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Here are the logs of this ripper who ripped me for few k's infact he was gonna make like 10k outta just 1 login I would've given him. And for just 5-6k he showed his ass to prove that he is a low life jerk.

(2:26:25 AM) Panemera: hey
(2:26:32 AM) 268240831: Hi bro.
(2:27:08 AM) 268240831: I've got the account ready for u.
(2:27:12 AM) 268240831: Waiting for ur cell number.
(2:27:42 AM) Panemera: Okay good, what info do you have ready ?
(2:27:52 AM) Panemera: Do you also have card info ?
(2:28:16 AM) 268240831: SSN, DOB, login info email access.
(2:28:21 AM) 268240831: I can try to get the card info.
(2:28:30 AM) 268240831: Why do u need the check card info when ur depositing the check?
(2:28:57 AM) Panemera: Whatever we don't take from Check, we can get withdrawn
(2:29:04 AM) Panemera: whatever is left
(2:29:15 AM) 268240831: How is that possible? :/
(2:29:26 AM) 268240831: U don't have the owners track info do u ?
(2:30:04 AM) Panemera: No, card doesn't have to be present to do withdrawal just account number sometimes
(2:30:42 AM) Panemera: CC info just needed sometimes if they ask for other verification info. Not needed for checks only for withdrawals
(2:31:44 AM) 268240831: If the check will be already cleared by the insider then why would u require it for verification just curious?
(2:31:56 AM) Panemera: This is what I mean,
(2:32:01 AM) Panemera: If we have check for 30k
(2:32:07 AM) Panemera: and account have 38k
(2:32:32 AM) Panemera: check cashout is 1 cashout, the remainding 8k can be withdrawn from the account
(2:32:39 AM) Panemera: understand me now ?
(2:32:48 AM) Panemera: just to clear the whole account
(2:34:11 AM) Panemera: also I'm looking for old fulls First Name Last Name, add ssn dob dl mmn, I get phones, and Authorized users with that
(2:34:18 AM) Panemera: you know about Authorized User accounts?
(2:34:50 AM) 268240831: Like u add yourself as authorize user and cashout?
(2:36:19 AM) Panemera: Yes, like that. But instead for Cell Phone accounts, I can get 4 HTC HD2 cell phones per person on a business account
(2:36:55 AM) 268240831: I have lots of old fulls.
(2:36:59 AM) 268240831: LOADs of em.
(2:37:35 AM) 268240831: In which state are u bro?
(2:39:20 AM) Panemera: I'm in PA, but I travel all over north east,
(2:39:47 AM) 268240831: Ok bro.
(2:40:10 AM) 268240831: But I don't understand the above part of chase.
(2:40:18 AM) 268240831: How will u withdraw the rest of 8k?
(2:40:21 AM) 268240831: By what method?
(2:41:14 AM) Panemera: withdrawal
(2:41:29 AM) Panemera: he authorizes a teller withdrawal
(2:41:59 AM) 268240831: Oh ok got ur point.
(2:43:27 AM) Panemera: You have some old fulls I can add on this business account?
(2:43:43 AM) Panemera: It's 9 employees
(2:43:50 AM) 268240831: Yes I have bro.
(2:43:54 AM) 268240831: What will be my share?
(2:47:57 AM) Panemera: I'll give you 2 blackberry bold 2 or 1 HTC HD2 phone per profile or I can sell them and give you the share from that
(2:50:19 AM) 268240831: If ur getting 4 HTC's, Why not give me 2?
(2:50:49 AM) 268240831: I'm more interested in cash..How much is that HTC HD2 for?
(2:51:25 AM) Panemera: It retails for 680 , I sell them for 575
(2:52:00 AM) 268240831: Ok.
(2:52:06 AM) 268240831: So why not 2?
(2:53:14 AM) Panemera: sometimes, profiles can get 3 BB and 1 HTC , it depends on the person, whatever I get from the phone we split 50/50
(2:53:27 AM) 268240831: Ok.
(2:53:33 AM) 268240831: Bro stay honest with me thruout.
(2:53:39 AM) 268240831: If u want to work with me in a longer run.
(2:53:51 AM) 268240831: Believe me I always provided shit to US people and in the end they wasted my time.
(2:54:05 AM) Panemera: where are you from />
(2:54:06 AM) Panemera: ?
(2:54:10 AM) 268240831: Their is this guy who was lookin for chase logins with 50k+ balances he is also from PA.
(2:54:26 AM) Panemera: Yeah, i saw that thread on the forum
(2:54:28 AM) 268240831: He wasted my time and NOTHING was done no cash no nothing. Just stories.
(2:55:21 AM) 268240831: Well my words can't do anything. Whatever ur gonna do is what u gonna do anyway. I'm just saying that in this business too many time wasters have joined who take it for granted.
(2:55:58 AM) Panemera: understood
(2:56:25 AM) 268240831: Ok.
(2:56:35 AM) 268240831: Any specification for the fulls u need?
(2:56:58 AM) Panemera: First Last SSN DOB MMN DL Address
(2:57:36 AM) 268240831: Yes I know.
(2:57:48 AM) 268240831: But doesn't matter age ..sex ..location?
(2:59:09 AM) Panemera: no, doesn't matter business account from tmobile, have 9 Employee slot and 1 for owner
(2:59:38 AM) 268240831: So u need 9 profiles?
(3:00:17 AM) Panemera: yes, I can have some cash for you tomorrow afternoon
(3:00:37 AM) 268240831: GOOD.
(3:01:12 AM) 268240831: Should I paste here?
(3:01:32 AM) Panemera: yes you can paste here
(3:02:59 AM) 268240831: Ok.
(3:03:55 AM) 268240831: first_name:Rebecca, last_name:Welch, address1:3823 Atlas Drive,
city:Charlotte, state:NC, zip:28269, night_phone:704-598-7942,
ssn:287-62-5406, mmn:McElwee, dl_number:26854079, dl_state:NC, dob:01-08-1957
(3:04:10 AM) 268240831: Sorry.
(3:04:37 AM) 268240831: Wrong one pasted.
(3:04:41 AM) 268240831: I mean with a wrong DL.
(3:04:45 AM) Panemera: ok
(3:05:32 AM) 268240831: first_name:Elizabeth, last_name:Glaser, address1:28504 BIG BASIN WAY,
city:BOULDER CREEK, state:CA, zip:95006, night_phone:831-338-9863,
ssn:349-38-5699, mmn:Welsh, dl_number:AO939826, dl_state:CA, dob:08-26-1943
(3:06:25 AM) 268240831: first_name:Dave , last_name:Skarica , address1:119 Grant Blvd.,,
city:Dundas, state:, zip:L9H 4L9, night_phone:905-627-3514, ssn:514-15-2925,
mmn:Aronowicz, dl_number:s4831-15657-70927, dob:09-27-1977
(3:07:14 AM) 268240831: damn smileys came in 2nd one. U can edit em rite?
(3:07:26 AM) Panemera: Yeah np
(3:07:54 AM) 268240831: first_name:Niels, last_name:Olesen, address1:8736 Gordon St.,
city:Zeeland, state:MI, zip:49464, night_phone:616-772-1537, ssn:369-74-5996,
mmn:Butters, dl_number:O425630045542, dl_state:MI, dob:07-08-1960
(3:08:13 AM) 268240831: first_name:Colette, last_name:Massey, address1:3460 Kirkham Road,
city:Columbus, state:OH, zip:43221, night_phone:614-451-7083,
ssn:296-40-2440, mmn:Bourassa, dl_number:RR133220, dl_state:OH, dob:1-28-1957
(3:08:29 AM) 268240831: first_name:Thorburn, last_name:parker Jr, address1:5512 Rudy Lane,
city:Fredericksburg, state:VA, zip:22407, night_phone:540-710-9995,
ssn:227-64-2039, mmn:Stephenson, dl_number:T67-30-5252, dl_state:VA,
dob:12-17-1948
(3:09:40 AM) 268240831: first_name:Brian, last_name:Davies, address1:266 W. Chrystal St.,
city:Randolph, state:NJ, zip:07869, night_phone:973-989-8215,
ssn:155-86-8113, mmn:VanderDoes, dl_number:D09150967403842, dl_state:NJ,
dob:03-21-1984
(3:09:52 AM) 268240831: first_name:Walter, last_name:Wisniewski, address1:238 N Maple,
city:Gwinn, state:MI, zip:49841, night_phone:906-346-3379, ssn:367-60-1391,
mmn:KESSLER, dl_number:W252866549187, dl_state:MI, dob:03-11-1959
(3:10:04 AM) 268240831: first_name:Frank, last_name:Zellet, address1:814 Spruce Street,
city:Deerfield, state:IL, zip:60015, night_phone:847-945-7313,
ssn:330-38-2598, mmn:Gentry, dl_number:Z43026148202, dl_state:IL, dob:07-16-1948
(3:10:15 AM) 268240831: first_name:Jeff, last_name:Lustgarten, address1:p.O. Box 3402, city:Los
Angeles, state:CA, zip:90078, night_phone:310-378-4889,
ssn:560-69-5420, mmn:Topetzes, dl_number:U6034789, dl_state:CA, dob:11-06-1970
(3:10:32 AM) 268240831: Good enough? 9 infos pasted.
(3:12:46 AM) Panemera: Yes, good,You know of MetroPcS?
(3:13:32 AM) 268240831: No bro.
(3:13:34 AM) 268240831: What is it?
(3:14:41 AM) Panemera: It's a new cell phone company, they have web & data plans, I am about to get a number so we can communicate
(3:15:00 AM) 268240831: Sure get it bro.
(3:15:03 AM) 268240831: It would be better.
(3:15:18 AM) Panemera: what country you in ?
(3:15:22 AM) 268240831: I wouldn't ask for it if we had done successful business b4. People just waste my time man :(
(3:15:28 AM) 268240831: Pakistan.
(3:17:18 AM) 268240831: BTW! I have this first niagra bank, That is ONLY in NY and PA.
(3:17:24 AM) 268240831: Account has 150k in checkings.
(3:17:30 AM) 268240831: It's a personal account.
(3:17:33 AM) 268240831: Can u cash it?
(3:18:00 AM) Panemera: What info do you have for it ?
(3:18:09 AM) 268240831: login info, email access, ssn, dob.
(3:20:35 AM) Panemera: I'm not sure I have to find out from my insider if we can do something thru him, I will see him tonight and let you know
(3:20:52 AM) 268240831: Ok let me know.
(3:21:00 AM) 268240831: And get the number asap so I can provide u the chase.
(3:22:30 AM) Panemera: hold on i'm gonna activate a number in a few
(3:22:34 AM) Panemera: how long you online till ?
(3:22:48 AM) 268240831: Its like 3:22 AM here.
(3:22:56 AM) 268240831: I don't know.
(3:23:02 AM) 268240831: I might sleep anytime.
(3:24:36 AM) 268240831: And yeah the money is in LOC, We have to transfer that into checkings and then cash it out.
(3:24:59 AM) 268240831: So if ur insider can clear check, Then we can cash it 80% of the available balance.
(3:25:10 AM) Panemera: ahh, yes, that would have to be done next week then like monday or tuesday
(3:25:13 AM) 268240831: Owner only use the account ONCE every week.
(3:28:10 AM) 268240831: Np. But discuss it with ur insider too how ur gonna do this one.
(3:31:10 AM) Panemera: Congratulations ************ , Your New Number Is: **********
(3:32:41 AM) Panemera: receive?
(3:32:44 AM) 268240831: Yes got it.
(3:32:49 AM) 268240831: Can I call u on this number?
(3:33:26 AM) Panemera: Yeah it have few minutes on it right now, I have web & data plan so you can txt me mostly
(3:33:50 AM) 268240831: Do u need even minutes to receive a call?
(3:34:10 AM) Panemera: I think if you call from Pakistan
(3:34:25 AM) Panemera: international long distance, you have other country number?
(3:34:39 AM) 268240831: No bro.
(3:35:14 AM) Panemera: Also when you send login bro send 2-3 proxies
(3:35:36 AM) 268240831: U don't have a socks account?
(3:36:18 AM) Panemera: I canceled my 5socks acct when CW and call service went down
(3:36:27 AM) Panemera: cvv.me
(3:36:34 AM) Panemera: get busted look like also
(3:37:02 AM) Panemera: alot of vendors who have sites, been getting ddos and taken down
(3:37:18 AM) 268240831: True bro.
(3:37:35 AM) 268240831: Well CW was a worse forum then rest of ALL!!!
(3:38:15 AM) Panemera: Yeah, I only know of CW KuruptCC CSU, Verified RU
(3:38:27 AM) Panemera: nothing good for english speaking people
(3:38:47 AM) 268240831: Not many good people are left on forums. The ones who have good contacts they keep themeselves to themselves only and keep doing what they have been doing.
(3:38:59 AM) 268240831: Yes.
(3:39:34 AM) 268240831: Even admins nowadays scam people by creating fake nicknames, Giving it reputation and then offering something and then ripp off the money.
(3:40:15 AM) 268240831: I'm just depressed of the way ppl nowadays take this business. Not many professionals are left and the ones which are left they can't be found publicly.
(3:41:13 AM) Panemera: Even skimmer vendorr
(3:41:18 AM) Panemera: NONE..
(3:41:39 AM) Panemera: I heard of a guy name ATMS on csu, and another guy on carder.market who sell
(3:41:53 AM) Panemera: ncr skimmer, but still didn't get verified
(3:41:59 AM) Panemera: and no reviews
(3:42:17 AM) 268240831: Well forget em bro.
(3:42:24 AM) 268240831: If ur good and u can do what u can say u can.
(3:42:50 AM) 268240831: U've got yourself a good guy. Not buttering about myself but I'm straight forward and honest.
(3:43:35 AM) Panemera: We will prove each other. You have quality connects , we will make good money.
(3:43:38 AM) Panemera: You do wires yourself?
(3:43:46 AM) 268240831: No bro.
(3:43:51 AM) 268240831: I need people who can do wires.
(3:43:59 AM) 268240831: I have drops too.
(3:44:09 AM) 268240831: Or any insider who can do MT-103.
(3:44:15 AM) 268240831: That can make us millions of euros.
(3:44:55 AM) Panemera: I know, to do an MT103 in bank, you need bank manager who is willing to do it, my bank manager scared to do it
(3:45:13 AM) 268240831: Basically its just a MESSAGE.
(3:45:16 AM) 268240831: Not the actual cash.
(3:45:20 AM) 268240831: It's just instruction.
(3:45:27 AM) 268240831: We give it value and get cash.
(3:45:51 AM) 268240831: On 1-way we get 10-15% on the face value which is incremental depending upon if its done from ordinary bank or prime bank.
(3:46:26 AM) 268240831: On 2-way we get 80-100% on the face value which too depends on the bank whether its done from ordinary or prime bank.
(3:47:21 AM) Panemera: I will talk to my insider about what we can do tonight,
(3:47:55 AM) 268240831: That thing is everlasting.
(3:47:58 AM) Panemera: and let you know, also let me know when you send the login
(3:48:10 AM) Panemera: to the email*
(3:48:36 AM) 268240831: How about I send it to you tomorrow after I get paid from you? Would that be ok for u?
(3:49:20 AM) Panemera: I wanted to go over it tonight with my insider, don't work again till tuesday, and checks don't cash on saturday
(3:50:22 AM) Panemera: Tuesday - Friday manager works, from 8-4pm
(3:50:41 AM) 268240831: I know bro. U can go over it tomorrow can u? Cause after receiving something from you tomorrow, I'd be pretty much comfortable doin business with u.
(3:52:20 AM) Panemera: I can go over it tomorrow but it will most likely be after I deal with phones, it's time consuming bro. I have him ready to have cash for you Saturday morning as we agreed yesterday
(3:53:09 AM) Panemera: I rather deal with the Chase than the Fulls first if you want to do it like that bro, Fulls worth under 5k, we're making over 10k each
(3:53:20 AM) 268240831: U just said above that tomorrow u will have cash for me from these phones.
(3:54:27 AM) Panemera: [17:59] Nile: So u need 9 profiles? [18:00] 561076640: yes, I can have some cash for you tomorrow afternoon [18:00] Nile: GOOD.
(3:54:43 AM) Panemera: yes bro tommorow afternoon, which is after banking hours bro
(3:55:11 AM) Panemera: I send cash from the Phones tommorow, and the cashotu next day
(3:55:37 AM) 268240831: Bro you WILL get chase from me. Don't worry. I have a botnet.
(3:55:50 AM) 268240831: Lots of chase then u can possibly think.
(3:55:57 AM) 268240831: It's a huge botnet I've setup'd.
(3:56:06 AM) 268240831: So logins is NO ISSUE!!!!
(3:56:35 AM) Panemera: Bro, I have my insider meeting with me tonight, just because you told me we'd be good for today.
(3:57:29 AM) 268240831: We're good. Just waiting to see the outcome tomorrow bro. U can meet him tomorrow as well.
(3:58:10 AM) Panemera: I'll have to meet up with him after work
(3:58:21 AM) Panemera: and the account won't even be touched till tuesday
(3:58:43 AM) 268240831: Np bro. U will have the account then and we both will have trust for each other.
(4:00:58 AM) Panemera: Who sells Chase on the forum ?
(4:01:22 AM) 268240831: No idea bro. Never needed to purchase logins.
(4:02:21 AM) Panemera: Ok, I'll deal with the phones tommorow. Don't worry about the login anymore.
(4:03:12 AM) 268240831: lol
(4:03:21 AM) 268240831: Why are u getting pissed? :)
(4:04:21 AM) 268240831: It's not the 3rd or 4th time we're doin business. We're doin it for the VERY 1ST time and obviously I would want to see something solid from your side and that will increase my comfort level of doin business with u.
(4:05:57 AM) Panemera: I told him I'll have something ready for him, from when you let me know balance and type of account, I was to have account from earlier today. but No phone, you told me get phone, I activate new number. all to have the account to show him tonight.
(4:06:33 AM) Panemera: It's ok bro, I'll deal with the phones from you but I have to get logins elsewhere. I do what I say, when I say I'm going to do it.
(4:07:51 AM) Panemera: I tell my guy we're good for today be ready to clear check for me in the morning, and now I tell him I have account for after he gets off work. how would you think ?.
(4:08:00 AM) Panemera: It's not your problem, just saying.
(4:09:45 AM) 268240831: I understand. But u have to understand my position as well.
(4:14:53 AM) Panemera: ok


I request admin to please give this low lifer a ripper status and ban him immediately. Although I know he will join this forum with another nick and continue to ripp off as he does because thats in his blood.
 
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Panemera

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I didn't get to add the profiles to the business acct as planned, because I needed more info than what I got for the fulls, I didn't know I needed extra info (previous income/employer). If I gotten the extra info I needed was to be done on Friday the next time for me to add the accts would have been tomorrow (granting I got the extra info I needed to add), but I see the fulls are already posted here, so obviously they're dead. I didn't get in contact with nile that day to let him know I needed more info to add the accounts, which is my fault. I was busy doing other things.

Admin & Mods, I don't know your take on the situation, no profit was made from the fulls,nor was I able to add them to the business account.simple. Whatever your judgement it's understood.
 

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Truley I disagree because u break ur committment and stop making lame excuses now that fulls are dead, They were all good and perfect UNTIL I posted em and that was on the end of Saturday when I've gotten no possible update from you. You were busy doing everything else? Why not busy doing everything now when ur posted on blacklist? :) Well anyways the fact still remains is that u couldn't do what u say u could. PERIOD!!! And I feel better that I didn't gave u a chase log cause I KNOW that you would eventually come up with excuses like these.
 

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panemera, Forensic is Nile?
 

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yes thats him. he is a ripper.
nile = lordcash = and bullshit load of nicknames. I was ripped by boa login by him.
 
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