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The third part of "The Carder's Way", today we discuss drop-services for stuff, buyers, drops, Intermediary for receiving goods (middleman).
Before entering your first (and maybe not the first) packs, you need to immediately understand what to do with them in case of a successful attempt!
Globally, we have three options for selling the entered goods
Let's go through each of the options:
Sending goods to your country.
In order for the treasured goods to end up in your country, you need to use the services of an Intermediary for receiving goods.
Intermediary is a white office with physical addresses in the USA and other countries, whose earnings consist of delivering goods from the USA (mainly) to the countries needed by the client.
Since the intermediary is a white office, we (carders) need to disguise ourselves if we want to see our pack. How to do this? - I'll tell you.
First of all, you need to register a personal account with the Intermediary for stuff.
To do this, we create a separate profile in the antidetect browser.
What is this?
Antidetect browsers are specialized software products designed to hide the true data about the user's device on the Internet, thereby preventing tracking of his actions. Antidetect browser allows you to replace the data that the user's browser transmits to the site server. With the help of antidetect browser, the user can hide his real browser fingerprint and create a unique, modified fingerprint that cannot be used to identify the user.
Be sure to select a Proxy for the receiving address (if you are sending to Russia - Russian IP, if to Germany - German IP, to Poland - Polish, etc.).
You need to select a person for registration - it must be real and it must not be you! If we are talking about the most popular Intermediary in recent years among our colleagues - Polexp - then delivery must be paid for from the card of the person in whose name the personal account is registered. Accordingly, the person must be real with a valid plastic card, from which you can pay for delivery.
After registration, you will receive your address to which to send parcels (or rather a cell in a huge warehouse - later you will find out why this matters).
266 Cherry Lane, New Castle, DE 19720, USA # 29591
266 Cherry Lane - building number, street
New Castle - city
DE - state
19720 - postcode
# 29591 - your cell number.
We received the address, saved it - at this point you can close the tab with the Intermediary.
Let me remind you that in this case we are working with a white office - you can't send to it directly from the shop. If you do this, you may not receive a single pack, block your account and be very upset.
An intermediary like Polyanka knows perfectly well that some of his clients are carders, and at the first opportunity, he will not refuse to appropriate your goods to himself if he sees hints that the goods are not of white origin.
In this regard, we will need the services of a drop. Let's look into this issue in more detail.
In carding, the concept of drops is divided into two: scam and non-scam. It is easy to understand, scam - those who are scammed, they do not know that they are engaged in crime (or they know, but hide it), non-scam - those who know what they are doing, mainly these are salary drops who live a long time.
In order to send a pack profitably, logistics must accordingly be made as cheap as possible. How much do you pay for shipping only through the Intermediary (using Polyanka as an example) - see here (click).
The question arises, which drop to choose, a scam or a non-scam.
A non-scam drop can also be provided to you by a scoop service, if it has a forwarding service (like SHIP JET , for example ). Basically, prices for shipping from a salary drop start from $ 100 per pack. If we are not sending super liquid - a bit expensive.
Therefore, most likely, you will have to choose a scam drop. Such services are also presented on the forum, the cost is lower from $ 30 per pack, the services indicate the approximate date of "death" of the drop. But you should always remember that the drop is a scam - it can disappear at any time for any reason, be it the temptation of a valuable product or the drop's understanding that he is being deceived.
Do you think that the costs end there? - No. We also need a label.
USPS postal label— is a form that contains information about the contents of the parcel, as well as information about the sender and recipient. USPS labels are registered at customs for international delivery. Stores attach labels to parcels to track their location.
White labels are expensive, and we remember that we want to deliver our parcel as cheaply as possible in order to get more benefit. We
will have to take a gray label (drawn) - the price is about $10-15 per unit.
In theory, this is all the costs. And mathematics seems to be on our side, this option should be the most profitable for us! - However, do not rush to rejoice, let's also assess the risks. And I suggest doing this on a real case from my practice (not an isolated case, by the way).
Real case. A $1000 Garmin watch is entered from a brute force on a scammer drop - this is the first stage of risk, in this case luck is on my side, the drop is alive, received the parcel, ready to send. I pre-purchase a gray label - I'm taking a risk for the second time - but everything is fine here this time too. The drop sends a pack with a gray lab to my account on the Intermediary, everything is fine with the label - no reversal or hold on the branch. It would seem that the main risks are behind us, all that remains is to wait for delivery to the Intermediary, pay for his services and wait for brand new Garmins at home. But..... It turns out that there is another stage of risk. And it begins when the track says "Delivered" (delivered), but the status on the Intermediary is not updated to "delivered". How this situation develops further - look at the screenshots.
Okay, we are not proud people. We are waiting for the stated 10 days, even more - two weeks. I am writing a ticket again, since the status of the parcel on Polyana has not changed.
So what do we have? We paid for the material for the carding, we paid for the services of the fake drop, we paid for the label, we spent a month on stupid correspondence with the Polyana technical support. What is the result? - None, it's just that no one knows where our new Garmins for $ 1000 are. They were delivered somewhere, but it is not clear where. And we will never know - whether the courier who delivered them took them, whether they accidentally got lost, or were accidentally appropriated by one of the Polyana employees
I told you how to work with intermediaries - it's up to you to decide. I do not consider this logistic method of selling carved goods for myself, too many risks, for not too big a difference in money compared to other options for selling goods.
Sell the goods in the carding country.
The principle is almost the same as working with intermediaries. You will need a scam drop and a gray label. But plus you also need to find a buyer for your goods.
The risks are almost the same as with an intermediary. First - a scam drop, then the risk of passing the gray label, well, and an additional risk - possible options for cheating and non-payment (even when working with a guarantor).
But still, this option takes place in those cases when you have a customer for the goods in advance, which you can make and he is ready to pay you much higher than the buy-services. In this case, this option makes sense, in other cases - I do not consider this option for myself, as well as intermediaries
Give the goods to the drop-service for stuff or buyer.
It would seem the easiest option. You don't need to look for a scam drop, you don't need to look for a label, if the parcel has arrived (delivered), then 99% that the crypto is already in your wallet.
However, there are pitfalls here too. They lie in the choice of a scoop service.
I'll tell you a real case. As you probably already understood, I've been working with SHIP JET for a long time, when they were still called by a different name. I work, everything seems to be fine and everything suits me, they don't lose packs, they pay on time, as an old staffer they could even make an advance payment to me if the money for mat ran out. But at some point I'm sitting monitoring our forum, I come across a new scoop service - it just recently opened, paid all the fees and duties on the forum, and has already managed to collect several seemingly positive reviews. I look at his buy-list, the products that I make are on his list and the payout percentage is as much as 20% higher - I took the bait, why not earn 20% more for the same work.
I wrote to the owner, asked to register in the panel. The first thing that repels is the template script of the buy-panel, the standard miserable one, but I think okay - a new service, maybe later they will make something of their own.
It is the end of January - the worst time for clothing, a complete off-season, after the December distribution the screws have tightened and there are fewer and fewer packs. But I decide to send a couple of parcels to the new buy-service, especially in this off-season an extra 20% will definitely not hurt.
I send 2-3 parcels, wait for them to arrive. They arrived, everything is fine, I quickly receive the payment. Everything as agreed, they paid a good percentage for 2 parcels, I am happy. I even write a good review for them in the topic.
I continue sending packs, fortunately it doesn't allow much to be done in the off-season. The next pack - such a situation arises.
For those who didn't understand. The scoop asks if I really made this pack from my shop and not from eBay (*Ebay can send a dud - stones, a dildo instead of a phone, etc.). I give him the shop link, email and order number so that he can personally verify that the pack is from where it was previously indicated, and there can't be a rip-off on the part of the store, since there are more than 100 packs on the old scoop without any problems. This character writes that the pack was most likely stolen by a drop, but seems to promise to pay after he sorts out the situation.
At the same time, several more packs are on their way to him, although I am already beginning to doubt the quality of this cooperation. Problems with the 3-4th pack are a bad sign, although anything can happen.
The rest of the parcels arrive to him, and a control situation occurs.
The character's packages allegedly go to a security warehouse (although according to him they are sent by white labs), some problems with all the packages begin. It all drags on for months. Naturally, I already understand why there was 20% more)))) Out of principle and lack of funds at that time, I try to knock out payment for these packs. I receive a promise from the scoop that after a conversation with a partner they will pay in minus from their own. More than a year has passed since that moment.....do you think they paid?) Of course not.
This is where my story of working with no-name services ended.
This is where the third part of "The Carder's Way" comes to an end. I talked about three options for selling carved goods. Which one to choose is strictly your decision. For myself, I found the ideal solution - this is naturally SHIP JET.
We are approaching the final article with the practice of working out brute force, there is another related preparatory article ahead, and after it the final one. I remind you that it will be released only with sufficient activity in the previous articles. Therefore, I encourage you to comment on the article, perhaps you had some non-standard cases with buyers or forwarding services - tell us about them, for beginners this will be very useful information.
Also ask questions. After the block of articles "The Carder's Way", if there are enough questions from you - we will make articles on your questions!
Before entering your first (and maybe not the first) packs, you need to immediately understand what to do with them in case of a successful attempt!
Globally, we have three options for selling the entered goods
- Send the goods to yourself and sell them in your country
- Sell goods in the carding country
- Give the goods to the drop-service for stuff or buyer
Let's go through each of the options:
Sending goods to your country.
In order for the treasured goods to end up in your country, you need to use the services of an Intermediary for receiving goods.
Intermediary is a white office with physical addresses in the USA and other countries, whose earnings consist of delivering goods from the USA (mainly) to the countries needed by the client.
Since the intermediary is a white office, we (carders) need to disguise ourselves if we want to see our pack. How to do this? - I'll tell you.
First of all, you need to register a personal account with the Intermediary for stuff.
To do this, we create a separate profile in the antidetect browser.
What is this?
Antidetect browsers are specialized software products designed to hide the true data about the user's device on the Internet, thereby preventing tracking of his actions. Antidetect browser allows you to replace the data that the user's browser transmits to the site server. With the help of antidetect browser, the user can hide his real browser fingerprint and create a unique, modified fingerprint that cannot be used to identify the user.
Be sure to select a Proxy for the receiving address (if you are sending to Russia - Russian IP, if to Germany - German IP, to Poland - Polish, etc.).
You need to select a person for registration - it must be real and it must not be you! If we are talking about the most popular Intermediary in recent years among our colleagues - Polexp - then delivery must be paid for from the card of the person in whose name the personal account is registered. Accordingly, the person must be real with a valid plastic card, from which you can pay for delivery.
After registration, you will receive your address to which to send parcels (or rather a cell in a huge warehouse - later you will find out why this matters).
266 Cherry Lane, New Castle, DE 19720, USA # 29591
266 Cherry Lane - building number, street
New Castle - city
DE - state
19720 - postcode
# 29591 - your cell number.
We received the address, saved it - at this point you can close the tab with the Intermediary.
Let me remind you that in this case we are working with a white office - you can't send to it directly from the shop. If you do this, you may not receive a single pack, block your account and be very upset.
An intermediary like Polyanka knows perfectly well that some of his clients are carders, and at the first opportunity, he will not refuse to appropriate your goods to himself if he sees hints that the goods are not of white origin.
In this regard, we will need the services of a drop. Let's look into this issue in more detail.
In carding, the concept of drops is divided into two: scam and non-scam. It is easy to understand, scam - those who are scammed, they do not know that they are engaged in crime (or they know, but hide it), non-scam - those who know what they are doing, mainly these are salary drops who live a long time.
In order to send a pack profitably, logistics must accordingly be made as cheap as possible. How much do you pay for shipping only through the Intermediary (using Polyanka as an example) - see here (click).
The question arises, which drop to choose, a scam or a non-scam.
A non-scam drop can also be provided to you by a scoop service, if it has a forwarding service (like SHIP JET , for example ). Basically, prices for shipping from a salary drop start from $ 100 per pack. If we are not sending super liquid - a bit expensive.
Therefore, most likely, you will have to choose a scam drop. Such services are also presented on the forum, the cost is lower from $ 30 per pack, the services indicate the approximate date of "death" of the drop. But you should always remember that the drop is a scam - it can disappear at any time for any reason, be it the temptation of a valuable product or the drop's understanding that he is being deceived.
Do you think that the costs end there? - No. We also need a label.
USPS postal label— is a form that contains information about the contents of the parcel, as well as information about the sender and recipient. USPS labels are registered at customs for international delivery. Stores attach labels to parcels to track their location.
White labels are expensive, and we remember that we want to deliver our parcel as cheaply as possible in order to get more benefit. We
will have to take a gray label (drawn) - the price is about $10-15 per unit.
In theory, this is all the costs. And mathematics seems to be on our side, this option should be the most profitable for us! - However, do not rush to rejoice, let's also assess the risks. And I suggest doing this on a real case from my practice (not an isolated case, by the way).
Real case. A $1000 Garmin watch is entered from a brute force on a scammer drop - this is the first stage of risk, in this case luck is on my side, the drop is alive, received the parcel, ready to send. I pre-purchase a gray label - I'm taking a risk for the second time - but everything is fine here this time too. The drop sends a pack with a gray lab to my account on the Intermediary, everything is fine with the label - no reversal or hold on the branch. It would seem that the main risks are behind us, all that remains is to wait for delivery to the Intermediary, pay for his services and wait for brand new Garmins at home. But..... It turns out that there is another stage of risk. And it begins when the track says "Delivered" (delivered), but the status on the Intermediary is not updated to "delivered". How this situation develops further - look at the screenshots.
Okay, we are not proud people. We are waiting for the stated 10 days, even more - two weeks. I am writing a ticket again, since the status of the parcel on Polyana has not changed.
So what do we have? We paid for the material for the carding, we paid for the services of the fake drop, we paid for the label, we spent a month on stupid correspondence with the Polyana technical support. What is the result? - None, it's just that no one knows where our new Garmins for $ 1000 are. They were delivered somewhere, but it is not clear where. And we will never know - whether the courier who delivered them took them, whether they accidentally got lost, or were accidentally appropriated by one of the Polyana employees
I told you how to work with intermediaries - it's up to you to decide. I do not consider this logistic method of selling carved goods for myself, too many risks, for not too big a difference in money compared to other options for selling goods.
Sell the goods in the carding country.
The principle is almost the same as working with intermediaries. You will need a scam drop and a gray label. But plus you also need to find a buyer for your goods.
The risks are almost the same as with an intermediary. First - a scam drop, then the risk of passing the gray label, well, and an additional risk - possible options for cheating and non-payment (even when working with a guarantor).
But still, this option takes place in those cases when you have a customer for the goods in advance, which you can make and he is ready to pay you much higher than the buy-services. In this case, this option makes sense, in other cases - I do not consider this option for myself, as well as intermediaries
Give the goods to the drop-service for stuff or buyer.
It would seem the easiest option. You don't need to look for a scam drop, you don't need to look for a label, if the parcel has arrived (delivered), then 99% that the crypto is already in your wallet.
However, there are pitfalls here too. They lie in the choice of a scoop service.
I'll tell you a real case. As you probably already understood, I've been working with SHIP JET for a long time, when they were still called by a different name. I work, everything seems to be fine and everything suits me, they don't lose packs, they pay on time, as an old staffer they could even make an advance payment to me if the money for mat ran out. But at some point I'm sitting monitoring our forum, I come across a new scoop service - it just recently opened, paid all the fees and duties on the forum, and has already managed to collect several seemingly positive reviews. I look at his buy-list, the products that I make are on his list and the payout percentage is as much as 20% higher - I took the bait, why not earn 20% more for the same work.
I wrote to the owner, asked to register in the panel. The first thing that repels is the template script of the buy-panel, the standard miserable one, but I think okay - a new service, maybe later they will make something of their own.
It is the end of January - the worst time for clothing, a complete off-season, after the December distribution the screws have tightened and there are fewer and fewer packs. But I decide to send a couple of parcels to the new buy-service, especially in this off-season an extra 20% will definitely not hurt.
I send 2-3 parcels, wait for them to arrive. They arrived, everything is fine, I quickly receive the payment. Everything as agreed, they paid a good percentage for 2 parcels, I am happy. I even write a good review for them in the topic.
I continue sending packs, fortunately it doesn't allow much to be done in the off-season. The next pack - such a situation arises.
For those who didn't understand. The scoop asks if I really made this pack from my shop and not from eBay (*Ebay can send a dud - stones, a dildo instead of a phone, etc.). I give him the shop link, email and order number so that he can personally verify that the pack is from where it was previously indicated, and there can't be a rip-off on the part of the store, since there are more than 100 packs on the old scoop without any problems. This character writes that the pack was most likely stolen by a drop, but seems to promise to pay after he sorts out the situation.
At the same time, several more packs are on their way to him, although I am already beginning to doubt the quality of this cooperation. Problems with the 3-4th pack are a bad sign, although anything can happen.
The rest of the parcels arrive to him, and a control situation occurs.
The character's packages allegedly go to a security warehouse (although according to him they are sent by white labs), some problems with all the packages begin. It all drags on for months. Naturally, I already understand why there was 20% more)))) Out of principle and lack of funds at that time, I try to knock out payment for these packs. I receive a promise from the scoop that after a conversation with a partner they will pay in minus from their own. More than a year has passed since that moment.....do you think they paid?) Of course not.
This is where my story of working with no-name services ended.
This is where the third part of "The Carder's Way" comes to an end. I talked about three options for selling carved goods. Which one to choose is strictly your decision. For myself, I found the ideal solution - this is naturally SHIP JET.
We are approaching the final article with the practice of working out brute force, there is another related preparatory article ahead, and after it the final one. I remind you that it will be released only with sufficient activity in the previous articles. Therefore, I encourage you to comment on the article, perhaps you had some non-standard cases with buyers or forwarding services - tell us about them, for beginners this will be very useful information.
Also ask questions. After the block of articles "The Carder's Way", if there are enough questions from you - we will make articles on your questions!
