Name: w.utransfers ICQ: 605007 & 623517595

[sk8er]

ICQ: MAIN: 623517595 then he told me he have a new one: 605007

w.utransfers
http://www.carder.market/member.php?u=57664

CASE: He ripped me because he didn't send to me my stuff as we agreed(Ipod and Apple TV = 270£ Both & Nikon Nikon D3100 377£) + he took all the rest stuff for free when we agreed at beginning that he'll pay 50% for it.

Jean Paul 64F - dispatched BIA49602
Ipod Touch 8GB - dispatched CGZ78426
apple tv-dispatched CGZ76873

PS: All tracking numbers can be tracked on www.city-link.co.uk
11:10:45 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
any?
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just woke up
11:37:45 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
ok
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Track BIA52362 - issey 64.45f
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watch lock
11:40:03 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
city link
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yes
11:41:29 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
maybe he cant get watch
11:41:31 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
:-(
11:42:10 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
instead of watch for 300 then , u get me last 3 links i sent u
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yes
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i gave him everything
11:42:36 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
ok
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if you want i can ask for screen
11:42:56 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
no i trust u bro
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to show you order with watch cnacelled
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he ccan provide if i ask
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ok
11:49:34 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
no i trust u bro
11:49:38 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
its no big deal
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I sent you a file through imo: https://imo.im/fd/F/CNC4zKiLKk/ScreenPrint 233.jpg
12:12:33 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
shipment turned up now
12:13:47 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
u want me to ship your 2 items today ?
12:13:58 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
or wait
12:14:04 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
till other items aravie
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can you ship them today?
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with royalmail special delivery
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to receive them tomorrow?
12:21:25 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
you pay for shipping?
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we'll deduct from your money
12:23:51 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
what you mean ?
12:25:10 309230239
when you'll send money for your stuff, you'll send me without money you'll pay for shipping
12:25:53 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
money for what stuffs?
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for your orders, you have to pay 50%
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from price
12:26:35 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
no deal was 1.1
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yes, one for you one for me
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i'm paying for my stuff
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you pay for your
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what's sense then to buy 200gbp stuff for you
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200 for mee
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and i have to pay him 200gbp
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when i can siple buy with my cc my stuff for 200
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check history
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23:46:29 lakota - PayPal so can i choose what i want ? 23:46:38 me yes 23:46:48 me one for you at 50% one for me 23:46:59 me and i'll tell you where to send my stuff 23:47:00 me later 23:47:12 lakota - PayPal ok hold on let me check site
12:28:25 309230239
one for you at 50% one for me
12:34:33 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
we agreed 1.1
12:35:07 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
u get orders for my orders?
12:35:14 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
no 50% price?
12:35:55 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
u here
12:37:41 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
bro answer i needto go
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yes
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i'm here
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i copy/paste from history
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what we agreed
12:38:15 309230239
12:27:09 me what's sense then to buy 200gbp stuff for you 12:27:10 me 200 for mee 12:27:19 me and i have to pay him 200gbp 12:27:30 me when i can siple buy with my cc my stuff for 200
12:39:15 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
no thats not what we agreed
12:39:19 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
we agredd 1.1.
12:39:38 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
you use my drop for your stuff and for using my drop i get my stuff
12:40:33 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
if you had that agreement with your guiy thats your problem but that wasnt our agreement
12:43:08 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
bro
12:45:23 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
listen bro i need to go out i will be back on later to sort it out with u
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i'm now back
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why you're telling me new conditions now
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when we have in history what we agreed for?
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i never told you somethinb about agreement with my guy..
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we only spoke about your and my stuff
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and in history you can see our discussion
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12:27:33 me check history 12:28:12 me 23:46:29 lakota - PayPal so can i choose what i want ? 23:46:38 me yes 23:46:48 me one for you at 50% one for me 23:46:59 me and i'll tell you where to send my stuff 23:47:00 me later 23:47:12 lakota - PayPal ok hold on let me check site 12:28:25 me one for you at 50% one for me
14:42:09 309230239
what means this?



11/8/2012:

15:53:44 309230239
hello
17:52:42 309230239
why you don't answer me ??
19:36:05 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
hey im back sorry been busy
19:37:30 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
when you say one for you at 50% and one for you this means 50/50
19:37:33 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
same as 1.1
19:38:54 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
u think i wud send u so many links if i thought i was paying 50% of cost
19:45:47 309230239
one phone for you at 50%...what means..
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half of phone for you or what..
19:46:12 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
bro that wasnt my underdtanding of the agreement
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i didn't say that one item for you for free and one for me
19:46:27 309230239
i said one for me, one for you at 50%...
19:46:37 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
the undersatanding was you was using 1 of my drops for to send me and to send u i then send on yours
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what's the sense for me to pay 100% for stuff?
19:47:28 309230239
to send you at 50%...very clear wrote...
19:47:29 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
what you mean
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if he have to do 200gbp for you
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which you'll not pay
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and 200 for me..
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i have stuff for 200gbp and have to pay him 200gbp..
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so, what's sense?
19:48:13 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
you never told me in deal this
19:48:35 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
you never mentioned you had to pay him other wise i would of understood what you are saying about me paying half of item
19:48:36 309230239
ok..maybe i didn't explained very well
19:48:43 309230239
now you dont want more stuff at 50%?
19:49:08 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
no bro i dont want to pay 50% i only want 50/50 deals same as 1.1
19:49:17 309230239
received t-shirt today
19:49:32 309230239
i'm not interested to pay 100% for stuff...
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will you ship my stuff now?
19:49:58 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
who received tshoirt
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you receied it?
19:50:17 309230239
he called me that it was dispatched..but he left yesterday
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and will come on monday
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to give me track
19:50:45 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
drop hasent said received anything bro no
19:50:50 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
so maybe come monday now
19:51:43 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
i will post your apple tv and ipod monday ok
19:51:45 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
all shut now
19:51:51 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
and tommorow no post
19:52:53 309230239
ok
19:53:03 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
give me drop address tommorow
19:53:06 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
what country
19:53:11 309230239
uk
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tomorrow will give you details..
19:53:43 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
ok so we cant do deal on 1.1 in future/
19:53:45 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
?
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no
19:55:28 309230239
i can simple buy for me using my cc at 100%
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why to disturb you in this way
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if i'm paying 100%
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anyway..
19:56:36 309230239
if you want to pay at least 30%...we can do 700 for me, 300 for you in this way...
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but it's not worthing more than 50%...
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for me


12/8/2012

00:53:08 309230239
so?
00:53:23 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
so what bro?
01:38:28 309230239
are you interested in stuff, but to pay for it

13:57:12 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
bro no only 1.1 was hoping we can deal this way as this is how i thought we was dealing anyway
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no
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will ask him if he ydid something yesterda
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and that's will be all..
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will let you know
15:24:41 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
ok
19:05:03 309230239
here?
19:05:14 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
yh
19:05:40 309230239
can you give me one saving for verifiing one paypal account i did for my self..
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will not witdhraw funds on it..
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need it only to deposit that two small amounts
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and to have paypal account verified
19:06:23 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
all my drops are being used at the minute bro
19:06:43 309230239
ok
19:07:10 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
but i will have mor ein week please remind me in week i will sort it out for u
19:07:49 309230239
ok
19:08:48 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
so after i send ure items u dont want to deal no more ? :-(
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with stuff drop?
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how much you want from me to pay you for my stuff you'll receive?
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1 for you for free and one for me it's not worthing
19:10:26 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
thats what 1.1 is for to use drops
19:10:35 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
this is how most are my deals are
19:31:55 309230239
guys i worked till now was 50:50 but they paid for their stuff
19:46:06 309230239
you can simple pay 80 for ipod and sell it the same day on ebay for 150 like example
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and you don't have nothing to loose
19:46:41 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
i dont sell stuff on ebay bro
19:46:50 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
to much fees and attention e.t.c
19:49:18 309230239
you can sell where you want it..
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it was like example..
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but for free, that guy is not interested..and i'm willing to pay 100% for stuff..

13/8/2012

00:29:03 309230239
so, if you want 200gbp stuff for free and 800 for me we can still work...or if you want 50:50 but you'll have to pay 50% for your stuff
00:29:37 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
bro i want 1.1
00:31:33 309230239

23:21:50 309230239
hello
23:21:51 309230239
here?
23:34:47 309230239
what you exactly need?
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here?
can't do in this way
00:31:34 309230239
already explained
00:32:08 309230239
00:29:03 me so, if you want 200gbp stuff for free and 800 for me we can still work...or if you want 50:50 but you'll have to pay 50% for your stuff
00:32:14 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
yes because there is 3 people in the deal it cant work
00:49:00 309230239
in what i offered not interested?
01:14:05 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
no bro im here to make money not spend it lol

13:18:41 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
u here
13:18:52 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
no shirt today either
15:05:22 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
u here
15:18:47 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
bro u here
15:18:54 lakota - PayPal UK Drops Banks & Address
i have sumone to buy cc from u

14/8/2012

21:46:16 309230239
here?
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why you don't answer me?
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i see you received items
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why you told you didnt?
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+++++++++++++++ Order number - 28917010 Hackett London Multi - Total: ?126.95 Date order placed - 10.08.12 +++++++++++++ ------------- Track ; ------------- Order number - 28935940 Lyle & Scott Sutherland - Total: ?116.95 Date order placed - 11.08.12 ------------- Track cgz85362 ; ------------- ++++++++++++++++ Order number - 28939403 Nikon D3100 - Total: ?376.90 Date order placed - 12.08.12 ------------- Track: CGZ86419 ;
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where are you??

1/8/2012
10:04:19 309230239
hello
11:14:38 309230239
why you don't answer me anymore??
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so??
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online/offline and no reply??
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why??
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here now?
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or you ripped me and do not answer anymore??
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if i'll not receive reply today, will have to post our conversation on c.pro....
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so let me know...

16/8/2012 - 20/8/12

So, the same thing eveyrday now and no reply!

 

[Ninja]

w.utransfers
Im looking for your reply.

 

[w.utransfers]

firstly after stuff received he started asking me for 50% of the value wich wasnt in the deal but he said was , even if it was wich it wasnt it wasnt explained clearly my impression was deal was 1.1 1 for me 1 for him ,
secondly things went tits up so i cannot send not thing as nothing to send as drop got arrested with the stuff not just his share everything, so to simplify it there aint nothing i can send 1 of those shit things that happens i havent been on icq to tell him this as 100% he wont beleive me so just left it thats my reply so down to you ninja

 

[sk8er]

firstly after stuff received he started asking me for 50% of the value wich wasnt in the deal but he said was , even if it was wich it wasnt it wasnt explained clearly my impression was deal was 1.1 1 for me 1 for him ,
secondly things went tits up so i cannot send not thing as nothing to send as drop got arrested with the stuff not just his share everything, so to simplify it there aint nothing i can send 1 of those shit things that happens i havent been on icq to tell him this as 100% he wont beleive me so just left it thats my reply so down to you ninja

1st you told me that already have stuff on 11 of august when asked address to send it to me...so how now was drop arrested???

2nd you never tried to explain what happend but simple didn't answer me anymore

even if you didn't paid for stuff i made for you, when from conversation i specified every detail, and you agreet, you took my stuff also and how drop was arrested if you start not to answer to my messages on 13 august, but some items was delivered on 14-15 august and the same person signed for it.

It smells like a story for kids...

 

[w.utransfers]

i never said drop got arested before 15 augst ? stuff was kept in drop for sending, drop was going to send your stuff , what smells like kid story ???? u think shit like this never happens ? u think everything always goes 100% smooth with no troubles. most of time yes but this time it didnt maybe it is my fault for keeping the stuff at drop address but i have always done it this way and thats my way its easy for me to say i shud have done this or shudnt have done that now but its done why would i rip you for such small £££ items ? makes no sense

 

[w.utransfers]

Ninja please solve this issue thankyou

 

[Ninja]

Im waiting for logs for begning.
Because i dont get nature of ur deal.
And mark by RED important parts of logs.
Thank you.

 

[w.utransfers]

i do not keep logs ninja

---------- Сообщение добавлено в 01:41 PM ---------- Предыдущее сообщение размещено в 01:29 PM ----------

The deal was ( this was to my understanding ) he used my drop to send stuffs 50.50 1.1 wateva you want to call it so 1 item for me and 1 for him , items was sent , now when i received items i then found out there was another person in on deal and that he was expecting me to pay 50% of the price wich wasnt my understanding " why would i let him use my drop to send his stuff for free and i pay 50% of mine . he then tells me he has to pay his guy 50% of price wich i was unaware there was another guy in on the deal or even i had to pay anything, so i explained to him on icq that this wasnt the deal or if it was it wasnt my understanding that i had to pay any money and that it was 1.1, we spoke a little and he said maybe he didnt explain the deal properly, so i toild the drop to keep stuff there untill all shipments have stopped and that we will send his stuff and keep our stuff as this is the 1.1 deal i agreed to .i then get a call 2 days later saying more stuff had arrived then around 40 minutes later his girlfriend calls to tell me drop has been arrested so what am i suppose to do ? i was intending to do my part of the deal i had aggreed to . but now there is nothing for me to send to him ? as i said i dont have logs maybe he has logs from begining im not sure

 

[w.utransfers]

sk8er sort this out post earlier logs for ninja as i dont have

 

[w.utransfers]

ninja he has not been online for 4 days now so is there a way we can sort this out as i dont really want this under my name thanks

 

[Ninja]

w.utransfers
You want it solved? And u're in hurry? If so - i can make my decision now. Looking for your answer.

 

[w.utransfers]

yes i do want it solved ninja the way you answered me is obvious to me that your are going to ban me as a ripper wich is not the case but if thats your descision then you do what you got to do but ive told all i have to tell the othe rguy has not been on to show any more logs

 

[sk8er]

Logs provided are sufficient i think for a fair decision. There is exactly described situation as it was. So, if you ripped me and want to have issue solved, give me stuff what belongs to me, ipods, camera and rest of them...or if you already sold them, got arrested, or are playing with them, give me money for that items. So, i did my job, and shipped stuff as we agreed, but you didn't respect our deal!

 

[w.utransfers]

drop got arrested with stuff like i have already said so i wont be paying for any items , also the deal was that i didnt pay for my items anyway but u descided to change the deal after if i remember rightly me and you are not going to reslove this as
firstly you changed the deal after the deal had been made
secondly you want stuff that i dont have
thirdly im not going to pay for the stuff that my drop got arrested with
so it has to be down to ninja to descide.

 

[sk8er]

don't speak about changed deal...i explained, and now you're telling that you didn't understand, and i left it and asked for my stuff only then and now...so, the problem is my stuff and if you don't want to give it to me, you should be marked as ripper and banned here to save at least other guys from rippers and that's all!

 

[w.utransfers]

sk8er but i have not ripped you so why should i be branded as a ripper when i am not i understand you feel i ripped you the argument here is not the missunderstanding about the deal but about the drop getting arrested with the stuff so i am unable to send to you and not prepared to pay for the stuffs because of that no on was to blame for what happened so i should get branded as a ripper why ? i have been on the forum for some time not long but a little while and done deals with people with no problems before i have no reason to rip anyone

 

[Ninja]

w.utransfers
Since you dont have logs and proof showing what u're right and all i see from u is talks - u have 48hr to fix this issue by refund or negotiating with him about sending stuff to him.

 

[w.utransfers]

well if ure asking for charge sheet of drop being arrested it aint going to happen lol and dont have stuff to send him as like i said polide have all stuff

 

[sk8er]

Pay money if you don't have stuff already, probably because you sold it...and end this stories. You should be responsible for what you promised and it doesn't matter if someone was or not arrested because deal was between me and you and not someone else...so you have to answer for this...
Ninja, i think you have to save other guys from being ripped by this "trusted" user and ban him forever!

 

[w.utransfers]

sk8er i think you are lucky i cannot get the logs for the convos as it will be clear to all that you didnt keep to your end of the deal and started changing the deal
and if i am going to be banned because my drop got arrested and i wont pay you then so be it