Carding with NFC (Google Pay)

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Hi everyone, as always, thank you all for your help.

My question is related to NFC technology and carding with it.

I have currently managed to add a card to an Android mobile, so I can use it on Google Play and also in physical stores. I did a test buying from a vending machine (1.50€), I took out a Coca-Cola and the card worked.

My next step is to try to buy some product using Google Pay by buying on some website or Amazon. How would you proceed? As if I did carding online and warmed up the website before buying?
 
Hello.
Did you manage to add a card with NON VBV bin to your phone? How did you define it?
You need to clarify which card you added, since for small purchases OTP will not be requested, but if you are planning to make a large purchase, then OTP may work.
 
Hello.
Did you manage to add a card with NON VBV bin to your phone? How did you define it?
You need to clarify which card you added, since for small purchases OTP will not be requested, but if you are planning to make a large purchase, then OTP may work.
I think it's a no vbv since he didn't ask me for confirmation and directly joined my phone. The code was given to me by a colleague, but he doesn't know if it's no vbv either.

My idea is to make small-scale purchases and work your way up to see if you ask for OTP.
 
Hello! The following information is provided strictly for educational and awareness purposes to help understand how digital payment systems like Google Pay and NFC-based transactions work, the security mechanisms in place, and why unauthorized use of payment credentials — even if shared or obtained indirectly — is both technically monitored and legally prohibited.

🔍 Understanding Google Pay, NFC, and Payment Authorization​

1. How Google Pay Works (NFC & Online)​

Google Pay uses Near Field Communication (NFC) technology to enable contactless payments in physical stores. However, it also supports online purchases through participating merchants via digital wallets on websites or apps.

When you add a card to Google Pay:
  • Your actual card number (PAN – Primary Account Number) is not stored on your device or shared during transactions.
  • Instead, Google generates a device-specific virtual account number (token) that represents your card.
  • This token is used for transactions, enhancing security by preventing exposure of your real card details.

This system is part of the EMV Tokenization standard, adopted globally by major card networks (Visa, Mastercard, etc.).

2. In-Person vs. Online Transactions​

  • In-person (NFC): When you tap your phone at a terminal, the transaction uses the tokenized card number. For small amounts (e.g., under €25 in many EU countries), no PIN or biometric confirmation may be required — this is called contactless limit exemption.
  • Online (Merchant websites, Amazon, etc.): Some merchants support "Pay with Google" buttons that pull payment info from your wallet. These are treated as card-not-present (CNP) transactions, which carry higher fraud risk and trigger additional protections.

🔐 Security Layers in Modern Payments​

Several systems protect against misuse:

A. 3D Secure (3DS / VbV / SecureCode)​

  • Verified by Visa (VbV), Mastercard Identity Check, etc., are versions of 3D Secure, an authentication protocol.
  • Requires user verification: password, SMS OTP, push notification, or biometrics.
  • Exemptions exist: Under PSD2 (EU regulation), low-risk or low-value transactions (<€30) may skip 3DS (transaction risk analysis, or TRA).
  • Just because no OTP was requested does not mean the card lacks 3DS — it might have been exempted due to risk scoring.

Example: A vending machine transaction for €1.50 is likely below thresholds for strong authentication, so no challenge occurs — even if the card supports 3DS.

B. Tokenization & Fraud Monitoring​

  • Each transaction using Google Pay includes dynamic cryptograms that change per transaction.
  • Banks and networks (Visa/Mastercard) monitor patterns: sudden new devices, locations, merchant types, frequency.
  • Suspicious behavior triggers alerts, blocks, or step-up authentication.

C. Device Binding & Remote Management​

  • Cards added to Google Pay are tied to your Google account and device hardware (secure element).
  • If the original cardholder reports loss/theft or removes the card remotely, it becomes invalid instantly.
  • Devices can be locked or wiped remotely via Find My Device.

🚫 Why "Testing" Unauthorized Cards Is Illegal and Detectable​

Even if someone gives you a card number “as a test,” here’s what happens behind the scenes:

ACTIVITYRISK & DETECTION
Adding a card to Google PayRequires valid CVV, expiry, name. Issuer logs this enrollment.
First transaction (vending machine)Triggers location/device change alert. May flag for review.
Repeated/small "test" purchasesPattern recognized as card testing (carding attack).
Online attempts without 3DSMerchant systems detect anomalies; velocity checks trigger declines.

Banks use AI-driven fraud detection engines that analyze:
  • Device fingerprint
  • Geolocation
  • Time between transactions
  • Merchant category codes (MCC)
  • Historical spending patterns

Suspicious activity leads to:
  • Instant decline
  • Card suspension

Final Note​

Technology like Google Pay is designed to make payments convenient and secure. Its layered defenses — tokenization, biometrics, behavioral analytics, and regulatory compliance — are built specifically to prevent exactly the kind of scenario described, even when initiated with seemingly minor actions.
 
Hi everyone, as always, thank you all for your help.

My question is related to NFC technology and carding with it.

I have currently managed to add a card to an Android mobile, so I can use it on Google Play and also in physical stores. I did a test buying from a vending machine (1.50€), I took out a Coca-Cola and the card worked.

My next step is to try to buy some product using Google Pay by buying on some website or Amazon. How would you proceed? As if I did carding online and warmed up the website before buying?
how can i add the card on google wellet without otp
 
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