything is simple here
[19:37:08] <S1mple> If I were you, I wouldn’t look at Macs and iPhones at first, until you just try everything out and get the first packs
start with illiquid assets
Bags, equipment, sports, etc.
There are stingy people on the board who take almost everything you can think of)
[19:38:09] <S1mple> When you finally decide on the shop and method of work, consult with the pickup service support, check the current percentages. AND! Also specify which site the payment will be calculated on. It’s better to discuss everything in advance than to be counted on some no-name resource on which your product is 20 percent cheaper than the market
[19:39:55] <S1mple> Regarding the selection of SS. Focus on the city of the drop and ss so that they at least match, if they don’t match, look at the zip distance, many drop services have distance restrictions (usually 10-15-20 miles), and if, for example, CH cards and drop within a 10 mile radius, then when picking up, a compartment will be selected where the drop will be easy and close to reach
there are many sites to select zips, if necessary, I can send you one that I always use to track miles from km to drop
[19:40:28] <S1mple> Now let's relate everything sequentially, so that you have a short manual that you can simply save for yourself so as not to forget it all, theory is theory, but you need to save some information
[19:43:57] <S1mple> 1) chose a shop, selected a product
2) hammered in
3) wait for the tracking number, do not take delivery like 2 day air \ one day air, priority for us is Ground
4) wait until the pack starts moving, In transit, or you already see movements in the history, go to the caller so that he does a hold of picked up (aka hold for pickup), when in the track you see Label Created - this is simply the creation of a label, in fact the goods have not been shipped yet, we are waiting
5) when you gave the information to the caller and he made a hold - he will give you the address of the department where your pack will be located, then you add this address to the admin panel of the drop, either after the hold, when the pack is already in the department, or in advance - so that drop knew approximately when the pack would arrive, all services have different rules, see the rules
6) the drop raised the pack - then you wait for the payment, or you can write to the support the next day, if the drop is a scam and the pack was stingy - this is not your problem, the payment should be 100% for you (what was originally due, that should be paid)
[19:44:03] <S1mple> now some points
[19:47:50] <S1mple> 1) if you have a ban on holding, the shop can decide this, if the caller didn’t decide, the same UPS, he also holds, just through the shop
2) pickup is a common function that ordinary Americans use too, if the store goes into failure, tell the caller in advance, say that you have fucking neighbors who are stealing boxes, you won’t be at home to accept the pack, and you need to do a hold (like your neighbors steal packages, and the courier will leave them at your door if no one is home)
3) in addition to courier offices, they also have partners, for example, UPS has a branch of a spare parts store, I don’t remember the name, but you can also pick up parcels there, most often they deliver even better there, Access point branch. But, it happens that the UPS manager does not give you the opportunity to select a branch during a call, but sometimes he does, it’s 50/50, it depends on the ringing, sometimes the ringing presses and asks you to force the branch or just aces point
4) reroute, this is the same as for pickup, you just need to give the dialer a new shipping address, it’s better to take drops, no intermediaries are needed
5) if there is a ban on rerouting, we’ll make a pickup; if there’s a ban on pickup, we’ll come up with a story. either described above or your own
[19:49:02] <S1mple> doesn’t seem to have missed anything, but if there’s anything in the questions, it’s possible if I forgot something
[19:49:07] <S1mple> let's ask questions "?" in order
[19:49:11] <S1mple> preferably all at once which ones you have
[19:49:16] <Serpantin666> Can you immediately give me a website where you can see the distance from one zip to another?) I think everyone will save it for themselves)
[19:49:18] <S1mple> and another moment
[19:49:20] <S1mple> before I forget
[19:49:22] <S1mple> yeah, about the site
[19:49:43] <S1mple> https://www.zip-codes.com/distance_calculator.asp
[19:49:46] <S1mple> I use it
[19:49:59] <S1mple> I think it’s easy here, indicate the zip of the material, and the zip of the drop
[19:50:15] <S1mple> if the distance is for example 30-50 miles, you can take a risk, perhaps there is a department that is close
[19:50:18] <S1mple> I usually do this
[19:50:33] <S1mple> I take about 30-50 miles, and basically hold close to the drop, it will turn out to be about 10-12 miles
[19:50:50] <BaronLuffy> How much higher is the fraud with different bill/ship? Is it the same as in an instor pickup or much higher?
What dialing service do you recommend?
Do you make calls yourself using dialing services or do you use the services of a drop-dialing service?
[19:52:54] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: 1. Fraud for different messages is of course higher, and higher than Gifts or Instagram, there is a different address, and now in many shops if you open the FAQ it will be written that they do not send to the address is different from the card, and you need to register the ship address with the bank, I will show you these nuances in the online lecture
2. I call whoever I have to and who will be online, mostly easy, but if there’s a queue\busy\or it’s already time, then I call from telegram
3. dialing services
[19:54:08] <S1mple> why call services so that at the call stage drop services don’t burn your shop, who says that no one needs your shops there - this is nonsense) has already been proven more than once, I had a shop with by pickup of Rolexes, well I managed to take them out, and the funny thing is that orders are shown in the store, and as soon as the pickup was successful, absolutely all available Rolexes were in ON HOLD, which means that they were already bought by someone, coincidence)? I don’t think the shop is small enough
[19:54:21] <Fuerza> There is a question about USPS, namely about SSK boxes. Has it ever happened to you that after the sender uploaded an item there and it went through the tracking number there was silence for 5 days? Should I be worried or is this a classic for the USA ala our Russian post office?
[19:54:21] <S1mple> and of course the shop was naturally killed
[19:54:41] <S1mple> Fuerza: did not send to boxes in general
[19:55:53] <S1mple> also regarding the shop, when I made goods from there, there was nothing in it’s hold, and as soon as they picked it up, 80% of the assortment of branded watches were in reserve, 25 orders were sent there at a time, Of course they didn’t take anything away, but they just stupidly killed the shop
[19:55:59] <BaronLuffy> The shop still burns later when adding a product to the panel, what's the difference?
[19:56:36] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: the difference is that if everything went well, they will load a ton of orders there, they can kill yours too, and while they are picking up your order, you can quickly enter another one, for example
[19:56:46] <S1mple> but this is not the case with all shops, sometimes they don’t care
[19:56:50] <S1mple> depends on the store and the product in it
[19:56:55] <ya8no> thanks for the lecture!) from the flight altitude, please tell me what statistics to report and in what format (masthev / sdfgds what is desirable)
[19:57:06] <nlf> skip me I haven't typed the question yet
[19:57:11] <ya8no> got a little read )))
[19:58:16] <S1mple> ya8no: I maintain bins/banks, separately describing shops even communication, what the shop responds, how it responds, what subtleties there are, in terms of even displaying order status, then I add statistics on drop services and couriers , for example, drop service daisy, raising UPS, raising Fedex, addresses of branches that are outright redisks
[19:58:28] <Peter_Parker> 1. At the very beginning, I still have no experience in driving, would you recommend doing a reroute, a pickup, or to a drop address right away?
2. Should I call on hold and reroute from dialing services or do I do it myself?
[20:01:04] <S1mple> Peter_Parker: 1. reroute and pickup are absolutely adjacent. the only difference is in the delivery process, adapt to the pickup, try rerooting, a ban means doing a pickup, you can even try to reroot through a shop, but with an adequate legend, for example, if you sell music products, say that you have a top in the world concert, and For example, your synthesizer (which you are buying) has broken down, and you urgently need to reroot, as an option
2. I do it through dialing services
[20:01:39] <Mr_Lotus> Drop makes a pickup using a fake ID or trust on behalf of someone?
[20:02:43] <S1mple> Mr_Lotus: depends on the service, the service describes how they do it
[20:02:46] <S1mple> basically a fake ID of course
[20:02:51] <Mr_Lotus> that is, the drops need to be selected according to age, gender and other parameters?
[20:02:56] <S1mple> this is from large services and they mainly pick up liquid
[20:03:00] <S1mple> all other services are trusts
[20:03:07] <S1mple> trust is the most basic and important way to give away the pack
[20:03:15] <S1mple> the matchmakers have good trust, and the drops don’t look homeless
[20:03:20] <nlf> 1. that is, as a priority for fraud, we deliver to the address CH, but during the delivery process we try to transfer the parcel to the reroute before the drop, or, if they prohibit it, we try hold and pickup from a department of some kind. That? is everything right? 2. Which delivery method (on average) has better cross-country ability (more often it turns out, in other words): different bill ship or reroute / hold + pickup?
[20:03:52] <S1mple> nlf: 1. yes
2. The delivery method does not depend on this, hold+pickup
[20:04:33] <ya8no> do you happen to know what week there will be a lecture with a video on typing? ) to mark it in red on the calendar ahah
[20:04:48] <S1mple> ya8no: next week
[20:04:50] <S1mple> I’ll tell you now
[20:05:06] <S1mple> 7th
[20:05:42] <Mr_Lotus> S1mple: that is, if a fake ID is taken away, then you still need to select drops that fit the description of CH - gender/age and other parameters?
[20:05:58] <Mr_Lotus> well, that’s logical)
[20:06:17] <S1mple> Mr_Lotus: no, this is already done by the drop service, selecting a person using a fake ID - you simply do it for the zone of an available pickup, and not for the drop
[20:06:33] <S1mple> you do a drop when the pickup is on the way
[20:08:15] <vitoscanelli> I heard that some shops have pickup every hour
Do mediators/drops work on this principle?
[20:08:35] <vitoscanelli> conditionally*(in an hour)
[20:11:46] <BaronLuffy> Such a question, I saw in the telegram chat that a lot of cards are being dealt, literally thousands. Where does so much come from and for what purpose? Is there any point in trying to drive in from these? valid by checker
[20:12:08] <S1mple> vitoscanelli: for the first time I actually hear, if we are talking about services, then how can they pick up within 5 days, but it’s more profitable for them the faster the better
[20:12:56] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: well, to be honest, I don’t think there’s much point, I looked once, there were mostly preps, those cards that, roughly speaking, are only issued in a bank, you came and gave $200, you they gave you this temporary card, and there will be strictly $200 without replenishment, you yourself understand that the chance of having money there is extremely minimal
[20:13:12] <S1mple> there are of course prepaid bins that are really fierce, but I don’t even know them)
[20:13:36] <BaronLuffy> Tell me, for what purpose are they being distributed?
[20:13:45] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: those cards that won’t sell
[20:13:53] <S1mple> in shops, for example, you can see them for mere pennies
[20:13:56] <S1mple> 1-2-3$-5
[20:14:00] <S1mple> well, bullshit
[20:14:02] <S1mple> may have no addresses
[20:14:04] <S1mple> without any information
[20:14:12] <S1mple> there may be stupid prepaids and all sorts of other rubbish
[20:15:38] <Snork> Will you be typing into the video?
[20:15:47] <S1mple> Snork: of course)
[20:15:49] <S1mple> what else
[20:15:55] <Snork> You never know, another lecturer.)
[20:16:12] <S1mple> I will show the settings of the sphere, in the shop we will look at the rules of the shop, which no one ever looks at, and there is really important information
[20:16:17] <S1mple> I’ll show you everything
[20:16:23] <Snork> What will be the process? From buying a card?)
[20:17:55] <S1mple> Snork: I’ll just buy a card and a sock in advance
[20:17:59] <S1mple> random
[20:18:09] <S1mple> you can save the bin if it comes in, if not, we’ll buy more
[20:18:22] <S1mple> maybe I’ll grab some familiar bean
[20:18:23] <vitoscanelli> and in what format will this happen
? (very interesting)[20:18:37] <Snork> And what about searching for a shop? Will you search like us or will you also search in advance?
[20:18:38] <S1mple> vitoscanelli: on zoom
[20:18:49] <S1mple> Snork: there’s a shop in advance
[20:19:04] <BaronLuffy> When contacting dialing services, do you need to initially write them a legend yourself or just set a goal and they will do everything themselves?
[20:19:11] <Snork> Sorry. It would be much more interesting to search from scratch.)
[20:19:31] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: it’s better to add it yourself, based on the situation, usually callers don’t like to think legends themselves) but someone thinks for themselves
[20:19:51] <S1mple> Snork: there’s just nothing special there
[20:20:31] <S1mple> it was also searched via Google
[20:20:31] <Stralixxx> Will there be a recording of the entry?
[20:27:33] <S1mple> Stralixxx: yes, of course, I’ll tell you all about this in the lecture myself
[20:28:35] <Snork> For you, experienced guys, this is of course nothing special, but for students, finding a store is also a very important part.)
[20:29:12] <wimmont> Is ~17-20$ for CC a normal price? Is it possible to test bins in this price range? Or is it better to take something cheaper/more expensive?
[20:31:03] <S1mple> Snork: there are no secrets here
[20:31:05] <S1mple> actually
[20:31:18] <S1mple> many people think that I have some secrets, but I search in the same way as in a lecture
[20:31:23] <S1mple> it’s just that in fact you can’t think of anything here other than a request
[20:31:31] <BaronLuffy> Sorry for the abundance of questions, you explain very clearly)) Do you flood your phone and email after typing in? What time? Which store do you buy cards from? I came across the following situation: In Castro, if the card is invalid, it is impossible to return it, and in Patrick, according to rumors, the quality of the mat is poor
[20:31:55] <S1mple> all the links where ala ratings of shops are all bullshit, everything is screwed up there and there’s no point in looking for such sites, if you come across a small site with ratings, okay try it, otherwise there’s no point
[20:32:21] <S1mple> wimmont: if there is a cheaper option and a good mate, then of course take it, if not, then market prices now are 20-30 sometimes 35
[20:32:40] <S1mple> but I’ll say this, almost every CC gives, then it all depends on the availability of money and your fraud
[20:32:56] <S1mple> if you do not hit from an African VPN, then placing an order is not difficult
[20:33:15] <S1mple> there is, of course, autofraud, it is triggered before the order when you have an error in the Decline, for example
[20:33:24] <S1mple> but you yourself must understand what it means you have a real problem with this
[20:33:39] <S1mple> if the sock is under the CH, for example, everywhere you go, the config inside and out, then the rest is just stupid material
[20:34:01] <S1mple> just the other day, I was putting in an item, the total was $6800, literally 10 minutes ago I received a letter with the track
[20:34:26] <S1mple> Your order has shipped! Order number
this is how you will have the subject line of your email
[20:34:29] <S1mple> if everything is ok
[20:34:30] <vitoscanelli> share where to get quality socks/proxy?
[20:34:41] <S1mple> well, it can of course change, depends on the shop, merch, but not critical
[20:34:59] <S1mple> vitoscanelli: hot socks, sometimes socks bz, faceles, and I also forgot the name, I’ll remember now, it’s on vvh
[20:35:20] <BaronLuffy> Sorry for the abundance of questions, you explain very clearly)) Do you flood your phone and email after entering? What time? Which store do you buy cards from? I came across the following situation: In Castro, if the card is invalid, it is impossible to return it, and in Patrick, according to rumors, the quality of the mat is poor
[20:35:55] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: I’m not lying if I didn’t indicate it
[20:36:15] <S1mple> Patrick was good at the opening, then I don’t know what happened, it seems the swear words and sellers haven’t changed, but the quality has dropped, I bought it a year ago, but I don’t know how it is now
[20:36:24] <Serpantin666> Can you also recommend a shop with CC?) Somehow it didn’t work out for me with Castro, 5 cards - 3 invalid
[20:36:55] <Serpantin666> Invalid even on their checker, the card definitely didn’t go to fraud, he took nonki
[20:36:55] <S1mple> Serpantin666: in principle, I almost always buy in lari, but right now there are no updates at all from adequate sellers, autorise is still not bad, castro is also bad, prozone is not bad either
[20:37:25] <Serpantin666> The last pages of the lari shop, they say that he has become a scam..
[20:37:41] <S1mple> I don’t deny this, but at the same time there’s no point in lying down
[20:37:46] <BaronLuffy> Are you flooding your phone? And what time?
[20:38:03] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: I fluoresce the phone number if I indicate exactly CH, and then most often not always, if I know that the shop doesn’t call, for example
[20:38:06] <S1mple> they don’t send SMS
[20:38:12] <S1mple> well, about the order status for example
[20:38:22] <S1mple> this is extremely rare, and not all merch has it
[20:42:14] <BaronLuffy> When choosing a store, do you pay more attention to the merch that is there or do you pay attention to other details? Conventionally, I use a table where merch is briefly described and I always try to find those sites where the merch is the worst, is this the right approach?
[20:43:47] <S1mple> BaronLuffy: merch, what is the delivery, I read the shop rules
[20:46:31] <S1mple> If there are no more questions, then let’s finish, if suddenly something appears in the process, you can ask in a PM or at a lecture on online Gifts
[20:47:17] <S1mple> Happy holidays to everyone and have a nice evening!
