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• Today's guest, the creator of the Medusa stealer, will talk about his business, his experience, and give interesting advice for beginners! Enjoy reading!
• Interviewer: TalkTheScam
• Respondent: MedusaSupport
• Date of interview: 04/21/2024
Me - Hi, introduce yourself!
G - Good afternoon!
Meduza support
Me - How old are you? Where are you from? What do you do and how long have you been doing it? How did you come to this?
G - Already old. CIS territory.
My team and I have been engaged in programming, creating custom and rental software for over 6 years. I have been programming for over 10 years.
I will take responsibility for speaking for all members of the Meduza team; we came to this in approximately the same way - interest. The white sphere is not as exciting as the dark one, bypassing security systems, developing unique techniques, the eternal struggle with IB specialists. This makes you work and move forward every day!
Me - Why Stealers? And why Medusa? Is there any subtext to this?
G - Stealer is the most popular and understandable product on the market, we are engaged in development in various areas, checkers, brutes, BotNet, android rat.
Meduza is taken from ancient Greek mythology, there is no special subtext in this name. To understand us and our thinking better, you can watch the video we have prepared: https://t.me/MeduzaDevelop/23
Me - What is the most dangerous malware you have made? Where would you put stealers? Have you ever had to hack someone personally?
G - It depends on what criteria you use to evaluate "dangerous software".
If you look at the number of infections and the profit received - android rat.
If you look at the potential damage - Ransomware.
I do not consider stealer to be a particularly dangerous malware, to protect yourself from it, it is enough to know the simplest principles of Internet security.
Personally, I do not, like the Meduza team - yes, they attacked:
Me - Have you heard about the Hive Rat situation? Aren't you afraid of the same fate? Are you afraid of being detained? What do you do for your own safety?
G - Detentions of malware developers are a constant occurrence.
Being afraid of detention in our business is like being afraid of death, it is inevitable, but it can be delayed)
Seriously, everyone in our field is responsible for their own security. Everyone has their own connections and secrets. Unfortunately, I can't tell you my secrets. But maybe we can somehow make a detailed post on the channel about what we use, recommend using, etc.
Me - It would be interesting to read what stealer creators use.
The process of creating a stealer, why is it so difficult? What are the costs in time and money?
G - The stealer itself is quite a complex software compared to other common ones, many are mistaken, thinking that the same BotNet is much harder to write than a stealer, everything is accurate, but the opposite.
In terms of time, it all depends on the person, someone will manage in a couple of days, someone will do it for a month.
In terms of money, there are no costs for writing the stealer itself. Project development, advertising, deposits, these are expenses.
Me - How much was spent on developing the project? What difficulties did you encounter? Did the project pay for itself?
G - Oh, I didn’t honestly count how much was spent.
There was one difficulty, at the beginning of the journey they took it for Aurora.
For us, the project is first and foremost not money, but a lifestyle, we are passionate about it, we are doing it and will continue to do so!
Me - Do you work or have you worked in the CIS? How do you feel about this? What do you think of other software developers? Have they tried to put a spoke in your wheels?
G - No, we do not work in the CIS. We
are neutral about this, everyone works where they consider it safe. We must never forget "who works on ru, they come to him in the morning"
We respect them, their products, work and time spent, we are always happy to talk and do something together with colleagues!
Of course we tried, as one of the developers put it "usual work on competitors", we do not hold a grudge, we hope that this incident will not happen again.
Me - Tell us more about the incident!
G - To be honest, I would not like to raise this topic, who knows, he understood.
Me - I will leave a link for those who will be interested to read at the end of the interview.
What is the largest amount of profit using your software? Would you like to exit scam and go completely white?
G - Regarding profits, confidential information, we do not ask users about their earnings.
No, as I said above, for us this is a way of life, we do not plan to leave here.
General answers, so as not to disclose a lot of information about ourselves and clients, I hope you understand us
Me - What is your attitude towards pav? Have you ever used it? What is your attitude towards cigarettes and alcohol?
G - Pav - very negative. There are a lot of other joys in life. Drinking is the end, only white slippers are left.
Alcohol, cigarettes - neutral.
Me - How do your family, relatives feel about what you do? Has their attitude towards you changed?
G - I don’t even share what I do with my close circles.
Me - What do you do in your free time? Do you play sports? Do you play games? Movies, books, anime, TV series?
G - In my free time, I write stories. It calms me down, helps me escape from problems and unnecessary thoughts.
From time to time, our whole team goes to the gym, plays football, volleyball, chess, spends our free time instead.
Sometimes I go there.
Books yes, movies, TV series very rarely, it’s too late for me to watch anime, it’s more for the young.
Me - Have they tried to scam, de-anonize, matchmake?
G - Scamming yes, deanonymizing, matchmaking, I think so, but if I'm talking to you now, I don't think it worked out.
Me - Tell me how it was, and what mistakes are best avoided.
What do you spend your income on? Is there anything else you're interested in that you'd like to start? Have you thought about moving on to another topic, like hacking, etc.?
G - Check everything 10 times in official and only official sources, tried to sell nft, almost fell for drainer
Income for living, apartment, food, hobbies, recreation.
I'm interested in programming, I try to develop in all areas.
Personally, I haven't thought about it, we often change the areas of activity of some people from the team.
Me - Are there any white projects? What areas are relevant now? What would you advise to study, develop?
G - I won't talk about white ones with your permission.
Studying - programming as the area closest to me.
Me - Do you read books, manuals? If so, which ones? Can you give one book on your topic of work and one that you really like?
G - History-of-REvil
Master_your_own_C++_in_21_days_Siddhartha_Rao
Ethical_hacking_A_Practical_guide_to_hacking_2022
Kompyuternye_seti
Hacking. The Art of Exploit. 2nd edition [2018] John Erickson
I would also like to highlight the book: The Art of Being Invisible ( Rumor has it that it was never possible to find out who wrote this book
)Me - What a set
By the way, how do you dress? What is your setup? What accessories do you have (PC, phone, headphones, watch, jewelry)?
G - As simple and unnoticeable as possible "ordinary person"
Average PC, i7, 3070, 32 RAM.
iPhone phone (I trust it more in terms of security).
The watch is good, I can't say the exact brand for obvious reasons, I don't wear jewelry, only a cross. Believer.
Me - What are your plans for the next 5 years?
G - To do what I'm doing now, open auxiliary projects, lnk builder, develop the theme of high-quality crypto from us, release BotNet
Me - What do you think about today's youth (14 and up)? What advice would you give? What life experience would you like to share with our readers?
G - 1. Keep your head at home.
2. Move forward, try to do something new, interesting.
3. Listen to yourself, don't follow the system and what people say around you.
4. Be, not seem to be.
Me - And a couple of last questions. Although I myself don't want to finish the interview, since you are a very useful and experienced person)
How do you feel about TalkTheScam? And will you show your crypto wallet?
G - I have a good attitude towards your editorial team!
Unfortunately, I won't show you the crypto wallet for security reasons.
Me - And finally.
What are you leaving with? Who would you say hello to? What is your strength?
G - I'm leaving with responsibility for everything I've said
To everyone who reads TalkTheScam
Strength...
I'd be inclined to say, as they said in the wonderful film Brother, "strength is in truth, whoever has the truth is stronger."
Me - Thank you very much for your time and honest answers.
As promised, I'll leave a link to the incident. Hugs to everyone, and don't forget to subscribe!
