Materials of NLP training by R. Bandler "States of Shamanism".
The material is quite voluminous, so it is divided into six parts.
I want to greet you this morning. You must be very strange people if you signed up for a seminar with a similar title. It was a test to find out how to choose the most extraordinary from the whole mass of people around. Since I really get tired of being around people who constantly come up and ask me the same questions, for example, they say: "I want to become a business consultant" - in fact, now it is not customary to say that, you need to speak a coach; I don't know how this change made life better; but the term counselor was changed to coach, and the term consultant was changed to group coach, and so on and so forth. But whatever terms you use, there are people who are thinking about the situation related to how they are going to make money.
Yesterday I spoke with a man who wants to change the whole world. Quite a large project if you think about it. I'm trying to imagine if you can get at least a few people to change, and how long it will take. I do things on a smaller scale. I would like to give you a hint, because I am reading the brochure and I myself cannot understand what it is about, let me tell you about my plan.Over the years, people have asked me questions, because my goal is to learn to recognize things, because I started with that imitated people who were considered real magicians in the field of psychotherapy. One of the things I noticed was that even the few who were really successful had no idea what they were doing; they made beautiful descriptions that didn't make any sense. There were also people
I met a guy who is considered one of the leading authorities in Freud's psychotherapy - I'm surprised they called it that - this guy had such complex descriptions - he could describe in great detail and for at least an hour - any patient he ever accepted ; however, in his entire career - he was in his 60s when I met him - he never had a single recovered patient - at all. And he told me this - incredible for me! In fact, he could only describe how the person got worse over time. This, he believed, was a natural part of the psychotherapy process.
On the other hand, my life began in New Jersey - but I don't remember much, because I was quite young, then I moved to San Francisco and grew up in the Chinatown area, there were many very many strange people. There were healers and there were people who taught martial arts and those who treated with acupuncture - I started doing acupuncture when I was about 8 years old. But look, I didn't know it was extraordinary. There was no Kung Fu on TV, these things were not talked about - that was what everyone was doing. If something was wrong with you, you could go to the doctor and he would put you one big fucking needle - or you could go to one of their healers who made you drink something nasty and you would feel better.
One old man - he was a strange old man - did not speak English at all, his daughter was sitting at the entrance behind a small counter, you could come in and tell her that you are not feeling well - that you have the flu or a cold - or that you are sick. Sometimes you might come thinking that you have something like measles - I think I had measles once, but I'm not sure because I didn't go to the doctors. I walked in, she took just one look at me, there was a whole line of children with the same symptoms, you stick your hands through the drape curtain behind which this old man was, and he measures the Chinese pulse; the Chinese pulse is not similar to the Western one - they have 12 pulses - 6 are on the surface next to each other and 6 are deeper; moreover, they measure not only the intensity of all these pulses but also the kind, whether it is fibrous or whether it is a sharp bend, is there a downward trend. It requires a lot more sensory acuity than taking a stethoscope and checking for a heart. But, having devoted years to this occupation, the old man was such a master that he began to say something to his daughter, and then she told about all your ailments in order.
This is really impressive. True, at that age it was not impressive - because I did not know that it was supposed to impress, and the old man did it to everyone. But when I thought about it years later - I went back and found it, because now that I was 30 there were some problems. At that time, I did not have as many illnesses, but even when I was 4, he was able to determine that I had a broken collarbone. Moreover, he did it without speaking to me - only with the help of the pulses, and his daughter told me that I had a severe cough when I was little; I replied that I did not know about it. She continued when you were 4 years old, you broke your collarbone, I clearly remembered that, because my sister pushed me down the stairs. He told me about this - and some other things - that I had measles in school and I had mumps.
I remember this moment well, because the doctor kept telling me that there were no other cases of mumps in the district, and he kept asking me questions such as whether I had gone anywhere, but I really hadn't gone anywhere. I mean, I didn't go anywhere at all, but I lived in a city full of tourists; for some reason, it never occurred to the doctor that I might run into someone with mumps from another part of the world. I would say that at the time, 70% of San Francisco's economy was based on tourism - but for that doctor, it was just a myth. What I really liked was that he examined me so thoroughly that he contracted mumps himself. I was very proud of this because he was a local doctor that most people disliked.
There was another interesting guy, I was afraid of this guy. Because he was a Hindu, and there weren't many Hindus in San Francisco at that time. At least I was pretty sure he was Indian - he wore a turban but spoke very, very good English - better English than any of us. And he was a doctor - he studied Western medicine, went to medical school in San Francisco, but he also walked around the neighborhood and did business. There was one of the things that I saw him do and that even impressed me as a young man. The child had a terrible fever, from which he was all shaking, the doctor came, gave an injection, and said that now he needed to cope with the disease, the child was sweating, the mother was running and bringing him all the new cold clothes to put on; but here came this doctor - a Hindu, he examined the child from head to toe, then pulled away, sang something, threw something at him, walked around, put his hand on the child's head and started shouting something in a language that I did not understand. Suddenly the child sat down, stopped shaking - he was healthy. Cool - I thought. I was too young then, now that I looked back years later, I wish I could find this guy, although, you know, he probably went to medical school and doesn't do that anymore. He probably thought that everything worked out only because he believed then that it would be so. went to medical school and doesn't do that anymore. He probably thought that everything worked out only because he believed then that it would be so. went to medical school and doesn't do that anymore. He probably thought that everything worked out only because he believed then that it would be so. sang something, threw something at him, walked around, put his hand on the child's head and started shouting something in a language that I did not understand. Suddenly the child sat down, stopped shaking - he was healthy.
For several years I have been researching placebos (biologically neutral substances) - some of you have probably heard of them - I was amazed when I learned that all drugs are tested on placebos. We went into research, during which I learned a lot - for example, antibiotics are effective in some situations, but in others they simply do not work; there are also many examples where some people were given medicine, others similar, pacifiers, and everyone seemed to feel better. And in some cases, they gave a kind of new remedy for the disease, which in fact did not work. The people who took the placebo got better. For a long time no one could understand this - for me it is very important; I believe that it matters much more who gives you the medicine than what is inside.
Over the years, when I started doing something else besides psychotherapy - I saw there was something else in it. I have read hundreds of books by 15th century explorers such as Richard Burton, who traveled and found all these great cultures before they were touched by civilization and lived by their natural rights. I went to the area near New Orleans and found people who were doing - I don't know what to call it - Voodoo or something like that; these people practiced everything from the most exotic herbal medicine to summoning spirits. And for them it helped to cure the person.
Now I will say one thing that will be the rule for the next two days, I am not claiming that everything I say is actually true. Your own experience will need to figure this out. What I'm going to talk about is whether there is something in common between all these things and whether there are patterns. Because parts of what these people do fall into different categories. Some of these people were involved in treating people with herbs, which are considered drugs. Most of this we are forbidden to do here, and this is not our goal. We could all be arrested here. People use all these herbs because they see that some of them help to heal, others heal the soul, and still others make a person expand his consciousness. When I lived in the sixties in San Francisco, there were a lot of people there, carried away by the expansion of their consciousness. They read books by Timothy Leary; you can also name authors like Richard Alport, this ball is a barbarian guy, he talked about traveling to India and about becoming enlightened. I practically believed Timothy Leary, met with Baba Ramdas, even thought that he looked like a carefree leader, his whole life said "go there and be enlightened." He did not care about anything, he did nothing but move from place to place and give lectures. Now I see this inexplicable plus, there was something in this guy, I just didn't really like it. You know, enlightened people, I was among the Lamas - not animals, religious people - religious people seem to be lethargic. Although some of them really have energy, they look at you, and you suddenly feel like naked - but, you know, some of these yogis, you can also name authors like Richard Alport, this ball is a barbarian guy, he talked about traveling to India and about becoming enlightened. I practically believed Timothy Leary, met with Baba Ramdas, even thought that he looked like a carefree leader, his whole life said "go there and be enlightened." He did not care about anything, he did nothing but move from place to place and give lectures. Now I see this inexplicable plus, there was something in this guy, I just didn't really like it. You know, enlightened people, I was among the Lamas - not animals, religious people - religious people seem to be lethargic. Although some of them really have energy, they look at you, and you suddenly feel like naked - but, you know, some of these yogis, you can also name authors like Richard Alport, this ball is a barbarian guy, he talked about traveling to India and about becoming enlightened. I practically believed Timothy Leary, met with Baba Ramdas, even thought that he looked like a carefree leader, his whole life said "go there and be enlightened." He did not care about anything, he did nothing but move from place to place and give lectures. Now I see this inexplicable plus, there was something in this guy, I just didn't really like it. You know, enlightened people, I was among the Lamas - not animals, religious people - religious people seem to be lethargic. Although some of them really have energy, they look at you, and you suddenly feel like naked - but, you know, some of these yogis, he talked about traveling to India and about becoming enlightened. I practically believed Timothy Leary, met with Baba Ramdas, even thought that he looked like a carefree leader, his whole life said "go there and be enlightened." He did not care about anything, he did nothing but move from place to place and give lectures. Now I see this inexplicable plus, there was something in this guy, I just didn't really like it. You know, enlightened people, I was among the Lamas - not animals, religious people - religious people seem to be lethargic. Although some of them really have energy, they look at you, and you suddenly feel like naked - but, you know, some of these yogis, he talked about traveling to India and about becoming enlightened. I practically believed Timothy Leary, met with Baba Ramdas, even thought that he looked like a carefree leader, his whole life said "go there and be enlightened." He did not care about anything, he did nothing but move from place to place and give lectures. Now I see this inexplicable plus, there was something in this guy, I just didn't really like it. You know, enlightened people, I was among the Lamas - not animals, religious people - religious people seem to be lethargic. Although some of them really have energy, they look at you, and you suddenly feel like naked - but, you know, some of these yogis.
Virginia Satir brought me to this ashram outside San Francisco, and there was a guy she wanted me to meet with. I asked why I needed to see him, and she replied: "I think it will be very useful for you," and added, "you grew up in a non-religious environment." Most of the environment in which I grew up said that if you want to get something, peaceful means are useless, use a baseball bat. In addition, most of the religious leaders were constantly somewhere collecting cash. On the outskirts of San Francisco there is a place called Gleebe Memorial Church, it has a black manager who manages to get money from everyone in the city, this guy wears a $ 3000 suit,
I remember in my childhood there was a guy named Reverend Ike on television and I seemed to like him, his whole rap was in the phrase "if you feel bad, then you need some green", so God came up with money. This is a little different from being in India, where these beautiful temples are everywhere and you meet these very yogis - I met one young man, in fact, he came to an NLP seminar, it was cool
the guy, looking closely, it was clear that there is something special in him - you know, he was beaming, smiling - I just cannot imagine that the Dalai Lama would spread a smile in front of someone. But I can imagine how that guy does it, his name was simply Mr. Melow. One evening I saw him on TV with Ted Koppel, Ted and his team were playing aces, and that guy was sitting quietly, and it was impossible to tell if he was on central television or in a flower field.
On the other hand, I met Baba Ji - a man who hadn't spoken for 20 years - that was his way of reaching enlightenment. He wore a small black plaque around his neck, people would come up and ask him, "Master, we want to know the secret of life," and he wrote something on the plaques like - OK - because the blackboard was very small. Someone told me that he lived on two glasses of milk a day, that he meditated for 4 hours 3 times a day, and slept for 2 hours. I calculated all this, and it turned out that he spends 12/14 hours a day repeating "I'm hungry", "I'm so tired!" But this was his path to enlightenment.
I have found a lot of people doing different things. I have been to Indian residences in Canada and Mexico and South America and they do things that are nothing like what I would like to do. These Indians in South America pierce themselves with large hooks, tie ropes, and people swing them around these poles as if they were puppets, and the poles are 40 feet high. It looks unbearably painful, it must be so, but these people endure - the secret of pain control is that before you start, they give you something and tell you to drink! I drank a cup of this potion and was ready to be rocked on these hooks myself! Unfortunately for them, I did not have the same concentration as them - I wondered all the way to Arizona if I remember everything correctly. I thought, Shouldn't I go to a nicer place, because what these people were doing terrified me. There were people dressed in animal skins, they could suddenly start circling in front of you and shouting "AAAA-AAA"; at such moments you understand that your nerves are losing.
I have been to asylums for the mentally ill - there, I noticed that psychotherapy can be effective; I used a slightly strange approach (which, by the way, quite a few people know about), based on my theory - if a person does not perceive our reality, you just need to change reality. It's not that hard to do. If a person thinks that they are being pursued by the CIA, I would have done so that they would be pursued by the CIA. If a person thinks that evil spirits are coming to him, I would use holograms to imitate them. But there have been things that have been told to me, and I know that psychotherapy will never agree with this. As a physicist, I am not very sure about reality. Most physicists are not the kind of people who can answer a question with a confident voice!
The more we make discoveries, the more we send research ships into space, the more we understand that almost everything that was discovered earlier was incorrect, and we can safely say that all today's knowledge will become incorrect in 50-100 years. Our understanding of things - I mean, it used to be thought that there was no water anywhere except on Earth, but now they discovered that there is a frozen lake under the surface of the Moon. I think that on another planet too - the one where they are constantly trying to send something - Mars! Millions of dollars for exploration corbels one after the other - and as soon as they get close to Mars, they "bang" disappear. Very confusing - especially when you have a Hubble telescope, and you can't find it - not that it breaks - it just disappears - it ' s very difficult to explain to Congress the disappearance of the $ 354 million project. Eventually, they created what looked like a soccer ball and threw it onto the back of Mars. It didn't work, but it showed that we can reach the planet. Now we have managed to send Voyager to fly around all the planets and some moons of Jupiter, even reaching Neptune - paradoxically, but we cannot get to the nearest planet. Some people think the reason is that every time we send a ship, something on Mars that looks like a face knocks it down or something like that - saying, “Oh, a present from Earth - what is it? It looks like it is crammed with all kinds of electronics. Now we will analyze and see what it is - maybe something will come in handy. "they created what looked like a soccer ball and threw it onto the back of Mars. It didn't work, but it showed that we can reach the planet. Now we have managed to send Voyager to fly around all the planets and some moons of Jupiter, even reaching Neptune - paradoxically, but we cannot get to the nearest planet. Some people think the reason is that every time we send a ship, something on Mars that looks like a face knocks it down or something like that - saying, “Oh, a present from Earth - what is it? It looks like it is crammed with all kinds of electronics. Now we will analyze and see what it is - maybe something will come in handy. "they created what looked like a soccer ball and threw it onto the back of Mars. It didn't work, but it showed that we can reach the planet. Now we have managed to send Voyager to fly around all the planets and some moons of Jupiter, even reaching Neptune - paradoxically, but we cannot get to the nearest planet.
Now a little about the category of people talking about aliens and the like - once I brought an Indian healer - a healer from a tribe on the outskirts of Nevada, I met him in the Oasis. I rode a motorcycle and stopped in the desert, there were three or four other people with me; we were playing musical instruments in the Oasis when all of a sudden the Indians showed up and said it belonged to them. Then they said: your music is certainly good and interesting, but would you like to see something really interesting? We said: "Of course," they - "OK, eat a little of this", we - "Cool, what is this?", They - "It doesn't matter, just eat." Then we sat down, some Indians started playing flutes, others banging drums - most of us were musicians, so we also started banging drums, they smiled. The next thing I remember is that whatever it was, it started to work, the old man appeared on the hill, went down, looked at all of us and began to approach, put us on our backs and began to do strange things - to make sounds like the wind at the top of a dune. It's amazing that we didn't even know why he was doing all this, but who would find out in such a state. The old man did not hurt anyone, on the contrary, one guy had psoriasis on the skin of his hands, it was very embarrassing for him, and when we woke up the next morning, we had a terrible hangover, but his psoriasis went away, another guy had an ulcer and another - migraine. “Cool,” we thought, “maybe that old man did it,” now we had something to tell people. that we had no idea why he was doing all this, but who would find out in such a state. The old man did not hurt anyone, on the contrary, one guy had psoriasis on the skin of his hands, it was very embarrassing for him, and when we woke up the next morning, we had a terrible hangover, but his psoriasis went away, another guy had an ulcer and another - migraine. “Cool,” we thought, “maybe that old man did it,” now we had something to tell people. that we had no idea why he was doing all this, but who would find out in such a state. The old man did not hurt anyone, on the contrary, one guy had psoriasis on the skin of his hands, it was very embarrassing for him, and when we woke up the next morning, we had a terrible hangover, but his psoriasis went away , another guy had an ulcer and another - migraine. “Cool,” we thought, “maybe that old man did it,” now we had something to tell people. it was very embarrassing for him, and when we woke up the next morning, we had a terrible hangover, but his psoriasis went away, another guy had an ulcer and another - migraine.
Years later, I returned, found that Indian and took him to a mental hospital to see a guy who claimed he was cursed. He said that one gypsy put a curse on him, and I don't understand anything about gypsy curses, I've never come across this. I didn't know anything about gypsies and didn't understand this guy and his idea of gypsy curses. The psychiatrist said it was just a mental clouding, but when I explained it to the old Indian - he went to this guy with two or three friends, they danced around him, did something else and came out after about six hours (you know, they don't use fast methods). Then the Indian told me that the curse was lifted; I walked in and that guy was absolutely normal, as normal as a normal person can be. Before that, he was rather strange.