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To work with drops, from my point of view, you need:
Personally, this is enough for me. When you see a person live, you should already understand what this person is, 5-10 minutes of heart-to-heart conversations, and you are ready to conclude what this person is ready for, and for what pay he will work. I will not go into the details of what will be described below anyway, but I will say one thing. If desired, anyone can become a drop guide. We must not forget what we are working for. And payment in this matter is very important.
Localization as one of the most important factors in work (Drop farming in USA / EU)
I have to start according to the plan with work in the USA, in which in practice, of course, I do not understand anything? But I can give some part of the information. If we take USA - the biggest risk here is probably work in the country in which the drop sits, and even the material of this country. I will talk about the safety of working with drops below, I think it will work for USA too.
On the intricacies of work: a common way to "pull" a parcel in the United States is pickup.
For those who do not know, they resort to pick-up in cases when the goods were sent to the address of the card holder using his card / brute-force account in the online store / auction, etc. In such a situation, a drop that already has a pre-prepared fake id / power of attorney, arrives at the address specified as the "delivery address" and picks up the parcel under the guise of KX himself (with a power of attorney, as a relative, friend, neighbor, etc.).
I am telling elementary things, because not all carding / drop farming gurus are here. More difficult things will come later
Don't think that pick-up service is in demand only in countries where the AVS system operates. For example, I had an order in the Czech Republic, where from fatty (with a history, where orders are 7-10k $) brute ebay accounts, they ordered expensive electronics and jewelry to the addresses of account holders, and in the same way they successfully picked up these orders. In any case, working with drops in the USA is much more dangerous than in EU.
EU work (DE / CZ / PL)
This is where all my activity is being conducted, here I can tell you a lot of interesting things. As many people know, I work in Poland, sometimes sending drops to neighboring countries. In most cases, the reason for the trips is the pickup of parcels from Amazon / Ebay, sometimes we pick up especially expensive things made by the obscenities of the country we are going to.
As for the difficulties of the Germans working with this case, they are the strictest of all (that's what friendly drop services say). If you make parcels with the foul language of the country, the drop drops even before the arrival of the parcel. I experimented with this, made orders for adjustable drops from the Polish mat. 4/5 drops "died" before the arrival of the package. The fate of the drops is unknown to me to this day. With regards to DE and CZ - we work well on the road, no one has yet "hit" in 2.5 months of work. This is a situation in which the whole process can only be understood by trial and error. Everyone does it differently, it is not possible to derive a single formula. Practice companions.
Directions of activity of drops
You can give examples from hundreds of areas, ranging from LLC registration to credit topics / leasing cars. But here I will focus on the 3 most popular topics in my service.
According to my observations, the most in demand are:
For example, "golden bins". In the process of driving, when a vbv request comes in, you completely isolate the traffic, start up an empty request from vbv, let the traffic continue (all this was done through the plinker / proxyfair) - and the bank accepts vbv. Watches for $ 10,000, jewelry, iMac for $ 4-5k, everything is possible.
I didn't drive in, I won't explain the intricacies of such a drive, but I think you understand what this is about. This is a bug of the bank itself, but there is such a thing. With the second - a huge number of subtleties and nuances that drag on to one more lecture. If you want to work only on this topic, look for thematic forums, try small, try uploading yourself (at least in order to understand what is happening during this process). Everything is like everywhere else.
With regards to verification - most likely you thought that we will be talking about the verification of wallets like qiwi. Only these wallets are sold on the network for 1-2 thousand. rubles, as far as I know. Being in EU / USA is not money for you. So why is there such an item: "Drops for verification"?
And here everything is much more interesting. Quite recently, maybe 2 weeks ago, I came across an interesting stream of orders on the topic of verification.
It was necessary to verify services in which this process looks as follows "communication - verification - result". In a nutshell: an employee of the verification service contacts the drop and in the online broadcast asks several basic questions in English (random), then asks to show the document to the camera from both sides, and, you guessed it, the face too ...
By the way, I saw exactly the same service today on the forum. Live verification systems are gaining popularity. Live verification, from what I learned, is very expensive for corporations, but very effective. As for the connection, I met a request for verification via Skype and through the built-in offer (they force you to download the application to the phone, the phone is tied to you and you go through the verification through the phone camera).
The most popular verification center in Germany today is IDNOW. For successful verification less than 100 euros I have not yet been offered. By the way, we verified the exchange of currency into bitcoins, which allowed replenishing itself through ordinary ss's, and transferring the replenished amount to BTC. If people have good stuff, they drain it this way. After such verification, we have not yet had any problems with withdrawing money from the SS. Merch writes them off almost immediately. At the same time, the drop uses fake id so that there is a match according to the KX data (the merchant breaks through a lot of EU banks).
Selection of drops for all occasions + Rules for working with drops
The first point here will be to find drops and where to find them. Personally, I searched for my first drops through social networks VK.com and facebook.com. I collected drops using the “work in a developing transport company” method. A short history that we need warehouses in Europe, but we ourselves are here only in transit. They say, take the parcels, and our man will come to Mon and Fri, for example, and take all this stuff.
In this case, you can get a resume !! drop. Where he studies, works. There are usually no problems with a drop in the future.
Why is it convenient to collect people in social media? networks - you see photos of a person, "statuses" on his wall. It will immediately become clear what the "frame" is in front of you. From experience, people with public pages like “the life of a millionaire”, “brother for brother”, “I want it, so I will achieve” - do not take it. Don't step on my rake. These people can only be used for tough chernukha, such as bared plastic. And the fact that they do not understand anything. To date, I have an automated search for drops, I will describe the scheme in more detail below.
The second point here will be about the types of drors, and which type is best (in my opinion). (I will state my thought specifically for my situation, for me this is the most convenient, but for you it may not work at all).
Some manual had nicely structured types of drops. For myself, I distinguish 3 types. Adjustable, semi adjustable, non-adjustable.
It's simple, no much explanation is required:
For 6 months of work, I have not used a single fixed drop. Why? They cost me dearly. Even when a person knew a lot about the situation, in general, he still did not understand all the seriousness. As for the clothes, I work with adjustable wedges + semi wedges.
Why they? Yes, elementary, as I wrote above, for financial reasons. They want such drops for receiving a parcel 2-4 times less than non-diluted ones. For each situation, you need to select a different person. It's like putting together a big puzzle.
Many will say that wedges will lose parcels. If you work with them correctly, there are no problems.
I have a boyfriend who has been working with me for almost six months. From time to time I spoil him with staff, to which no one responded. The boy lives, he enjoys life. As for living in RU, but organizing a drop service in EU is, as for me, impossible.
If you personally cannot come and pat the drop on the head, they will lose parcels, couriers will give packs to their “neighbors”, etc. Fortunately, it has never come to a physical approach. Verbally, "insert" the drop is enough. For prophylaxis, this is a necessary procedure from time to time. And now it is. I would completely rewrite this part of the text I wrote.
Last month I took one drop from ZP 600 $ and this is more than profitable, he accepts a lot of packages. Over the past month, it has exceeded 400 pieces.
What now occurred to me. In order not to suffer with the search for drops, etc. I decided to create a kind of "super drop". Everyone who worked with me wonders why, when trying to take a drop from me, messages like "take a random Polish name, a random address in Warsaw and type it in."
I will tell all these nuances below, but in theory, if a drop will carry about 40 active sim cards with it (this replaces 40 drops). S ZP about 1000 $ it will be very profitable
With regards to organizing a drop service in EU (USA) from the CIS.
Surprise, but from the underground I pulled out entire schemes for conducting drop farming based on UBER taxis, the scheme is approximately as follows: send staff to the reception at the hotel from brute UBER accounts, order a taxi, asking them to pick up the package and take it to another place.
Having only one drop in a big city (in which there are usually about 50-100 hotels of different ranks) I think you can draw a lot of staff.
On this topic, probably everything I wanted to add. Going further - Working with drops - safety rules (The main drop is working on the principle of "pimping").
As funny and strange as it sounds, the hierarchy provides many conveniences. I found a girl who wanted to work and earn money, she didn't ask many questions. I made her the center of the drops. He taught a little the intricacies of work, sits, recruits new people.
My girlfriend works as a logistics center, pick up all the packs, bring them and drop them to the warehouse. Controls all drops in real life. And I don't glow in front of drops.
In terms of physical security, I never use my phone. I make appointments for specific hours in specific places where there are no cameras. No "I will be in red sneakers", "with a blue backpack", etc. You always need to walk with a drop, talk to him for 5-10 minutes, understand what kind of person, and whether there will be problems with him. When you need to - you need to intimidate. Such work is not very pleasant. Like any work with people. I remembered one quote from the film, the essence of which is: people should respect you. Or be afraid. And best of all, when fear is mixed with respect. These people are the least problematic.
What else I will add on my own. At first, he kept the staff in the apartment where he lived. After the arrival of a very large number of staff, he rented a closed garage 4 km away. from the house (not very profitable, believe me) today I rented a house, converted the basement into a warehouse, more than satisfied.
When the police came to the drop
Everything is very brief here. We use contracts with drops for employers. That is, we open a company, on its behalf we sign contracts for work on receiving parcels with a drop. We collect 5-10 people for a company and close it. When the police come with questions - the drop is at a loss - shows the contract. Was the company like that? Was. Is the drop a victim of scammers? Victim. For six months, not a single drop suffered (who had these contracts).
This can also be used to open company accounts in banks and more (Drop received an order from the company to open a company account, and then was fired). What you can think of. An intelligent lawyer will be very useful to you here. It would be nice to get one.
Pull the parcel out at any cost
Over the course of my work, I have had a variety of situations when I had to pull a parcel from a drop, which was taken, for example, to a pre-trial detention center (yes, and that was, thanks to the craftsmen to beat from the Polish mat). I was driving a pack with 2 MacBooks, it would be stupid to lose such a package. So we come to the very essence of this part. Now we will talk about the methods of receiving parcels, and how to "get them out" from the wildest situation.
We have developed two methods of receiving parcels:
Fake id
I think everything is clear. We make / buy an internal biometric passport card of any country (preferably, of course, the Baltic states, where part of the population speaks Russian), so that in a critical situation we simply do not “screw up”. And order staff for it (again, I work 95% with Russian-speaking drops, so I use the Baltic states).
Power of attorney for drops
Nothing complicated either. Random names, we draw up the usual left-handed credits, we accept them. This is with regards to "take on any name", most couriers do not even look to whom they give. But it doesn't hurt to have. You can also take out the parcel by calling the courier company. We use this method very often. A variety of stories from "moved to another address" to "my mother / grandfather went on vacation, and they asked me to receive the package." Sometimes they do not want to change their name, but agree to change their address. In this case, you can use powers of attorney.
As for the ringing in a month, everything has changed so dramatically that this item can be deleted for most couriers altogether.
DHL - today (17-12-16) does not redirect parcels through dialing! NO WAY. They now have only through a letter from the mail attached to the order (which is very problematic when you work with brut)
UPS / Fedex / TNT work
DPD - with grief in half. The function was introduced selectively. It costs a lot, but if such a checkbox is set, only the sender can change the parcel data
USPS - everything that is sent reaches Poland by DHL, so there are no more couriers, as such
Drop panel and organization of work with clients
I think this point will be of interest to many. I will not write where to get the drop panel, I will only say that a panel from the verif passed through my hands (the cost of which is about $ 750/800). The panel, I tell you, is quite a handy thing. But as for me, it is more oriented towards the west. It is there that it can be used "in all its beauty." There are about two dozen modules to choose from, which you can buy for yourself.
Why don't I use drop panels for work? - There isn't that much traffic that I cannot handle manually, including the fact that most of the work is done by the main drop.
I organized everything at a rather primitive level.
Now let's fix everything
1. Nonsense, I wrote that with regards to "cope". If you can imagine what 400 parcels are (not small ones, such as telephones), but the same plasma, car wash, tires, etc.
When 3 times a week 2 sprinters' Mercedes, completely crammed downhill, come to you, and sometimes this is not enough, you have to go with your own coffin truck (station wagon) to bring the rest).
You are not that you cannot cope, you physically cannot take it all into your own hands.
2. With regards to Exell.
When a large number of parcels have gone, it takes hours to physically add all the data to Excel itself. The option is good for the beginning. But not for high revs.
We accept parcels from Amazon. Working with UPS / DHL (depending on location)
Amazon is such a specific platform that it needs to be singled out as a separate topic everywhere. As for Amazon Europe, everything is simple, they place orders for you, you accept. You don't pay any taxes, which cannot be said about Amazon World (USA, JAPAN, CANADA and others). When shipping goods from these countries to the EU, each item is subject to tax (20% on average). This should be taken into account for lovers of Refund. Amazon automatically charges tax (adds to the order amount), and debits this amount from your card, automatically paying the customs payment in advance.
To receive parcels from Amazon, you will need a lot of addresses. Since you cannot send a parcel to 1 address more than 1 parcel, and I do not advise you to send no more than 10 parcels to 1 house (then the house falls into the "risky" zone), we use the spider-web method of receiving packs for the Amazon. For example, Warsaw has 18 districts. In each of these areas, we have an Amazon drop. Why separate drops?
But because it takes a certain amount of time to pull out the order from the one who gets it. We alternate districts, each district has a maximum of 3 house orders. In this case, after 1-1.5 months of “sleeping”, you can send it to the house further (to other apartments, of course). And we change addresses in the whole city. Fortunately, the Amazon cannot block the whole city).
Those who advise changing the address in the form "ul. XXX 5, kv. 5 "and" XXX 5 street, apt. 5 "kills the house even faster. We strongly advise against what to do. There are situations when the name and surname of the drops (i.e. Oleg / Oleh / Olegh, Drevneyy, Drevneiy, Drevneyi, etc.) are grimacing. We tried to do this - it doesn't affect refs at all (from what I see). By entering your full name in the Facebook / contact search page, you will see several more people with similar data.
And some full names give out 30, 40, 200 and more matches. If "Ivan Petrov" refunds, will all the Ivans Petrovs from the CIS end up in the Amazon blacklist? Unlikely. But work at your own discretion.
The mobile phone can be specified as a random one, but it is deliberately incorrect. (Country code, the first 3 digits of the operator, which are 100% free (for example, in Poland it is 321, 123, 987, 132, 362, etc.) The whole number for Poland looks like this: +48 321 *** ***, where * is any number from 0 to 9)
Such parcels, where the address, the name of the drop, the mobile number do not exist, in fact, can also be pulled out. Moreover, this does not apply only to the Amazon, carzh can also be taken in this way.
In UPS, such packs can be accepted only by powers of attorney, DHL - dialing (information for 2016, country Poland). For example, DHL changed the method of reception 2 times in the last month. It should be different in each country.
Here and a controversial nuance a week after this article was written, DHL closed the phone forwarding method completely. And all the fault is the pickup, so they know.
We accept parcels from USA / Canada / Asia
Many people ask whether it is realistic to send parcels from the States, Canada, Asia to Europe, where the customs limit in most countries is 22 euros. You can send such packs, but you need to find stores that allow you to pay tax from the KX card (a living example of Amazon), or stores that have warehouses in Europe.
Although faced with a problem, most stores in Asia and Australia will not pay tax for you (we have not found a single store like this). Understate the invoice - yes. Even to understate the invoice for the phone for $ 300 to 20 euros, and designate it as "6 cases, folded into bricks" - and that was. But in order to pay the tax right away - this has not been seen yet.
In the USA and Canada, it is more than realistic to find this. When your parcel is transported by DHL or UPS, you will not be able to pay tax otherwise than by transfer / cash (in 99% the courier will pay the tax for you, having previously “thrown” another $ 10 for its services), so the courier will take the demand for payment of customs duty. And of course, we are only talking about Poland.
There are countries where the tax can be paid through their own merchandise (regular ss), and even paper. This is when we say that your parcel will be stuck at customs, and the state will have to pay "directly". Of course, I do not advise anyone to pay for this with "chernukha". Do not even hope that your pack will arrive (especially if we talk about PP). Also, the drop will have serious problems after such a "payment".
I also brought carding labels to a separate point.
I found out about them not too long ago. In short: you pay for the courier service (transportation of the parcel) by carzh, they give you a label, you print it, paste it on your parcel, send it. I am not surprised that it was difficult to find any information on this account, as well as the performers.
I think this is just nonsense. What kind of Jew do you need to be in order not to pay 10-20 euros for the delivery of a parcel across the EU, and $ 30-60 for delivery from the USA (we are talking about small-sized, not heavy parcels ). This service only makes sense if you are sending very heavy and cheap stuff. The delivery of which is expensive, and you are not afraid to lose. Then it makes sense. All other uses for this servant, at least to me, are meaningless. The price tag of such a label is around $ 20, you can find craftsmen on the forums.
My advice:
Sending a pack from a drop to a client
The fastest and most expensive way to send:
The cheapest way to send:
I sent each of these courier services, frankly, except for the speed of delivery, there is nothing different. Sometimes EMS sent packs that were apparently opened at customs, there was almost nothing left of the box, but everything was fine with the contents.
People are constantly interested, I will write what is happening with the shipment today
DHL / UPS - delivery costs $ 100 / $ 200 (air, 1-3 days)
State mail (Polish Post) / EMS - delivery costs $ 25 / $ 45
These are the minimum rates. Delivery time to MSC (5-9) / (3-7) - Polish Post / EMC, respectively.
If you plan to engage in drop farming in the future, I advise you to build a structure: the drop takes it to the warehouse, the white drop from the warehouse is engaged in mailing. Do not send from a drop that received the pack directly. Do not substitute the recipient. This is the first thing. And then you will get more problems when it happens that the drop will get the iPhone from the package and put the trash there. At the warehouse, you can always make sure yourself what has arrived.
Legalize black business: Own a small courier company in the EU
I was very much interested in this topic. I met people who were serious about it, including the former director of international parcels for the "new mail". There are a lot of nuances that I have not yet learned.
In short. If you want to start transporting parcels from EU in the CIS, you must definitely obtain a license (buy a company with it) for postal activities (you will not stand at the customs, you are allowed in a separate pass, you are not responsible for the contents of the shipments, and a dozen more privileges) ...
In the future, I think to seriously do this, but I came to the conclusion that if you have the goal of taking over the international traffic, one way or another, you need to start with a small courier service. Wait and see ..
Question answer
How do you deal with the resale of so many staff? Did you find a buyer quickly? do you sell wholesale in Poland and according to EU?
With regards to resale. There are a lot of nuances, this will already be another lecture on stingy service)
The question about the drops that receive the message already in RU, when sending from the middle of USA, is it needed in your city? Or can I send it to myself from the middle? On myself vsmysle on fictitious names?
I would not send on myself, of course. Do not forget that this is chernukha. There are a lot of texts, how they work in the middle, they are generally a separate topic, they have their own nuances. But only accept drops
- good to be able to lie
- understand when to lie and when to tell the truth
Personally, this is enough for me. When you see a person live, you should already understand what this person is, 5-10 minutes of heart-to-heart conversations, and you are ready to conclude what this person is ready for, and for what pay he will work. I will not go into the details of what will be described below anyway, but I will say one thing. If desired, anyone can become a drop guide. We must not forget what we are working for. And payment in this matter is very important.
Localization as one of the most important factors in work (Drop farming in USA / EU)
I have to start according to the plan with work in the USA, in which in practice, of course, I do not understand anything? But I can give some part of the information. If we take USA - the biggest risk here is probably work in the country in which the drop sits, and even the material of this country. I will talk about the safety of working with drops below, I think it will work for USA too.
On the intricacies of work: a common way to "pull" a parcel in the United States is pickup.
For those who do not know, they resort to pick-up in cases when the goods were sent to the address of the card holder using his card / brute-force account in the online store / auction, etc. In such a situation, a drop that already has a pre-prepared fake id / power of attorney, arrives at the address specified as the "delivery address" and picks up the parcel under the guise of KX himself (with a power of attorney, as a relative, friend, neighbor, etc.).
I am telling elementary things, because not all carding / drop farming gurus are here. More difficult things will come later
Don't think that pick-up service is in demand only in countries where the AVS system operates. For example, I had an order in the Czech Republic, where from fatty (with a history, where orders are 7-10k $) brute ebay accounts, they ordered expensive electronics and jewelry to the addresses of account holders, and in the same way they successfully picked up these orders. In any case, working with drops in the USA is much more dangerous than in EU.
EU work (DE / CZ / PL)
This is where all my activity is being conducted, here I can tell you a lot of interesting things. As many people know, I work in Poland, sometimes sending drops to neighboring countries. In most cases, the reason for the trips is the pickup of parcels from Amazon / Ebay, sometimes we pick up especially expensive things made by the obscenities of the country we are going to.
As for the difficulties of the Germans working with this case, they are the strictest of all (that's what friendly drop services say). If you make parcels with the foul language of the country, the drop drops even before the arrival of the parcel. I experimented with this, made orders for adjustable drops from the Polish mat. 4/5 drops "died" before the arrival of the package. The fate of the drops is unknown to me to this day. With regards to DE and CZ - we work well on the road, no one has yet "hit" in 2.5 months of work. This is a situation in which the whole process can only be understood by trial and error. Everyone does it differently, it is not possible to derive a single formula. Practice companions.
Directions of activity of drops
You can give examples from hundreds of areas, ranging from LLC registration to credit topics / leasing cars. But here I will focus on the 3 most popular topics in my service.
According to my observations, the most in demand are:
- Drops for clothing carding
- Drops under the bays
- Drops for verification of something
For example, "golden bins". In the process of driving, when a vbv request comes in, you completely isolate the traffic, start up an empty request from vbv, let the traffic continue (all this was done through the plinker / proxyfair) - and the bank accepts vbv. Watches for $ 10,000, jewelry, iMac for $ 4-5k, everything is possible.
I didn't drive in, I won't explain the intricacies of such a drive, but I think you understand what this is about. This is a bug of the bank itself, but there is such a thing. With the second - a huge number of subtleties and nuances that drag on to one more lecture. If you want to work only on this topic, look for thematic forums, try small, try uploading yourself (at least in order to understand what is happening during this process). Everything is like everywhere else.
With regards to verification - most likely you thought that we will be talking about the verification of wallets like qiwi. Only these wallets are sold on the network for 1-2 thousand. rubles, as far as I know. Being in EU / USA is not money for you. So why is there such an item: "Drops for verification"?
And here everything is much more interesting. Quite recently, maybe 2 weeks ago, I came across an interesting stream of orders on the topic of verification.
It was necessary to verify services in which this process looks as follows "communication - verification - result". In a nutshell: an employee of the verification service contacts the drop and in the online broadcast asks several basic questions in English (random), then asks to show the document to the camera from both sides, and, you guessed it, the face too ...
By the way, I saw exactly the same service today on the forum. Live verification systems are gaining popularity. Live verification, from what I learned, is very expensive for corporations, but very effective. As for the connection, I met a request for verification via Skype and through the built-in offer (they force you to download the application to the phone, the phone is tied to you and you go through the verification through the phone camera).
The most popular verification center in Germany today is IDNOW. For successful verification less than 100 euros I have not yet been offered. By the way, we verified the exchange of currency into bitcoins, which allowed replenishing itself through ordinary ss's, and transferring the replenished amount to BTC. If people have good stuff, they drain it this way. After such verification, we have not yet had any problems with withdrawing money from the SS. Merch writes them off almost immediately. At the same time, the drop uses fake id so that there is a match according to the KX data (the merchant breaks through a lot of EU banks).
Selection of drops for all occasions + Rules for working with drops
The first point here will be to find drops and where to find them. Personally, I searched for my first drops through social networks VK.com and facebook.com. I collected drops using the “work in a developing transport company” method. A short history that we need warehouses in Europe, but we ourselves are here only in transit. They say, take the parcels, and our man will come to Mon and Fri, for example, and take all this stuff.
In this case, you can get a resume !! drop. Where he studies, works. There are usually no problems with a drop in the future.
Why is it convenient to collect people in social media? networks - you see photos of a person, "statuses" on his wall. It will immediately become clear what the "frame" is in front of you. From experience, people with public pages like “the life of a millionaire”, “brother for brother”, “I want it, so I will achieve” - do not take it. Don't step on my rake. These people can only be used for tough chernukha, such as bared plastic. And the fact that they do not understand anything. To date, I have an automated search for drops, I will describe the scheme in more detail below.
The second point here will be about the types of drors, and which type is best (in my opinion). (I will state my thought specifically for my situation, for me this is the most convenient, but for you it may not work at all).
Some manual had nicely structured types of drops. For myself, I distinguish 3 types. Adjustable, semi adjustable, non-adjustable.
It's simple, no much explanation is required:
- The wrench does not understand what is going on at all
- The semi-wrench understands his actions only partly, or even thinks that he is engaged in other activities (while he is aware that it is illegal)
- Undivided (Knows exactly as much as he is entitled to. Understands what he is doing)
For 6 months of work, I have not used a single fixed drop. Why? They cost me dearly. Even when a person knew a lot about the situation, in general, he still did not understand all the seriousness. As for the clothes, I work with adjustable wedges + semi wedges.
Why they? Yes, elementary, as I wrote above, for financial reasons. They want such drops for receiving a parcel 2-4 times less than non-diluted ones. For each situation, you need to select a different person. It's like putting together a big puzzle.
Many will say that wedges will lose parcels. If you work with them correctly, there are no problems.
I have a boyfriend who has been working with me for almost six months. From time to time I spoil him with staff, to which no one responded. The boy lives, he enjoys life. As for living in RU, but organizing a drop service in EU is, as for me, impossible.
If you personally cannot come and pat the drop on the head, they will lose parcels, couriers will give packs to their “neighbors”, etc. Fortunately, it has never come to a physical approach. Verbally, "insert" the drop is enough. For prophylaxis, this is a necessary procedure from time to time. And now it is. I would completely rewrite this part of the text I wrote.
Last month I took one drop from ZP 600 $ and this is more than profitable, he accepts a lot of packages. Over the past month, it has exceeded 400 pieces.
What now occurred to me. In order not to suffer with the search for drops, etc. I decided to create a kind of "super drop". Everyone who worked with me wonders why, when trying to take a drop from me, messages like "take a random Polish name, a random address in Warsaw and type it in."
I will tell all these nuances below, but in theory, if a drop will carry about 40 active sim cards with it (this replaces 40 drops). S ZP about 1000 $ it will be very profitable
With regards to organizing a drop service in EU (USA) from the CIS.
Surprise, but from the underground I pulled out entire schemes for conducting drop farming based on UBER taxis, the scheme is approximately as follows: send staff to the reception at the hotel from brute UBER accounts, order a taxi, asking them to pick up the package and take it to another place.
Having only one drop in a big city (in which there are usually about 50-100 hotels of different ranks) I think you can draw a lot of staff.
On this topic, probably everything I wanted to add. Going further - Working with drops - safety rules (The main drop is working on the principle of "pimping").
As funny and strange as it sounds, the hierarchy provides many conveniences. I found a girl who wanted to work and earn money, she didn't ask many questions. I made her the center of the drops. He taught a little the intricacies of work, sits, recruits new people.
My girlfriend works as a logistics center, pick up all the packs, bring them and drop them to the warehouse. Controls all drops in real life. And I don't glow in front of drops.
In terms of physical security, I never use my phone. I make appointments for specific hours in specific places where there are no cameras. No "I will be in red sneakers", "with a blue backpack", etc. You always need to walk with a drop, talk to him for 5-10 minutes, understand what kind of person, and whether there will be problems with him. When you need to - you need to intimidate. Such work is not very pleasant. Like any work with people. I remembered one quote from the film, the essence of which is: people should respect you. Or be afraid. And best of all, when fear is mixed with respect. These people are the least problematic.
What else I will add on my own. At first, he kept the staff in the apartment where he lived. After the arrival of a very large number of staff, he rented a closed garage 4 km away. from the house (not very profitable, believe me) today I rented a house, converted the basement into a warehouse, more than satisfied.
When the police came to the drop
Everything is very brief here. We use contracts with drops for employers. That is, we open a company, on its behalf we sign contracts for work on receiving parcels with a drop. We collect 5-10 people for a company and close it. When the police come with questions - the drop is at a loss - shows the contract. Was the company like that? Was. Is the drop a victim of scammers? Victim. For six months, not a single drop suffered (who had these contracts).
This can also be used to open company accounts in banks and more (Drop received an order from the company to open a company account, and then was fired). What you can think of. An intelligent lawyer will be very useful to you here. It would be nice to get one.
Pull the parcel out at any cost
Over the course of my work, I have had a variety of situations when I had to pull a parcel from a drop, which was taken, for example, to a pre-trial detention center (yes, and that was, thanks to the craftsmen to beat from the Polish mat). I was driving a pack with 2 MacBooks, it would be stupid to lose such a package. So we come to the very essence of this part. Now we will talk about the methods of receiving parcels, and how to "get them out" from the wildest situation.
We have developed two methods of receiving parcels:
Fake id
I think everything is clear. We make / buy an internal biometric passport card of any country (preferably, of course, the Baltic states, where part of the population speaks Russian), so that in a critical situation we simply do not “screw up”. And order staff for it (again, I work 95% with Russian-speaking drops, so I use the Baltic states).
Power of attorney for drops
Nothing complicated either. Random names, we draw up the usual left-handed credits, we accept them. This is with regards to "take on any name", most couriers do not even look to whom they give. But it doesn't hurt to have. You can also take out the parcel by calling the courier company. We use this method very often. A variety of stories from "moved to another address" to "my mother / grandfather went on vacation, and they asked me to receive the package." Sometimes they do not want to change their name, but agree to change their address. In this case, you can use powers of attorney.
As for the ringing in a month, everything has changed so dramatically that this item can be deleted for most couriers altogether.
DHL - today (17-12-16) does not redirect parcels through dialing! NO WAY. They now have only through a letter from the mail attached to the order (which is very problematic when you work with brut)
UPS / Fedex / TNT work
DPD - with grief in half. The function was introduced selectively. It costs a lot, but if such a checkbox is set, only the sender can change the parcel data
USPS - everything that is sent reaches Poland by DHL, so there are no more couriers, as such
Drop panel and organization of work with clients
I think this point will be of interest to many. I will not write where to get the drop panel, I will only say that a panel from the verif passed through my hands (the cost of which is about $ 750/800). The panel, I tell you, is quite a handy thing. But as for me, it is more oriented towards the west. It is there that it can be used "in all its beauty." There are about two dozen modules to choose from, which you can buy for yourself.
Why don't I use drop panels for work? - There isn't that much traffic that I cannot handle manually, including the fact that most of the work is done by the main drop.
- With the panel during the month of testing, a bunch of jambs got out (the product itself was troublesome, perhaps the problems of the old version, but at that moment I refrained from switching, and this was one of the reasons)
- I learned very late about the existence of such panels, and that anyone can buy them for $ 1000.
I organized everything at a rather primitive level.
- I mark the contacts in the toad as [Drives in Asos / Amazon / Ebay] nickname123@jabber.com | nickname on the forum
- I save all tracks in browser bookmarks, and check / update every morning
- I use Exell for cloud-based documentation. (synchronization, as well as with the teams who work on the Amazon (they add new tracks, I just "take them", and with the main drop, which marks the packages that have arrived along the tracks and the like)
Now let's fix everything
1. Nonsense, I wrote that with regards to "cope". If you can imagine what 400 parcels are (not small ones, such as telephones), but the same plasma, car wash, tires, etc.
When 3 times a week 2 sprinters' Mercedes, completely crammed downhill, come to you, and sometimes this is not enough, you have to go with your own coffin truck (station wagon) to bring the rest).
You are not that you cannot cope, you physically cannot take it all into your own hands.
2. With regards to Exell.
When a large number of parcels have gone, it takes hours to physically add all the data to Excel itself. The option is good for the beginning. But not for high revs.
We accept parcels from Amazon. Working with UPS / DHL (depending on location)
Amazon is such a specific platform that it needs to be singled out as a separate topic everywhere. As for Amazon Europe, everything is simple, they place orders for you, you accept. You don't pay any taxes, which cannot be said about Amazon World (USA, JAPAN, CANADA and others). When shipping goods from these countries to the EU, each item is subject to tax (20% on average). This should be taken into account for lovers of Refund. Amazon automatically charges tax (adds to the order amount), and debits this amount from your card, automatically paying the customs payment in advance.
To receive parcels from Amazon, you will need a lot of addresses. Since you cannot send a parcel to 1 address more than 1 parcel, and I do not advise you to send no more than 10 parcels to 1 house (then the house falls into the "risky" zone), we use the spider-web method of receiving packs for the Amazon. For example, Warsaw has 18 districts. In each of these areas, we have an Amazon drop. Why separate drops?
But because it takes a certain amount of time to pull out the order from the one who gets it. We alternate districts, each district has a maximum of 3 house orders. In this case, after 1-1.5 months of “sleeping”, you can send it to the house further (to other apartments, of course). And we change addresses in the whole city. Fortunately, the Amazon cannot block the whole city).
Those who advise changing the address in the form "ul. XXX 5, kv. 5 "and" XXX 5 street, apt. 5 "kills the house even faster. We strongly advise against what to do. There are situations when the name and surname of the drops (i.e. Oleg / Oleh / Olegh, Drevneyy, Drevneiy, Drevneyi, etc.) are grimacing. We tried to do this - it doesn't affect refs at all (from what I see). By entering your full name in the Facebook / contact search page, you will see several more people with similar data.
And some full names give out 30, 40, 200 and more matches. If "Ivan Petrov" refunds, will all the Ivans Petrovs from the CIS end up in the Amazon blacklist? Unlikely. But work at your own discretion.
The mobile phone can be specified as a random one, but it is deliberately incorrect. (Country code, the first 3 digits of the operator, which are 100% free (for example, in Poland it is 321, 123, 987, 132, 362, etc.) The whole number for Poland looks like this: +48 321 *** ***, where * is any number from 0 to 9)
Such parcels, where the address, the name of the drop, the mobile number do not exist, in fact, can also be pulled out. Moreover, this does not apply only to the Amazon, carzh can also be taken in this way.
In UPS, such packs can be accepted only by powers of attorney, DHL - dialing (information for 2016, country Poland). For example, DHL changed the method of reception 2 times in the last month. It should be different in each country.
Here and a controversial nuance a week after this article was written, DHL closed the phone forwarding method completely. And all the fault is the pickup, so they know.
We accept parcels from USA / Canada / Asia
Many people ask whether it is realistic to send parcels from the States, Canada, Asia to Europe, where the customs limit in most countries is 22 euros. You can send such packs, but you need to find stores that allow you to pay tax from the KX card (a living example of Amazon), or stores that have warehouses in Europe.
Although faced with a problem, most stores in Asia and Australia will not pay tax for you (we have not found a single store like this). Understate the invoice - yes. Even to understate the invoice for the phone for $ 300 to 20 euros, and designate it as "6 cases, folded into bricks" - and that was. But in order to pay the tax right away - this has not been seen yet.
In the USA and Canada, it is more than realistic to find this. When your parcel is transported by DHL or UPS, you will not be able to pay tax otherwise than by transfer / cash (in 99% the courier will pay the tax for you, having previously “thrown” another $ 10 for its services), so the courier will take the demand for payment of customs duty. And of course, we are only talking about Poland.
There are countries where the tax can be paid through their own merchandise (regular ss), and even paper. This is when we say that your parcel will be stuck at customs, and the state will have to pay "directly". Of course, I do not advise anyone to pay for this with "chernukha". Do not even hope that your pack will arrive (especially if we talk about PP). Also, the drop will have serious problems after such a "payment".
I also brought carding labels to a separate point.
I found out about them not too long ago. In short: you pay for the courier service (transportation of the parcel) by carzh, they give you a label, you print it, paste it on your parcel, send it. I am not surprised that it was difficult to find any information on this account, as well as the performers.
I think this is just nonsense. What kind of Jew do you need to be in order not to pay 10-20 euros for the delivery of a parcel across the EU, and $ 30-60 for delivery from the USA (we are talking about small-sized, not heavy parcels ). This service only makes sense if you are sending very heavy and cheap stuff. The delivery of which is expensive, and you are not afraid to lose. Then it makes sense. All other uses for this servant, at least to me, are meaningless. The price tag of such a label is around $ 20, you can find craftsmen on the forums.
My advice:
- Always look for a tax payment option in (for example) US shops.
- If not, shake the support, decide with him. Because you will have to pay a lot.
- Work in the Euro zone. Goods that come from the EU countries are not taxed.
- If there is no option, then do not pay in any case with TAX payment. 50/50 will ride and reach your small pack, or substitute a drop / pack will be shut down by customs. When all that remains is to receive the long-awaited product - just make sure that you receive it, and not a headache.
Sending a pack from a drop to a client
The fastest and most expensive way to send:
- Dhl
- UPS (which, by the way, for some reason very tightly passes parcels to RU, makes people come to customs. This has already happened 2 times)
The cheapest way to send:
- Mail of the sender's country (state. Mail, which is not taxed). Compromise of price and speed of delivery:
- EMS
I sent each of these courier services, frankly, except for the speed of delivery, there is nothing different. Sometimes EMS sent packs that were apparently opened at customs, there was almost nothing left of the box, but everything was fine with the contents.
People are constantly interested, I will write what is happening with the shipment today
DHL / UPS - delivery costs $ 100 / $ 200 (air, 1-3 days)
State mail (Polish Post) / EMS - delivery costs $ 25 / $ 45
These are the minimum rates. Delivery time to MSC (5-9) / (3-7) - Polish Post / EMC, respectively.
If you plan to engage in drop farming in the future, I advise you to build a structure: the drop takes it to the warehouse, the white drop from the warehouse is engaged in mailing. Do not send from a drop that received the pack directly. Do not substitute the recipient. This is the first thing. And then you will get more problems when it happens that the drop will get the iPhone from the package and put the trash there. At the warehouse, you can always make sure yourself what has arrived.
Legalize black business: Own a small courier company in the EU
I was very much interested in this topic. I met people who were serious about it, including the former director of international parcels for the "new mail". There are a lot of nuances that I have not yet learned.
In short. If you want to start transporting parcels from EU in the CIS, you must definitely obtain a license (buy a company with it) for postal activities (you will not stand at the customs, you are allowed in a separate pass, you are not responsible for the contents of the shipments, and a dozen more privileges) ...
In the future, I think to seriously do this, but I came to the conclusion that if you have the goal of taking over the international traffic, one way or another, you need to start with a small courier service. Wait and see ..
Question answer
How do you deal with the resale of so many staff? Did you find a buyer quickly? do you sell wholesale in Poland and according to EU?
With regards to resale. There are a lot of nuances, this will already be another lecture on stingy service)
The question about the drops that receive the message already in RU, when sending from the middle of USA, is it needed in your city? Or can I send it to myself from the middle? On myself vsmysle on fictitious names?
I would not send on myself, of course. Do not forget that this is chernukha. There are a lot of texts, how they work in the middle, they are generally a separate topic, they have their own nuances. But only accept drops
