on another note i find that people like cpac and badb are no different from me i would be rude too probably more than half of you dudes ... because there are scammers and le and rippers trying to trick them as well.. first time i spoke to cpac he was rude it was miscomunication i sat back watched his thread and saw he really had decent work so i gave him another chance and since then he's been helpful and polite.... bad b same thing.. well actually he was never rude but he was a hard ass... he made sure wasnt trying to scam him... and le didnt take over his site they cant knowingly sell ppl's info for ppl to make $ off of they can generate some dumps that dont belong to anyone and try that way but seriously thats too much of a risk to catch one carder who swipe for 1k and make it out store... if u use vpn didnt have wmz or lr in ya name .. use different modems hell change ya nicks n icq... let vendor know u doing it b4 u do it.. and lastly use laptop only for this thing here you'll be fine. .. i do feel bad for badb and anyone who gets caught up.. karma is a mofo and just wishing bad on someone can smack you in the face.... all in all i found alot of vendors to be cool and reasonable its when u get the jerks who try to play games they buy 2 dumps off 1 dump make 3k and want to complain about the 2nd dump that didnt work .. dude u paid total of 100$ for both ?? made 3k ? only time i ever complain is if out of 10 only 1 works thats a problem ! everyone be safe ..