I wrote already in an earlier post, i did use escrow with the first ripper, but its useless with botnet install service, he gave me the hosting details, i could see the working panels, everything looked ok and released funds from escrow. After receiving the money he fooled arround for 2 days, told me: "U GOT RIPPED" and deleted the hosting. With the second ripper(weed) i trusted his good rep with positive feedbacks from older members like micronicro and ozuNu, that time i didnt suspect that ozuNu and weed are the same. By now at least i learned the lesson. Only way to get a working instalation is "DO IT YOURSELF" and "NEVER TRUST ANYBODY".