Lecture: Drops, Intermediaries

[Carding]

Lecturer: iTerry

[19:16:14] <Terry> The topic of today's lecture, drops / intermediaries.

[19:16:31] <Terry> My nickname is iTerry

[19:16:51] <Terry> We will break the lecture into two parts. In the first I will tell about intermediaries, the second part will be devoted to drops, or rather I will tell you about everything a carder needs to know about them.

[19:17:13] <Terry> Part 1 Intermediaries, otherwise they are called mail forwarders, which means transferring mail. It is clear what they are doing based on the name.

[19:17:43] <Terry> The mediator will help you deliver the package from the USA, Europe and other countries to your country of residence. Many online stores do not have international delivery, which is why we have to use intermediaries.

[19:17:54] <Terry> This is the main reason for using them.

[19:18:14] <Terry> There are, of course, other reasons that I will tell you about in today's lecture.

[19:18:33] <Terry> So, the first reason. The store does not send goods to the Russian Federation or any other CIS country. Take the same Amazon, delivery to Russia is limited by a very small amount of goods, there is no liquidation at all.

[19:18:54] <Terry> That is why we use an intermediary, pay him a certain amount of dollars, he sends the parcel to your country in a way convenient for you.

[19:19:01] <Terry> The second reason is consolidation.

[19:19:26] <Terry> Suppose you find a store that sells goods to your country, but you understand that you need to order 3 products in a week, and delivery to your country costs $ 70 in the store

[19:19:37] <Terry> At the same time, delivery to the US or the EU is free.

[19:20:07] <Terry> We order goods for an intermediary within 2 weeks, the intermediary combines these goods in one package and sends it to you. The cost of delivery from an intermediary is about $ 50; total savings are about $ 300.

[19:20:35] <Terry> This I'm talking about an adequate intermediary. Amounts always fluctuate around $ 50 depending on the weight and volume of the package.

[19:20:50] <Terry> That's actually I think the two main reasons why people use intermediaries.

[19:21:12] <Terry> Do not forget that the intermediaries were created not for us, carders, but for ordinary people who want to receive high-quality, or cheap goods from the same America.

[19:21:23] <Terry> So, let's move on to the next point, this is a search for "our" intermediary.

[19:21:35] <Terry> In the closed section on the forum there is a list of intermediaries around the world. You can familiarize yourself with it.

[19:21:52] <Terry> https://www.sendspace.com/file/dqfm4s link to download the list of intermediaries

[19:22:12] <Terry> Actually here you can find intermediaries around the world.

[19:22:27] <Terry> Decided on the country in which we will work, go to the next paragraph.

[19:22:45] <Terry> The first thing that we do? We go and look on the Internet for feedback on the work of this intermediary.

[19:23:08] <Terry> Reviews are relatively recent, those in 2015 may not correspond to reality.

[19:23:23] <Terry> I read the reviews, if, in principle, there are isolated cases of bad behavior of the intermediary, and the rest of the good reviews go to the next step.

[19:23:31] <Terry> We go to the website of the intermediary and read the FAQ

[19:23:42] <Terry> There may be fees for receiving, sending, storing parcels.

[19:23:53] <Terry> After reading the FAQ you will have very few questions about this intermediary.

[19:24:03] <Terry> The third thing to do is chat with the support team

[19:24:29] <Terry> We write to them in the mail what interests us, you can even get a trivial question, the answer to which is written in the FAQ section, you need this in order to find out how efficient the intermediary is.

[19:24:55] <Terry> Agree, if you have any problems with your parcels, you will want to get help from the intermediary whom you pay money as quickly as possible.

[19:25:10] <Terry> Also, the response speed of a support service employee will show the speed of the intermediary.

[19:25:34] <Terry> This applies to adding a delivered pack to your personal account, consolidating several products, sending speed and many other services that an intermediary can offer.

[19:25:43] <Terry> When the answer came we look at the errors in the text, the form of communication.

[19:26:01] <Terry> If you feel that you are talking in a boorish manner, the text is full of grammatical errors, we conclude that this is not a reliable intermediary, but Sharashkin cantor.

[19:26:19] <Terry> When working with such intermediaries, you will lose packages, they will try to fuck you as much as possible, if you encounter any problems they will ignore you, or they may even send you 3 funny letters.

[19:26:34] <Terry> So, the normal response time, the morning of the day after asking the question.

[19:26:48] <Terry> It's good when there is an online chat and you get a consultation within 10 minutes. You can trust such an intermediary.

[19:27:02] <Terry> I really like the work of the intermediary Parcel post. She is in EU and in the US.

[19:27:17] <Terry> What I like doesn't mean I recommend it. They, like everyone, really do not like carbox packs.

[19:27:36] <Terry> You can work with this intermediary only if the packages come to the name registered initially in the intermediary.

[19:27:44] <Terry> Parcels received in American names are also not accepted.

[19:28:03] <Terry> So we talked with the support service, read the reviews, we were satisfied with their storage and shipping conditions, then we begin to feel in the middle.

[19:28:11] <Terry> We don’t pour there a mountain of iPhones

[19:28:23] <Terry> We hit 1 phone, 1 prefix, we are waiting.

[19:28:38] <Terry> The package comes, now our main task is to send the whole thing to ourselves.

[19:28:57] <Terry> The first thing to do is order a product photo, unless of course the product is made from a verified store.

[19:29:14] <Terry> Many people drive into ebay, and instead of a phone and playstation, a brick and a jar of shit (in the literal sense) can google, shit delivery.

[19:29:33] <Terry> Shit sellers send if they burned that karzh purchase. I had one such time.

[19:29:50] <Terry> A photo usually costs $ 5, we immediately see from the photo that we got a phone and a set-top box.

[19:30:04] <Terry> Next, we send a request for consolidation and sending.

[19:30:20] <Terry> If everyone sends without problems, we mark the intermediary as good.

[19:30:38] <Terry> Next time you can send a little more stuff.

[19:30:52] <Terry> The most important thing in finding your intermediary, do not think that you are a carder. You are an ordinary person who wants to use the services of mail forwarding.

[19:31:04] <Terry> The next stage of the lecture, registration in the personal account of the intermediary.

[19:31:22] <Terry> Intermediaries are both with a personal account, and without it.

[19:31:37] <Terry> On the intermediary with a personal account, the identification of the parcel occurs according to the personal code assigned during registration.

[19:31:58] <Terry> This number is usually written in the address of the intermediary, and they require that it be in the shipping address.

[19:32:13] <Terry> This is a plus only for an intermediary, for us it is a huge minus

[19:32:36] <Terry> The plus for the intermediary is that he can quickly track whose order it is and add it to your personal account, minus for us is that the seller sees that you are sending the parcel to the address of the intermediary.

[19:32:46] <Terry> This is the first bell that you are a carder.

[19:33:09] <Terry> You can try to mislead the seller, you just have to write the word Suite in front of these numbers

[19:33:15] <Terry> Translated as office.

[19:33:28] <Terry> And our number turns into a long office number.

[19:33:51] <Terry> The intermediaries do not touch this word, and the seller cannot deny that there is such an office)

[19:33:59] <Terry> Next, the second type of intermediaries that do not require registration.

[19:34:21] <Terry> In this case, the identification of the pack occurs by the name of the surname in the shipping address, and all manipulations with the packs by the intermediary are made through communication with you by mail.

[19:34:40] <Terry> This is basically convenient. I worked somehow in Germany, there is a mediator meest, so here our communication happened exactly there.

[19:34:59] <Terry> The speed of the intermediary did not decrease from this, they also sent all the photos, track numbers and so on.

[19:35:24] <Terry> It is advisable to register an intermediary not for fictitious data, but at least for a passport scan, which you can buy on the forum.

[19:35:41] <Terry> Any intermediary can request a passport photo from you, this should not be a problem for you.

[19:36:03] <Terry> Mostly require a front page and a registration page. take care of their availability and register and send packages to intermediaries only from scans.

[19:36:14] <Terry> Also, to send packs to our country, many mediums ask for a TIN

[19:36:23] <Terry> He makes his way to the bank’s tinks website. very comfortably

[19:36:40] <Terry> Regarding the acceptance by the middlemen of the packs in the name of kh, there are very few of these now, it can take months to search, but you can try.

[19:36:53] <Terry> For such packages, it is better to use drops.

[19:37:10] <Terry> About consolidation, description of goods, additional services and filling out a declaration.

[19:37:25] <Terry> Never send expensive liquid and Deshmanian clothes together.

[19:37:39] <Terry> Your liquid laptop will reach and lie quietly, and slippers for 5 bucks will kill the account in the middle along with the laptop.

[19:37:52] <Terry> The next reason why you do not need to send everything together is a customs clearance

[19:38:11] <Terry> A pack will arrive at the customs of the Russian Federation, they will see that the laptop is expensive, they will request invoices for all goods in the pack.

[19:38:22] <Terry> I think it will be hemorrhoid to draw invoices for 5 shirts, 3 pairs of socks, toothbrushes, razors, flash drives, and a laptop.

[19:38:35] <Terry> We send liquid goods that are dear to you to a separate intermediary account.

[19:38:55] <Terry> As soon as he came to the middle, we immediately sent to the Russian Federation.

[19:39:05] <Terry> Illiquid staff can also be accumulated.

[19:39:24] <Terry> How to accumulate there for 500-600 dollars, we send to the Russian Federation.

[19:39:35] <Terry> Here are all sorts of nishtyaks, nice.

[19:39:48] <Terry> The declaration does not need to sit down and write a brand / model of socks, flash drives, etc.

[19:40:01] <Terry> We just write a flash drive, the declared value of 5 dollars

[19:40:19] <Terry> Or for example iPhone, we write the same phone, and in the end you can still attribute China.

[19:40:36] <Terry> immediately iPhone from 600 dollars turns into a phone for 30

[19:40:51] <Terry> It is desirable that the iphone be used or restored. customs officers are not stupid either.

[19:41:13] <Terry> Do not underestimate the cost of a liquid new product, brokers at customs know best how much a certain model of product costs.

[19:41:47] <Terry> So if you decide to indicate in the declaration that this is iphone 11 PRO 512 GB, then you don’t need to write him the price of 500 dollars, no one will believe you, problems will start that should be avoided.

[19:41:58] <Terry> Next, about registering in the intermediary's personal account.

[19:42:14] <Terry> Registration and visits to the intermediary are best done from the country where the package will go.

[19:42:32] <Terry> That is, Vasya Pupkin from the Russian Federation is registered, which means we go from the IP of the Russian Federation

[19:42:44] <Terry> Let's analyze the example of the meest.us intermediary

[19:42:55] <Terry> They don’t give a damn where you come from, personally checked by me.

[19:43:10] <Terry> But only the myst was checked for the possibility of entering through any country.

[19:43:25] <Terry> It is important for them that the packs are with a number, and the name matches the name of registration and delivery in ru.

[19:43:44] <Terry> As a rule, intermediaries have several addresses in the USA, almost all addresses are located in tax-free states such as New Jersey, Delaware.

[19:43:53] <Terry> Purchases shipped to this state are not taxed.

[19:44:04] <Terry> So, we go to the site in the middle, click to register.

[19:44:21] <Terry> we fill in all the data from the purchased passport scan, we write the phone number or invented, or if there are SIM cards left then the numbers from them.

[19:44:36] <Terry> We go into the account and see our address for the delivery of parcels.

[19:44:49] <Terry> He will be of this kind

[19:45:15] <Terry> First name Last name

600 Markley St.

107451

Port Reading, NJ 07064

[19:45:29] <Terry> The first line is clear, there will be a name a surname from a scan on which you registered.

[19:45:39] <Terry> the next is street line 1

[19:45:48] <Terry> This is the primary address

[19:46:04] <Terry> Next line Street line 2

[19:46:21] <Terry> These are the numbers about which I spoke long

[19:46:38] <Terry> Just add a Suite in front of them

[19:46:55] <Terry> And this is already becoming not so suspicious

[19:47:07] <Terry> Next, we see the state city and zip code, respectively.

[19:47:13] <Terry> Everything is simple here

[19:47:21] <Terry> What else do we see in the broker's office

[19:47:31] <Terry> There is a button to add an order. We press it when they sent us some stuff and gave the track number

[19:47:39] <Terry> Add this pack to the expected

[19:47:50] <Terry> This is done to speed up the processing of your package and add it to your account

[19:48:05] <Terry> In principle, everything is intuitive, especially when the package arrives. They write to you all the actions that you must do.

[19:48:20] <Terry> Now let's talk about the delivery options for your packages.

[19:48:30] <Terry> There are 3 types of delivery

[19:48:37] <Terry> By sea, air, land transport

[19:48:47] <Terry> Air is the most expensive but also the fastest

[19:49:21] <Terry> By sea, we send only heavy packages, such as disks to a car, and so on. It is possible to send goods not requiring urgent delivery. There are also goods that can be sent only by sea, for example perfume and alcohol.

[19:49:38] <Terry> Third view of ground transportation

[19:50:00] <Terry> It is usually used when shipping from a neighboring country. Faster and cheaper shipping method. Customs clearance is faster than air or sea.

[19:50:12] <Terry> Shipping cost is calculated based on the weight of your package

[19:50:22] <Terry> There are two kinds of package weight, volumetric weight and physical

[19:50:49] <Terry> And shipping cost is usually considered from more weight

[19:51:03] <Terry> Physical weight is the weight of the package when weighed

[19:51:16] <Terry> Volumetric weight depends on the size of the package and is calculated by the formula:

[19:51:42] <Terry> length (inc) x height (inc) x width (inc) / 139 = weight in pounds;

length (cm) x width (cm) x height (cm) / 5000 (some divided by 4000) = weight in kg.

[19:51:53] <Terry> You need to pay for an intermediary only with white money, or non-charge (money balance, VCC).

[19:52:08] <Terry> I don’t need to ask about paper and vsc right now, you will be told about this in future training

[19:52:17] <Terry> Sending on average from US 2-3 weeks

[19:52:34] <Terry> During this time, the charge will arrive and there have been parcels deployed already from the office in the Russian Federation.

[19:52:52] <Terry> Usually, when sending a parcel you get insurance, a completely unnecessary thing. Money and goods do not return.

[19:53:04] <Terry> Next, the package was sent to ru, successfully passed customs, now it needs to be accepted

[19:53:14] <Terry> There are 2 options for receiving packages

[19:53:23] <Terry> For a certain person, it may be you

[19:53:30] <Terry> and to any data

[19:53:43] <Terry> The first option is simple, they came showed a passport, they received a package

[19:53:56] <Terry> But we think about security

[19:54:17] <Terry> Right now they came up with a new thing, an accelerated system for receiving packages

[19:54:29] <Terry> On our forum, guys make such rooms for a fee

[19:54:47] <Terry> We order the goods for a specific person, we accept SMS in the mail and you get a pack without documents.

[19:54:56] <Terry> The second method is more expensive and safe.

[19:55:10] <Terry> Drop services accept any data (name) of the package.

[19:55:25] <Terry> In RU this service is presented by Leonxx, buysell and a couple more on the forum.

[19:55:39] <Terry> The reception costs 1k, they take it from any departments to any names.

[19:55:44] <Terry> is very convenient

[19:55:51] <Terry> If the staff is not for your personal use

[19:56:05] <Terry> Then it can be sold directly from the forwarding service on the forum, for example

[19:56:11] <Terry> if for personal then

[19:56:17] <Terry> the cost of delivery to the regions in the daytime is not more than 500 rubles

[19:56:23] <Terry> for 1500 you feel any kind of security

[19:56:35] <Terry> You can accept goods from a courier from a courier for any scan printed with your face.

[19:56:47] <Terry> In any place they phoned the brother by courier and took the pack at the entrance of the left house showing a copy of the left's passport.

[19:57:04] <Terry> About the intermediaries, now just a little bit about drops, we have a smoke and I will answer your questions.

[19:57:46] <Terry> drops are ordinary people who accept your packs. Drops are of 2 types: adjustable and non-adjustable.

[19:58:36] <Terry> Drop drops are drops that don’t know they accept the package. There is always the possibility of missing a drop with packages. Such drops are sought for example on job sites or similar offices. Usually, expensive packs are not sent to such drops. The life of such drops is 10-15 days. The cost of accepting packages by such drops is usually 20-50 bucks.

[19:59:04] <Terry> Sometimes receiving and sending is free from test drops.

[19:59:56] <Terry> Non-adjustable drops - a type of drops that clearly understand what risks they are taking. The risk of losing packs is minimized. Such drops get a good salary and a drop life of 2-3 months on average. However, they most often have slightly different work rules. You can learn more about the rules from drop services that provide drop services. The cost of admission is usually 70-100 dollars or% of the cost of the pack for a liquid staff.

[20:00:49] <Terry> Recently, drop services began to work on stingy, that is, they take a pack - they pay you your%. Different drop services have different types of goods for acceptance and, accordingly, different%. For liquid technology, Apple can give up to 55%. Driving a staf on stingy will save you from the problem of delivering goods to RU and selling them, and will help you make money much faster. However, the amount of earnings will be much lower than if you brought staf to yourself and sold in RU, this applies to the top liquid expensive stuff.

[20:01:15] <Terry> If the goods were sent stingy, from the moment the pack was sent for drop, an average week passes before payment is received. And if you send the goods in the middle and want to sell in RU - on average it will take 4-5 weeks. Here it is up to you to decide, quickly and little, or longer and longer.

[20:01:28] <Terry> As soon as drops get a pack, to send to the middle, drop service needs a label.

[20:01:48] <Terry> A label is like a mail form. That is, a piece of paper in which it is written from whom it was sent, from what address it goes, to whom it is addressed and to what address. Such labels can be ordered on the forum from the respective sellers. Typically, a cage label costs about 5-10 bucks, if the label is white, the price can reach $ 500, for example, for a 70-inch plasma.The price depends on the garabits and the range of sending the parcel.

[20:02:01] <Terry> A label is needed so that the drop driver does not bother filling out documents, paying, etc., but simply pasted this piece of paper on the parcel and took it to the post office, there he will be taken from him silently and she will go to the place destination.

[20:02:10] <Terry> An example of a label can be found here: http://prntscr.com/iekzf5

[20:02:16] <Terry> 1 - name of the sender

2 - Sender Street

3 - City / State / Sender's Index

4 - full name of the recipient

5 - Recipient Street

6 - City / State / Recipient Index

7 - Date of dispatch

8 - Parcel weight

9 - Delivery Date

10 - Track parcel number

[20:02:24] <Terry> So, we finished the lecture, who has any questions? and wait for our turn. I'll go smoke and I will answer

[20:06:17] <id666> Terry: 1. will we be provided with a list of some trusted intermediaries that we work with ourselves?

2. let's say I decided to make a parcel on a fake id, what should I do in this case if I don’t accept parcels in American names in the middle?

3. The first thing to do is to order a photo of the goods, unless of course the goods are made from a verified store. - I don’t understand who to order from? and why pay $ 5 for it? and if the photo is left?

4. There are 2 options for receiving packages. For a certain person, it can be you - then they will not put a bottle on? maybe I don’t want to do that either.

5. expedited system for receiving packages - can I link or the name of these guys?

6. will they tell us how to safely sell goods in Russia?

[20:07:53] <Terry> 1) meest parcel post. I work with them

2) fake id take drops from post offices. environments are not involved

3) To order from the middle, as he will accept the parcel so that the photo is made for $ 5

4) They will plant.

5) There is currently no access to the forum, try using the search.

6) On the forum.

[20:08:12] <xevious> 1. Is there a site that you recommend sending to Europe / Netherlands?

2. If you want to buy something, you need to register a copy, right? You cannot order packages at a different address from the cc owner due to AVS. So you should always register when purchasing with CC or am I wrong?

[20:08:45] <Terry> 1) Parcel post

2) Can be ordered from another payment service

[20:09:00] <revolvervv81> 1. In the midst, repacking the goods? Remove labels?

2. Do we fill out the declaration ourselves?

3. When driving, specify the data in the middle - is this a spike address?

4. At the forum I met the term "Salary drops", is it the same as non-movable?

5. Dropservices provide data for driving in (spike address)?

6. Dropservices can PayPal a label themselves, for a fee?

[20:10:06] <Terry> 1) Yes

2) Yes, on the site in between

3) Yes, that's right

4) yes, it is non-adjustable.

5) Yes

6) You drop them a label and they glue

[20:10:29] <artil352> 1) If (for example, from yesterday’s lesson) you quit ss and send it to the middle, does the shop expand the shop? I thought you need to send to the address kx and intercept. Can I immediately send to the medium?

2) How do you yourself accept staf if not a secret?

3) If you use the "tricks" in the Russian Federation, then you need to register an acc in the middle of their data?

4) Is it possible to accept staf on boxes that are sometimes in the shopping center

[20:11:09] <artil352> 2) In the Russian Federation

[20:11:43] <Terry> 1) With ss vryatli it will turn out in the middle. environments are used for driving from Gift and other methods. with ss better on drop

2) As described. Send yourself a bastard

3) They accept any data

4) Yes you can)

[20:11:52] <Serrwrtet> 1. At what stage do you need a drop from a shop-bought purchase to getting to RU? Does it replace drop service?

2. In what cases is there an advantage to using drop, and in which drop service?

3. And what does the “life span" of a drop mean?

[20:13:02] <Terry> 1) Drop in ru is needed to get a pack in ru from the middle

2) Drop in ru is needed for receiving from the middle, drop service buys goods and accepts it

[20:13:14] <Terry> 3) The time when he is ready to accept packs

[20:13:28] <Rarka_> 1! Regarding the label's label, the package may not reach from the drop to the middle, or how the mechanism for making such labels works /

[20:13:58] <Terry> May not reach. You can buy a white label, but in general all the cards are used and are ready to take risks.

[20:14:05] <bloomberg7> what is the point of beating directly to the middle, if many shops have the addresses of the middle in the black list? How is the difference between the label and white label?

[20:14:44] <Terry> In the middle with an ebay you can beat, which they usually do. A karzh is made with a karzh. other people's ss and others, whites are paid out of their own or without charge

[20:14:54] <stic_> 1) And how will the drop receive the label to paste it on to send to the middle? or is he just printing it? and who fills in the data of this label, in the case of white and in the case of a karz-label, and how to buy this white label?

2) what are the disadvantages of using a karz-label, how often do not they reach?

3) using this label, we ask you to send the intermediary to the registered data, well, will he already send a pack with the same name to our country? do not care for intermediaries that this is not a purchase, but a package from a private trader?

4) pulls out invoices before sending it to the medium or does it need to be immediately asked?

[20:15:43] <stic_> 5) c can you beat from different bill / spike? and everything passes? or use euro ss?

[20:16:50] <Terry> 1) You send the drop of the label, it will print it and PayPal it on the pack. You fill in the data on the website of the transport company such as UPS Fedex.

2) Cons that can not reach, rarely reaches but does happen.

3) Yes, do not care in the middle, he can not see it bought or from a private trader.

4) Yes, you have to ask

5) Yes it is possible, in ebay beat from a PayPal basically.

[20:16:59] <macpru> 1) How secure is an intermediary if you buy with brute cc .... Since a carded transaction will be reported in the future, does it affect an intermediary after the card or transaction is disputed ?

2) I have had issue of shopping where the tracking was canceled online because it was disputed but had left already and tracking info could show but I got my package .. do you advice this type of transaction to intermediary or drop since no evidence only trust .

3) To Register with intermidiary ,, we have to register as an office you meant?

[20:19:29] <Terry> macpru: 1) the Intermediary does not see payment information. Can only then come charge from the store, or the cops.

2) I didn't understand anything

3) register As an individual. For purchases, we use the office number instead of the cell number.

[20:19:53] <BruseLee> 1) how safe is it to receive parcels to boxes in the shopping center?

2) regarding payment with white money, it turns out you need a left paypal not in your name, on which you will need to throw money in advance? or how, didn’t quite understand how to pay with white money without lighting up my data?

[20:20:49] <Terry> 1) Yes, IMHO is quite safe. It’s safe to work at the plant, and here everything needs to be calculated.

2) Yes, you can, you can buy vcc for 60 percent. Vcc will tell you what it is in the future. type of card

[20:20:55] <Necrolyt> at what stage can they deploy the parcel if they hit a drop in the store? If she's on her way, can she be deployed?

[20:21:01] <Terry> yes

[20:21:06] <Terry> how the drop will accept

[20:21:10] <Terry> so security

[20:22:12] <Terry> Dachshund gentlemen, thank you all for your presence. I feel not very important. write who will have questions in PM on the forum to me. Good luck in further training, see you at the last lecture

 

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Carding Education 2021
Lecture - Drops intermediaries

Lecturer: isildurrr

[19:12:09] I think everyone who wanted to - has already approached

[19:12:16] Let's start

[19:12:22] All Shalom Aleichem, colleagues

[19:12:39] My nickname on the forum is Isildurr

[19:12:46] Today's topic is Drops and Intermediaries.

[19:12:53] The lecture will be divided into two parts. The first is about intermediaries and everything you need to know about them, the second is about Drops and how they are useful for us

[19:13:23] Mail forwarding company is a logistics company that delivers goods from one country to another. It is used in 2 cases: when the shop does not have international delivery, the Intermediary will help you deliver the package from the USA, Europe and other countries to your country of residence. Many online stores do not have international delivery, which is why we have to use intermediaries and when you just want to consolidate packs. Actually, these are the two main reasons why people use intermediaries.

[19:14:19] So the first reason. The store does not send goods to the Russian Federation or any other CIS country. Let's take the same Amazon, delivery to Russia is limited to a very small amount of goods, there is no liquidation at all

[19:14:36] That is why we use an intermediary, pay him a certain amount of dollars, he sends the parcel to your country in a convenient way.

[19:14:55] Suppose you found a store that sends goods to your country, but you understand that you need to order 3 items per week, and delivery to your country costs as much as $ 70 in the store

[19:15:08] At the same time, delivery within the US or EU is free

[19:15:33] Within 2 weeks, we order goods on the intermediary, the intermediary combines these goods into one parcel and sends them to you. The cost of delivery from an intermediary is about $ 50, and the total savings are about $ 300.

[19:16:07] Amounts always fluctuate around $ 50, depending on the weight and volume of the parcel. Mediums over 50 are already something not for us.

[19:16:26] Remember - intermediaries are made for ordinary buyers, and not for the evil cis hacker to make money from the Americans.

[19:16:34] So further, step by step - search for "your" intermediary

[19:16:51] In a closed section of the forum, there is a list of intermediaries around the world. You can familiarize yourself with it.

[19:17:05] https://www.sendspace.com/file/dqfm4s link to download the list of intermediaries

[19:17:19] How can you find “your own in the middle”? There are several stages

[19:17:35] First of all, what do we do? We go and search the Internet for feedback on the work of this intermediary

[19:18:37] Look fresh reviews, how he behaved in the middle several years ago, we are not particularly interested

[19:19:02] Sorry, the internet is a little dumb

[19:19:10] We read the reviews, if, in principle, there are isolated cases of bad behavior of the intermediary, and the rest of the reviews are good, go to the next step.

[19:19:20] Go to the intermediary's website and read the FAQ

[19:19:34] There we are interested in tariffs for receiving, sending, storing parcels

[19:19:49] After reading the FAQ, you will have very few questions about this intermediary

[19:19:55] The third and, in my opinion, the most important thing to do is to talk to support

[19:20:05] We write to them by mail what interests us, you can even have a banal question, the answer to which is written in the FAQ section, you need this in order to find out how efficient the intermediary is

[19:20:13] Agree, if you have any problems with your parcels, you want to get help as soon as possible from the intermediary to whom you are paying money

[19:20:37] Also, the response rate of the support employee will show the speed of the intermediary

[19:20:50] This concerns adding the delivered pack to your personal account, consolidation of several goods, sending speed and many other services that the intermediary can offer

[19:21:10] When the answer came, we look at the errors in the text, the form of communication

If you feel that they communicate with you in a boorish way, the text is full of grammatical errors, we conclude that this is not a reliable intermediary, but a sharashkin office or, in general, our "colleagues"

[19:21:36] When working with such intermediaries, you will lose packs, they will try to fuck you as much as possible, if any problems arise, they will ignore you, or they may even send you to 3 funny letters.

[19:22:01] So, the normal response time is the morning of the next day after asking the question

[19:22:14] It's good when there is an online chat and you get a consultation within 10 minutes. Such an intermediary can be trusted

[19:22:25] So, we talked to the support service, read the reviews, we were satisfied with their conditions for storage and shipment, then we start to feel in the middle.

[19:22:47] Next, I will tell you the stages of registering an account on an intermediary

[19:23:04] 1. Purchase of a full set of documents (passport (first page, page with registration), snls, documents for payment of utilities (gas, water, electricity). It is done in order to when you were asked for these documents, there were no problems with their rendering.

[19:23:20] 2 Prepare the system, many of them don't care about your geolocation, but still you shouldn't jerk them off too much. Take your socks close by.

[19:23:35] 3. Create a stick account for scans. Verify your account. If you want to pay from it, but my advice to you. Pay with white money, do not cut the branch you are sitting on.

[19:23:46] 4. Create an account in the middle.

[19:24:13] 5. Make a note of the delivery address given to you. It will look like this: Ivanov Ivan // Pervays street 12, - ste street - 44201, - your cell number, so in the middle it will know that the pack has come to you. New Port, Delaware, - city, state. 17256 - index.

[19:24:36] This is followed by a mid-fight check.

[19:25:02] 1. Drive in in stages. We made 1 driving in, waited for delivery, saw how he reacted in the middle.

[19:25:19] 2. Use different types of drives for different accounts. That is, for 1 acc we drive from the SS, on the second from the e-Gift, on the third from the stick, and so on. It is done in order to understand what is pleasant in the middle and what is not.

[19:25:42] 3. Avoid intermediaries requiring credit cards or money orders for payment. Personally, I prefer those who accept payment from BTS or Paypal.

[19:26:03] 4. Pay special attention to tariffs in the middle (acceptance, storage, forwarding).

[19:26:30] 5. Carefully study the rules in the middle of accepting packs. Usually they write from what they accept and what not, and what documents are required at the time of receipt.

[19:26:44] Work process

[19:26:53] We don't pour a mountain of iPhones there

[19:27:00] We drove 1 phone, 1 set-top box, we are waiting

[19:27:09] The package is coming, now our main task is to send the whole thing to ourselves

[19:27:16] The first thing to do is order a photo of the product, unless, of course, the product is made from a trusted store

[19:27:33] Many people drive into ebay, and from ebay instead of a phone and playstation a brick and a jar of shit can come (in the literal sense), you can google, shit delivery. Sellers send slag if they burned that carzh purchase.

[19:27:47] The photo usually costs $ 5, from the photo we immediately see that we have received a phone and a prefix

[19:27:57] Then we send a request for consolidation and sending

[19:28:04] If everyone sends without problems, then mark the intermediary as good

[19:28:10] Next time you can send a little more stuff.

[19:28:15] The most important thing in finding your reseller, do not think that you are a carder. You are an ordinary person who wants to use the services of the middle.

[19:28:28] This is how the work looks like

[19:28:38] Recommendations for working with the middle:

[19:28:58] 1. Do not send a million packs immediately after registering an account. Keep track for a week, preferably 2. Send 1-2 packs per week. And gradually increase the amount. The swing rule works here, as in many other topics.

[19:29:10] 2. Clearly study the rules of work in between, this will avoid losing packs

[19:29:22] 3. Start a portable browser for the accounts of the paper and in the middle, and work exclusively with it. Cookies are our everything.

[19:29:45] 4. Do not overload in the middle with expensive packs. It is better to have several accounts, and send a few to each. No normal person would buy 10 iPhones for themselves in 10 days. Remember this.

[19:29:58] 5. Do not use in the middle, for driving expensive equipment, it is better to use a drop. This way you will not kill your account in case of a charge.

[19:30:25] 6. When driving in, indicate the left phone number or GW. Do not write a phone number in the middle or in the holder.

[19:30:46] About consolidation, product description, additional services and filling out a declaration.

[19:30:52] Never send expensive liquid and deshman clothes together.

[19:31:03] Your liquid laptop will come and lie quietly, and sneakers for 5 bucks will kill your account

[19:31:36] A charge for the sneakers will come and the account will be blocked along with the laptop

[19:31:49] The next reason why you don't need to send everything together is customs clearance

[19:32:25] The pack will come to the customs of the Russian Federation, they will see that the laptop is expensive, they will request invoices for all goods in the pack.

[19:32:30] I think it will be gemorno to draw invoices for 5 T-shirts, 3 pairs of socks, toothbrushes, razor flash drives and a laptop.

[19:32:41] Liquid goods that are dear to you we send to a separate intermediary account.

[19:32:59] As soon as he came to the middle, we immediately send to the Russian Federation.

[19:33:04] You can also dig up illiquid stuff.

[19:33:16] How to accumulate there for 500-600 dollars, we send to the Russian Federation

[19:33:26] That's all sorts of nishtyaki, nice

[19:33:37] In the declaration, you do not need to look up and write the brand / model of socks, flash drives, etc.

[19:33:48] We just write a flash drive, the declared value is $ 5

[19:33:54] Or, for example, iPhone, we write the same phone number, and at the end we can also add China.

[19:34:03] immediately iPhone from $ 600 turns into a phone for 200

[19:34:55] It is desirable that the iphone be used or restored. customs officers are not stupid either

[19:35:02] Do not underestimate the cost of a liquid new product, brokers at customs know best of all how much a certain product model costs

[19:35:12] So if you decide to indicate in the declaration that this is iphone XS max 256 GB, then you don’t need to write him the price of $ 500, no one will believe you, problems that need to be avoided will begin

[19:35:30] Next, about registration in the intermediary's personal account.

[19:35:40] It is better to register and access the intermediary from the country where the parcel will go

[19:35:48] That is, Vasya Pupkin from the Russian Federation is registered, so we go from the IP address of the Russian Federation

[19:35:58] So, we go to the site in the middle, click register

[19:36:10] we fill in all the data from the purchased scan of the passport, write the phone number or invented, or if there are left SIM cards, then the numbers from them

[19:36:35] We go into the account and see our address for the delivery of parcels

[19:36:41] It's simple

[19:36:48] What else do we see in the intermediary's office

[19:37:02] There is a button to add an order. We press it when we were sent some kind of staff and given a track number

[19:37:10] Add this pack to the expected

[19:37:42] This is done to speed up the processing of your parcel and add to your personal account

[19:38:40] In principle, everything is intuitive, especially when the package arrives. All actions that you have to do are written to you

[19:38:52] Now let's talk about delivery options for your parcels

[19:40:08] There are 3 types of delivery

[19:41:03] By sea, air, land transport

[19:41:14] Air is the most expensive, but also the fastest

[19:41:22] By sea we send only heavy parcels, such as disks to the car, and so on. Possibly sending goods that do not require urgent delivery. There are also goods that can only be sent by sea, such as perfume and alcohol.

[19:41:36] Third type of ground transportation

[19:41:45] It is usually used when delivering from a neighboring country. Faster and cheaper shipping method. Customs clearance is faster than air or sea.

[19:41:58] Shipping cost is calculated based on the weight of your parcel

[19:42:09] There are two types of package weight, volumetric weight and physical

[19:42:16] And shipping costs are usually calculated from the higher weight

[19:42:24] Physical weight is the weight of the parcel when weighed

[19:42:31] Volumetric weight depends on the size of the parcel and is calculated by the formula:

[19:42:39] length (inc) x height (inc) x width (inc) / 139 = weight in pounds;

[19:42:47] length (cm) x width (cm) x height (cm) / 5000 (some divide by 4000) = weight in kg.

[19:42:59] Recommendations for sending goods to yourself:

[19:43:14] 1. Do not exceed the customs limit (for Russia) for one pack. That is, if you indicated that the stuff in the pack is more than the limit, then this month you will no longer be able to send the pack to the same name. He will stick at customs, and you will wait for a new month to go through customs. The rules are changing, check the restrictions on the customs website.

[19:44:05] 2. Be clearly aware of the indicated prices for goods, links, as well as notifications from the FSB. For example, an iPhone came to the middle, your task is to do the following: write that the goods are used, set the price 2 times lower than for a new one

[19:44:35] 3. Always underestimate the cost of goods for clothes. For example, if you send Nike sneakers for 300 bucks, write that the sneakers are NAYFAY and indicate the cost of 30-40 bucks. I always do that. The same applies to bags, pants, in general, all things. Always rolling. Because no one will bother and set a clear cost of the thing.

[19:45:05] 4. As for the watch - please open the box and send the watch separately, the box separately.

[19:47:53] 5. As for the jewelry - we write that it is jewelry. And you should not put a lot in the pack. It is better to send the chain separately, the ring separately. I recommend sending a jeweler with a bunch of clothes, there is less chance that customs will burn.

[19:48:00] 6. Send the technique in 2-3 positions in a pack. For example 1 iPhone + 1 PSP + 1 video card. No need to cram 10 positions of all goods into 1 pack. Remember that if there are 5 or more identical positions in the pack, then you will fall under a commercial batch, and then you will lose the pack. Since they will ask for invoices, account statements, etc.

[19:48:21] 7. Do not save packs in the middle, especially valuable ones. Came an iPhone / iPad / Rolex in the middle - send it right away. It's better to pay that extra $ 60 for shipping than to lose everything.

[19:50:07] 8. Pay in the middle only with your own money. NO CARAGE. Do not cut the branch you are sitting on.

[19:50:14] The parcel goes on average from US 2-3 weeks

[19:50:19] During this time, a charge will arrive and it happened that the parcels were already deployed from the branch in the Russian Federation

[19:50:40] Usually, when sending a parcel, you are sold insurance, a completely unnecessary thing. Money and goods are not returned.

[19:50:45] Next, the parcel was sent to ru, successfully passed customs, now it needs to be accepted

[19:50:51] There are 2 options for receiving parcels

[19:50:57] For a specific person, it could be you

[19:51:07] And for any data

[19:51:13] The first option is simple, they came and showed their passport, received the parcel

[19:51:18] But we think about security

[19:52:37] Right now they came up with another new thing, an accelerated system for receiving parcels

On our forum, guys make such cabinets for a certain fee

[19:52:43] We order goods for a specific person, receive SMS by mail and you will be given a pack without documents.

[19:52:53] The second method is more costly and safer

[19:53:00] Drop services are accepted for any data (full name) of the parcel

[19:53:06] This service is represented in RU by Leonxx, buysell and a couple more on the forum

[19:53:21] Reception costs 1.5k, pick up from any branch for any name.

[19:54:06] If the staff is not for your personal use

[19:54:11] Then it can be sold directly from the service posting on the forum, for example

[19:54:20] if for personal, then the cost of delivery to the regions is not more than 1k rubles

in the end, for 2,500 you feel safe

[19:54:29] what

[19:54:32] You can accept goods from the courier from the courier to any scan printed with your face.

[19:54:37] Anywhere we phoned my brother by courier and took the pack at the entrance of the left house showing a copy of the left’s passport

[19:54:44] About everything in between. Now about the drops.

[19:55:02] Drops are ordinary people who accept your packs. drops are of 2 types: adjustable and non-adjustable

[19:55:09] adjustable drops are drops that do not know that they are accepting packages. there is always a possibility of missing a drop with parcels. Such drops are searched, for example, on job sites or similar offices. Usually, expensive packs are not sent to such drops. The lifespan of such drops is 10-15 days. The cost of accepting parcels with such drops is usually 20-50 bucks

[19:55:50] Sometimes receiving and sending is free from test drops.

[19:55:57] Irreparable drops are a type of drops that clearly understand the risks they are taking. The risk of losing packs is minimized. Such drops receive a good salary and the life of the drops is on average 2-3 months. However, they often have slightly different rules of work. You can learn more about the rules from drop services that provide drop services. The cost of admission is usually $ 70-100 or% of the cost of the pack for liquid staff.

[19:56:14] Recently, drop services began to work for a stingy, that is, they accept a pack - they pay you your%. Different drop services have different types of goods for acceptance and, accordingly, different%. For liquidation, epl technology can be given up to 55%. Driving the staff to the stingy will save you from the problem of delivering goods to RU and selling it, and will help you earn much faster. However, the amount of earnings will be much lower than if you brought the staff yourself and sold it to RU, this applies to the top liquid expensive staff.

[19:56:41] If you have sent the goods to buy, from the moment the pack is sent to the drop, until the payment is received, an average week passes. And if you send goods to the middle and want to sell in RU - on average, it will take 4-5 weeks. It is up to you to decide whether it is fast and a little, or a long time and more.

[19:56:54] How to choose a drop service?

[19:57:05] The same rules apply here as when looking for an intermediary. Of course, the drop service has already been sharpened in advance for the carzh and colleagues, they are well aware that the goods will be from drives.

[19:57:15] On our forum, in a special section, there are many worthy suggestions, I will not advise anything, but the choice is large and it will not be difficult to find your own

[19:57:26] How to get started with the service and find your drop guide

[19:57:35] questions after the lecture, user80

[19:57:41] First of all, we look at all the offers, compare what is closer to us. We study the rules of each service. Prices, online, the number of drops and their geography (maybe we work in one state, for example), the presence of a panel, compensation rules

[19:57:52] The panel is a separate site that contains all the drops and you can add your purchases in the online service, track them, compare drops and so on

[19:58:04] The panel is super-convenient when you can add a product, see the drops in your state, many still keep statistics on the drop, more on that later.

[19:58:15] Next. We look at the offers, first of all, if we want to work for a gimmick for the first time (to sell a drop product for a percentage), we are looking for a list of accepted products.

[19:58:25] As a rule, large services have a list of liquid and illiquid goods.

[19:58:30] Liquid is an apple, phones, watches, laptops, pc components, etc., that is, it is a commodity that can be sold quickly, so it has a relatively good percentage.

[19:58:46] Illiquid stock is everything else, disks for cars, strollers, members and so on. The percentage here is a minimum of 15-25, but think that the fraud of a site selling strollers is much lower than that of ebay and you can simply earn consistently in volumes for bread and butter

[19:58:52] After studying, it's time to write to contacts

[19:58:58] First of all, we look at what contacts the service leaves, for example, I am an ardent hater of the toad, for me it is not operative and the last century.

[19:59:10] Here we found contacts, be polite, write in the first message what you do, how many packs per week, how you do (no details) and ask what is not clear to you in the rules , for example, if you did not find your product in the positions - do you accept it for work, if you are new, it is also better to indicate this

[19:59:22] After that, the admin will decide what to do with you and either issue a log password and access to the panel, or say that we do not work with the new regions

[19:59:35] After hitting the panel

[19:59:49] In the panel, poke all the buttons, study it. As a rule, it is super loyal in design and simple intuitive. First of all, we are interested in the menu item - drops

[20:00:04] Let's go over and see how the list of all drops falls out in a table format. We look at what states there are, how many people there are in each

[20:00:15] What information is given. Name, surname, address. Many panels keep statistics - this is very important, you can see how long it has been working, the jump took it, whether there were any problems, whether something is going on it now. Do not overload the drop, we are all human

[20:00:23] And we can all break down when the clock came to you, the laptop, the phone and you are semi-legal, in general, nothing prevents the drop from disappearing in the new Rolexes looking for a mate on the tinder for the evening through a brand new iPhone pro max

[20:00:32] General tips and tricks

[20:00:37] 1. We didn't go all in a row for one drop. It is better to break the parcels into several, just remember - even a manual drop is sinful and, under the onslaught of temptations, can disappear with your pack

[20:00:46] 2. Don't care for the name of the drop, they take a fake ID, so just make sure the pickup point is close to it. Nobody will chase a drop by car for a pack at a price of 200 bucks, more expensive - discuss it with glanders

[20:00:55] 3. In general, discuss all unclear points with glanders so that there is no jamb

[20:01:03] 4.Carefully fill out the information in the panel, this allows you to speed up work and avoid jambs

[20:01:15] 5. Be adequate, there is no competition and no one expects volumes from you, if you do well, ask for individual conditions for yourself, dropouts are adequate people and think businesslike.

[20:01:55] Further, everything is clear, they hammered into the drop, he went to pick it up, you also ask to take a picture and check the goods. If you are stingy, then the service will pay you everything. Prepare the kosh and take the coin.

[20:02:02] If you are carrying a product, then you need to prepare a label

[20:02:08] As soon as the drops receive the pack, to be sent to the middle, the drop service needs a label

[20:02:43] A label is like a letterhead. That is, a piece of paper that says from whom it was sent, from which address it was sent, to whom it was addressed and to which address. These labels can be ordered from the respective vendors on the forum. Usually a carg label costs about 5-10 bucks, if the label is white, the price can reach 500 dollars, for example, for a 70-inch plasma. The price depends on garabits as well as the distance of sending the parcel.

[20:02:56] The label is needed so that the drop channel does not bother filling out documents, payment, etc., but simply pasted this piece of paper on the parcel and took it to the post office, where it will be silently taken away from him and she will travel to her destination.

[20:03:04] An example of a label can be found here: http://prntscr.com/iekzf5

[20:03:51] 1 - sender's full name

2 - Sender street

3 - City / State / Sender Zip

4 - full name of the recipient

5 - Recipient street

6 - City / State / Postcode of recipient

7 - Date of dispatch

8 - Parcel weight

9 - Delivery date

10 - Track parcel number

[20:04:03] So, we finished the lecture, who have questions? and wait for our turn. I'll go pour some wine and answer

[20:05:25] <gangass13> 1) should the middle be as close to the kh as possible? at least the state to match

2) are there contacts of sellers of documents that sell and utility bills and all that is needed?

3) the left passport for forwarding turns out to be bought in the city from where you will pick up the delivery?

4) where to write this declaration that sneakers are found? in the middle?

5) can I pay for the shipment from my card? Or choose in the middle of which payment is in BTS?

[20:05:44] 1) ideally yes, but this is rare. Therefore the state.

[20:07:15] 2) look at the colleagues on the forum, there is a separate thread. 3) well, it doesn't matter where you buy, it is important where you pick it up, 4) no declaration is filled out when ordering, as soon as you drag it to us. like what are you carrying, 5) NEVER. WE DO NOT PAY ANYTHING FROM OUR THAT LEADS TO YOU - BAD AND TABOO

[20:07:26] <user80> GW is this?

As for the limits - today it is $ 200 and as many parcels as you like per month. Ie, the excess will be in each, right?

[20:08:10] <user80> How do you pay for the shipping in the end? With PP?

[20:08:21] ГВ - google voice. A virtual number from Google. Yes, the limits are constantly changing, this should be monitored. There are colleagues on the forum who pass parcels through the customs)

[20:08:26] <user80> How to put money on the left PP?

[20:08:32] sent ideally from a stick)

[20:08:41] You will have a lecture on PP)

[20:09:45] <goldenbaum> 1. If there is a delivery in the CIS in a small European store, can we cope without a follow-up?

2. About the stick on scans: do we do it only to settle accounts with the middle? What card do we twist to this stick? Russian? Is it dangerous? What if the stick requires verification in the connected? I just had this with my usual stick in my life)

3. Portable browser? Can I use the sphere?

4. Can I use hammered goods in my personal life?) For example, use a hammered laptop? Or ideally not worth it for safety

[20:09:53] <Goodman> 1. When working with drops to send to ru, you still need a middle?

2. Do all the stingy people take a fake ID?

3. What's easier to start with? From illiquid to stingy or egift?

[20:10:21] nothing, now I will answer everyone

[20:12:27] 1) Yes, it is not needed. Either on a neighbor / or in the middle of Russia, 2) there will be a lecture on a stick, everyone will tell you) 3) Better portables - because it's cheaper, hehe (still free), 4) yes, you can. In general, track your use, well, let's even assume that they are looking for you. Well, I bought it on Gorbushka (market in Moscow time) from Ashot in tent 234 - I don't fuck in my soul

[20:13:37] 1) Yes, because the question arises, who will take the parcel here already, if you go yourself then you don't need to. 2) Yes, all 3) which is tastier than raspberries or potatoes. I love everything, but for me, of course, it’s not easy to drive in much easier than liquid eGifts

[20:14:36] <AlexFlex2134> to send goods to yourself, is it better to use the list of intermediaries provided by you or find a drop service on the forum?

And why use legal services at all if there are "colleagues" who are ready and know that we are sending karzh, only that they (legal) will not steal our pack?

[20:16:24] <AlexFlex2134> but there is a chance that ak is blocked = equal to a drop spizdil pack

[20:16:25] 1) Here you are free to choose, I do not give any list. I know the guys, but I am a lecturer, I remain neutral and say choose yourself) 2) legal ones, if you drive them well, will never die and work is easier. But colleagues ... It already depends on the adequacy)

[20:16:50] to make the acc live longer is easier than to pray that the drop does not spoil your macbook

[20:17:05] <htuf> 1) What is a white label? 2) Is the pickup location one of the ways to deliver not to the door? 3) It turns out that I am sending to the name of KX and the dropservice itself resolves the issue with fake ID, etc.?

[20:18:13] 1) white label - real, black - made it and rendered it for you. 2) pickup is when you say, do not deliver the guys to my home, leave them in the store, I will come myself 3) yes, that's right)

[20:21:05] <deadhasan> that is, I signed up for Vasya Pupkin in the middle of sending a pack to the Russian Federation to Vasya Pupkin, and if he doesn’t come as a supplier, but let's say Russian mail, how can I get it? there is a corrupt employee, but I don't understand a little, but how without him

[20:21:29] <deadhasan> it is generally easier to register and send vytsepny namals to the Russian Federation

[20:21:32] do not use the Russian mail, or then order on the drunk's neighbor

[20:21:42] let him go and pick up the bottle

[20:21:53] <deadhasan> but what if they come to him?

[20:22:05] <OTJlU4HUK> 1. Why buy and to whom a full package of documents?

2. Sticks for scans?

3. The link is broken.

4. What kind of sticks?)

5. This way you will not kill your account in case of a charge. What is a charge?

[20:22:35] well, I took about junkies, I didn't care if they would come to him or not)

[20:23:52] 1) re-read the lecture log, said why it is needed (for registration), 2) yes 3) we will replace 4) stick - paper. Payment system, 5) charge - a refund when they write a letter in the middle, they say guys. IT'S NOT I bought, ABMANULI))

[20:24:07] I advise you to familiarize yourself with the basic vocabulary, you have the dictionary in the first message)

[20:24:25] <Temporary> 1. Start a portable browser for paper accounts and in the middle, and work exclusively with it. Cookies are our everything.

What's this? portable is understandable. but why? and what does the last phrase mean? what cookies are is also clear

[20:25:26] 1 portabl - 1 stick account - 1 account in the middle - this is ideal. The presence of cookies increases trust in us and reduces fraud)

[20:26:56] <Yarah> "First of all, we look at what kind of contacts the service leaves, for example, I am an ardent hater of a toad, for me it is not operative and the last century."

what does this mean? in English it says you hate "toad", what do you hate?

Also, why do people send parcel to Russia? Why not drive in 2 macbooks for 55% in USA drop, then sell it and buy one inside Russia with their own money? much easier?

[20:27:31] i hate jabber)

[20:27:53] because in russia u have 100%)

[20:28:30] <Yarah> i tried translating in Yandex, also "toad"

[20:28:46] <Yarah> "toads"

[20:28:51] your logic works only on a liquid product - on an illiquid one, everything suffers at once. After all, they will buy from you at 10-15%

[20:29:10] <Yarah> oh jabber

[20:29:13] <Yarah> oh ok haha

[20:29:17] in russian when u say - Toad, sound like Jabber

[20:30:05] <Koba787> 3 - when registering with the purchased documents, I correctly understood that the documents must be drawn, but the photo in them must be ours? What if, when issuing on the spot, the intermediary wants to make an identification? Or how? more

4 - we said a lot that AF does not like when the distance between the bilship and the delivering spike is large? But 99% of intermediaries are located in Delevar? What about this option?

5 - if a charge arrives, then these are new documents and a new account in the middle - right?

6 - I correctly understand that it is in the panel that we get the drop shipping address?

7 - fix: we found a drop in the panel, we see its ship address. When driving in - we drive in the name of the KX, beat the dress of the KX and the spike the address of the drop (stingy) from the panel so?

8 - will we have practical or visual examples of all these activities? but now like kittens

[20:32:27] 3) here, yes, our photo) You make a scan of a little crappy quality and that's it, 4) well, there are a lot of solutions, for example, work with enroll (there will be a lecture) where you can change the billing and hit beat = thorn, but you can search in the middle in any state. 5) yes, 6) yes, everything is correct, 7) yes, everything is correct, you enter into the panel they say I drove into such a name (take into account the half of the drop), 8) the practice of driving will be with you further

[20:32:51] <SPARK_LQ> 1.What is find?

[20:33:19] the ironic name of the Chinese Palenque, ala abibas

[20:34:23] <htuf> It turns out that the cleanest scheme is to transfer from drop to middle with a new label, so I will never lose an account with the latter? Does the parcel always have time to leave if the painfully compassionate KH starts ringing the bell?

[20:35:48] yes, it depends on the hand of the drop. Suddenly, he sent this in the middle already for 20 accs)) Not always, you can't guess here (But if the parcel left the store, then you can probably say that everything is fine

[20:36:17] <user80> Regarding htuf's question - how justified is it in terms of cost?

[20:36:28] I don't think this is rational

[20:36:58] it is profitable if you just found a shop, everything was picked up and milked perfectly, just like a kh sitting next to you and driving himself in)

[20:37:43] <Koba787> what does the pickup circuit look like? often seen in advertising on the forum

[20:38:18] Well, the simplest thing is that the delivery rings and they say, leave it in your self-service office, I'll come and pick it up myself

[20:38:30] <ame> Regarding the pickup, is this service a standard for drop carriers, or is it an option? At extra charge? Also about the stingy, do the stingy have a peak up?

[20:38:50] for an additional fee, of course, see its conditions) You pay for the legs and his fuss

[20:39:52] <Koba787> and a conditional drop arrives and picks it up? in what cases it works and is done

[20:40:08] <SPARK_LQ> 1. What is easier to drive liquid under a pickup? or illiquid on a different thorn? 2.Is the pickup truck non-liquid?

[20:40:26] <SPARK_LQ> by yus

[20:40:30] Yes, that's right, a drop comes and picks it up. Well, for example, when you do not have drops in the state, your legs can go to the next one and pick up

[20:42:16] 1) in our "profession" do not look for easy ways. There is no loot button for guys. Therefore, put these thoughts out of your head altogether. Someone will beat the liquid, someone will beat the thorn in a different way, but I can say that almost all the merchandise has tightened the screws and will not be sent to a different beat. in the yard 2020, not 2007.2) I do not care about the inside of the pack, the main thing is its cost. Look in the rules when he drives to the pickup)

[20:43:18] <goldenbaum> Is it worth it to drive in personally?

[20:43:26] <Koba787> 1 - and again a question, based on visually practical examples. we need to understand the scenarios for using this or that

2 - how to work if the beat and spike are different? only enrol?

[20:43:29] <goldenbaum> in RU

[20:44:16] 1) When it comes to Russia, think that Interpol will cover you. Unlikely) But conditional avito, vainot

[20:45:11] you will have visual examples of work, I will not connect to you by timing)

[20:46:03] search for merchs - which give for different or use enrol

[20:46:51] <Koba787> and the ending: are there dialers for enrolls too?

[20:47:12] <Koba787> it's good that I haven't poured myself wine yet)))

[20:47:13] of course) How can we do without them, for example, when we need to remove the lock region or bind the card to the NSF

[20:47:28] on rollers you will have 2 lectures)

[20:47:41] <Koba787> that is, we compose all the information, collect and give it to the dialer, who has to do everything, and then how will it go?

[20:47:43] well, there is a group where I am a mentor (hehe, advertising)

[20:47:59] no, well, you can ask for a call to order

[20:48:06] <Koba787> can I link? hungry for incomprehensible words and theses))

[20:48:12] yes, everything already depends on his skill)

[20:48:32] I can not give links, see the forum) I will not be so impudent and advertised

[20:48:46] <Koba787>

"No, well, you can ask for a call to order

I didn't understand this - will it be detailed in a separate lecture?

[20:49:04] well, ringing is a living person

[20:49:09] <Koba787> yes

[20:49:15] you write to him, you need to call the bra to make an order

[20:49:38] or bro, they don’t even send, call find out what the blunt is - push the parcel

[20:49:47] tell me that this is for a little disabled iPhone

[20:50:01] <Koba787> 'mnj is clear, I meant that in the case of enroll, the scheme is the same, the dialer works

[20:50:04] well, that's it) Give him all the data you have, here the communication is already turned on

[20:50:09] no)

[20:50:15] <Koba787> and which one?))))

[20:50:27] on videos - there is a different story, a dialer is rarely needed there, for some things

[20:50:38] and this you will learn from the videos at the lecture

[20:50:44] <Koba787> intrigue)))

[20:50:56] Especially since old-time Fox will read)

[20:51:07] So colleagues, are there any more questions?

[20:52:01] good, all skidding and fatty cutlets. Learn and remember - there is no loot button, but you can find it here and make it yourself. and the community will help)

[20:52:32] And questions, you can write to the Q / A thread) Or to the forum's ls, but I haven't been for a long time. Left for kovid country and chill)