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Greetings to all, my username is Binary and I am the admin of the Legends For Carding channel. Today I have prepared for you an extremely interesting interview with a man whose life is on the federal wanted list for cybercrime.
So let's get started
B - Binary
P - Pavel
B - Hi, please introduce yourself.
P - Hello everyone, my name is Pavel.
B - Okay, Pavel, tell me what happened to you.
P - I'm on the federal wanted list for cybercrime.
B - How did this happen, who were you before you met the shadow sphere, and what made you take this step?
P - I worked as a regular admin in an IT company. The salary is not high, but it was enough to live on. I lived with my mother, at that time I was only 21 years old.
P - Just a background. My best friend from high school, Denis, worked with me at the firm. The only thing that bothered me was that he didn't think about anything else but money. In addition to his main job, he worked part-time on the darknet, earning several times more than I did, but we never discussed this. He thought I didn't know. But I knew.. I only heard about the darknet, but I was never interested in black schemes, and I was happy with my own life.
I met a girl, Lena, with whom I fell deeply in love. I spent my entire salary on her, because I wanted to give her a good life. I wanted to marry her, so I asked her to marry me. All according to the standard scheme: fell in love, wedding, children, apartment and stable work with a credit machine. Somewhere in the back of my mind, this is exactly what I wanted.
But I understood that I had nothing but savings of 250,000 rubles and a salary of 25,000.
And here we come to the answer to your question. One day, an accident happened...
Lena was returning home late at night and was hit by a car, all my money was spent on treatment. I took out a loan in the amount of 400,000 rubles secured by an apartment. The doctors said that she would have to learn to walk again.
One evening I was sitting in the kitchen, drinking vodka and thinking about how I should go on living... All funds are spent, the loan is hanging, the salary is small.
I thought about making extra money, and working on the darknet, which was taboo for me, began to attract. But I absolutely did not want to do this and went freelance, collecting 65k there for two months of work. I worked like a slave, and that was fine with me.
There was a crisis not only in my country, but also in the whole country. Many of them were cut, and I was one of them.
And it was on that day that my life changed...
I decided to meet Denis. At that time, he said, he was working with "serious" people. He knew my situation and told me about his "colleagues".
The guys were stuck in the 90s, they were involved in money laundering, and Denis was required to secure the entire scheme. I immediately refused such a job, despite my difficulties.
Denis suggested an alternative – he will give me an order for writing software and pay in cash. The essence of the software was to upgrade at that time a malicious program called "Citadel".
It took me about a week to study the information, and two more weeks to write the software. I was then given 120,000 rubles. I was amazed: this is many times more than I received.
And then I opened the door to the darknet for myself
Like an obedient dog, I began to run all his errands. I programmed for it for days and earned a lot of money. I closed the loan a long time ago.
For a year of such a life, I collected about a million rubles. At that time, it seemed - "the life of malin". I was already so caught up in this game that I just didn't give a damn. I stopped thinking about the consequences. There is a technical specification - I will issue a solution. And for the rest I don't care, the main thing is money .
The Darknet ate me from the inside out
I didn't do anything but work. Lena and I broke up, she learned to walk, was completely healthy. But love was no longer there, why? Because I loved the darknet. I worked for days without leaving my apartment. At that moment, I felt rich.
But there was still something missing. Appetites have changed. I no longer dressed at the market, but in boutiques, and saved up for an apartment. It would seem that everything went as it should, but the darknet just swallowed me up.
One day I decided to leave it
Six months have passed since my final decision to leave the darknet. And every week I kept telling myself that I was definitely going to leave. I'm really caught up in this game.
Denis suggested starting his own programming company: fulfill white orders, pay taxes, and live like normal people. We've raised quite a lot of money. Why not? We must go to the white life!
But in secret from Denis, I stayed on the darknet, stayed and took orders.
Opening a company
We rented an office, made repairs, and opened an individual entrepreneur. We have gained momentum. I then thought about leaving the darknet completely. But after working on the darknet for a few years, I've developed a criminal mindset. I kept wanting to cross the line of the law, it was like the adrenaline I was missing.
As time went on, I devoted 70% of my time to my company, and 30% of my time to shadow business. He founded a team of programmers, and we were engaged in the development and implementation of malicious software.
Subsequently, I bought 50% of the company from Denis and became the sole owner of the company. He started working in the consulting industry. At his request, I administered his servers personally.
One evening, Denis asked for an audit of one server. I checked everything without a second thought, printed out the necessary data for him. We had coffee and he left.
How wrong I was at that moment...
I thought that I had bent the system, but it turned out that they had bent me. After all, that day I went to his server from my work PC, leaving traces of connections...
After a while, I was relaxing at home with a new girlfriend. We drank wine and laughed. A knock on the door... I look through the peephole – the "Open up, we need Pavel Last Name and Patronymic".
I'm on the 9th floor, with nowhere to run. I realized that it was all because of Denis. After all, I went to the server and left my data. Denis knows about my activities in the shadow sphere. There was only one conclusion-he framed me and turned me in.
And then the knocking turned into insistent knocks on the door...
Life flashed before my eyes. Is it time to take responsibility for your actions?
I waited until they were gone.
B - Please tell me, what were your next steps?
P - I packed my things, having previously called my friend Andrey from the IT department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs from my friend's number. We agreed to dock.
By the evening we met, I didn't show it at first, but then I decided to tell him about my story. He promised to find out what was going on in the morning and give me all the information. We agreed to meet at the same cafe tomorrow. As it turned out-in vain.
The next day, Andrey gave me absolutely all the information. The fact is that I am accused of money laundering. I was speechless after saying that. I've never been associated with this field! I turned it down when it was offered to me... I had a lot of questions, and I didn't even think about what I was saying. Andrey listened carefully and probably memorized everything.
B - How come you were charged with money laundering?
P - Denis wrote that he is a pawn, and the brain of the scheme is me. The whole legend was thought out a long time ago. When Denis was a co-founder of my company, some sums were just being cashed out through the company. And then Andrey told me that I had to run, far away and for a long time... Without finishing the sentence, he said that I was wanted.
B - What else did a certain "Andrey" say to you that was useful?
P - He taught me the course of a young fighter: buy a hand-held phone, a SIM card, do not get in touch with your family, do not shine your passport, do not go to relatives, leave only by bus, throw away your personal phone and computer too.
B - What was your mental state when you found out that you were wanted?
P - I've developed paranoia.. I thought every cop knew me by sight and would stop me.
B - What did you do after the advice of "Andrey"?
P - Had to take public transport to my girlfriend's place.
I dressed well, shaved, and cleaned up. I went to the bus station. I bought a ticket to another region. I was supposed to be there in 9 hours. When I arrived, I looked around and chose a bus to another city, near the sea. I wanted to go there. Departure time is 6 hours.
The police are all over the station, so it's scary to stay here, to put it mildly. I took a taxi to a polite citizen named Vazgen, who drove me to the mall. There I bought a suitcase and more business-style clothes. As a result, he looked like a businessman who had arrived on a business trip.
After a couple of hours, I went to a city by the sea, at the other end of the geography, away from my native region. Upon arrival, I bought a newspaper about renting apartments and called a realtor. We made an appointment.
P - Turned out to be a nice, middle-aged woman. I introduced myself and told my legend that I had arrived on a business trip for 3 months. Since I looked neat and "rich", no one asked any unnecessary questions. We went to the apartment, clean, nice, with a sea view. Price 17000r. I've paid, we're drawing up a contract, and it's time for them to look at my passport. Then I got nervous, but I didn't show it. Everything went quite calmly and quickly.
I stayed in my apartment for twenty-four hours and didn't go out. I should get a laptop and buy something to eat.
The depression was eating me up inside.
I'm alone in the city, I don't know anyone. I got a laptop, it became somehow more fun. I read a lot about my article, about the search, about the methods of the police.
B - Since you've had some experience, would you like to give some tips for your subscribers?
P - Yes, of course:
B - What were your next steps?
P - Didn't communicate with anyone, didn't go into the darknet. I started playing sports, lost more than 10 kg in 2 months and looked good.
It was a good thing I had the money. You can't hide without them. Every day I thought about how to get home and deal with the police. Maybe a bribe? Probably, the amount there will be at least 3-4 million rubles. I have less than half of that money with me, and the other half is hidden in my hometown. It is necessary to drive back... Then I will definitely be locked up in a pre-trial detention center.
My thoughts were eating me up inside
It was a bit hot outside, and the wind was cool from the sea. I decided to walk along the embankment and think about my future plans. I drank 200 grams of vodka beforehand. Unexpectedly, I wandered into a local party.
The contingent, to put it mildly, leaves much to be desired. There I met a group of guys. We started to relax and drink. I even forgot for a moment that I was on the international wanted list. In that company, I met a beautiful and naive girl. Her name was Alice. A few hours later, we took a bottle of rum with us and went for a walk along the embankment. We talked and laughed. I even felt better, and for a moment I felt like a free and normal person. I looked back and saw a police flashing light. They were heading straight for us. A few seconds later, the police car was at our feet... How could I get burned? How did they find me? At that moment, I was very scared.
Three policemen got out of the car and asked for identification...
You can never properly appreciate the taste of freedom. Until they want to take it away...
I tried not to show it, to be cheerful and adequate. I told the policeman that I didn't have any documents with me, and I came from a nearby region to tell my girlfriend. Then the policeman demanded to get in his car and go to the police station. They wanted to draw up a protocol of an administrative offense (drinking alcoholic beverages in the wrong place).
It threatened to expose my identity
If they hit the base, everything is lost. I tried to negotiate with the cops. They are in denial, apparently the plan is on fire. Okay, I'll figure something out.
We approach the car. I sat Alice down first, pretending that I was going to sit down right now. I thought of the DiCaprio movie Catch Me If You Can, and then an idea popped into my head. I looked at the policeman standing next to me and looked away a little. The main thing in this situation is to get used to the role. I feigned a wild surprise: "Ой бля" At that moment the policeman looked back. This was my only chance.
At that moment, I ran in the opposite direction. He tried to grab me, but his attempts quickly ended in failure. I ran and ran and didn't look back.
I don't know how long my race lasted, but the time passed very differently. I stopped and looked back. There was no one behind me. They're definitely combing the area right now, and they might even have informed the nearest patrols. They'll be looking for me based on my description. White shoes, orange T-shirt... We need to hide.
I wandered into a house
I got out on the roof and calmed down a little. Scanning the area from above, I didn't see any flashing lights, and they probably cut them down. I stayed on this roof until morning...
After this incident, I had some kind of reassessment of everything that is happening. Getting caught drinking? God, this is stupid. I don't think the cops will be looking for me, but what if they think I ran away for a reason? These thoughts haunted me...
B - Insanely interesting story, how did it all end?
P - I was forced to go north, get back on the darknet, and start working. I earned about 2 million rubles, paid through the right friends, and everything calmed down.
B - How do you live now?
P - I have a business, I have enough to live on, I live by myself, but I'm completely fine.
So let's get started
B - Binary
P - Pavel
B - Hi, please introduce yourself.
P - Hello everyone, my name is Pavel.
B - Okay, Pavel, tell me what happened to you.
P - I'm on the federal wanted list for cybercrime.
B - How did this happen, who were you before you met the shadow sphere, and what made you take this step?
P - I worked as a regular admin in an IT company. The salary is not high, but it was enough to live on. I lived with my mother, at that time I was only 21 years old.
P - Just a background. My best friend from high school, Denis, worked with me at the firm. The only thing that bothered me was that he didn't think about anything else but money. In addition to his main job, he worked part-time on the darknet, earning several times more than I did, but we never discussed this. He thought I didn't know. But I knew.. I only heard about the darknet, but I was never interested in black schemes, and I was happy with my own life.
I met a girl, Lena, with whom I fell deeply in love. I spent my entire salary on her, because I wanted to give her a good life. I wanted to marry her, so I asked her to marry me. All according to the standard scheme: fell in love, wedding, children, apartment and stable work with a credit machine. Somewhere in the back of my mind, this is exactly what I wanted.
But I understood that I had nothing but savings of 250,000 rubles and a salary of 25,000.
And here we come to the answer to your question. One day, an accident happened...
Lena was returning home late at night and was hit by a car, all my money was spent on treatment. I took out a loan in the amount of 400,000 rubles secured by an apartment. The doctors said that she would have to learn to walk again.
One evening I was sitting in the kitchen, drinking vodka and thinking about how I should go on living... All funds are spent, the loan is hanging, the salary is small.
I thought about making extra money, and working on the darknet, which was taboo for me, began to attract. But I absolutely did not want to do this and went freelance, collecting 65k there for two months of work. I worked like a slave, and that was fine with me.
There was a crisis not only in my country, but also in the whole country. Many of them were cut, and I was one of them.
And it was on that day that my life changed...
I decided to meet Denis. At that time, he said, he was working with "serious" people. He knew my situation and told me about his "colleagues".
The guys were stuck in the 90s, they were involved in money laundering, and Denis was required to secure the entire scheme. I immediately refused such a job, despite my difficulties.
Denis suggested an alternative – he will give me an order for writing software and pay in cash. The essence of the software was to upgrade at that time a malicious program called "Citadel".
It took me about a week to study the information, and two more weeks to write the software. I was then given 120,000 rubles. I was amazed: this is many times more than I received.
And then I opened the door to the darknet for myself
Like an obedient dog, I began to run all his errands. I programmed for it for days and earned a lot of money. I closed the loan a long time ago.
For a year of such a life, I collected about a million rubles. At that time, it seemed - "the life of malin". I was already so caught up in this game that I just didn't give a damn. I stopped thinking about the consequences. There is a technical specification - I will issue a solution. And for the rest I don't care, the main thing is money .
The Darknet ate me from the inside out
I didn't do anything but work. Lena and I broke up, she learned to walk, was completely healthy. But love was no longer there, why? Because I loved the darknet. I worked for days without leaving my apartment. At that moment, I felt rich.
But there was still something missing. Appetites have changed. I no longer dressed at the market, but in boutiques, and saved up for an apartment. It would seem that everything went as it should, but the darknet just swallowed me up.
One day I decided to leave it
Six months have passed since my final decision to leave the darknet. And every week I kept telling myself that I was definitely going to leave. I'm really caught up in this game.
Denis suggested starting his own programming company: fulfill white orders, pay taxes, and live like normal people. We've raised quite a lot of money. Why not? We must go to the white life!
But in secret from Denis, I stayed on the darknet, stayed and took orders.
Opening a company
We rented an office, made repairs, and opened an individual entrepreneur. We have gained momentum. I then thought about leaving the darknet completely. But after working on the darknet for a few years, I've developed a criminal mindset. I kept wanting to cross the line of the law, it was like the adrenaline I was missing.
As time went on, I devoted 70% of my time to my company, and 30% of my time to shadow business. He founded a team of programmers, and we were engaged in the development and implementation of malicious software.
Subsequently, I bought 50% of the company from Denis and became the sole owner of the company. He started working in the consulting industry. At his request, I administered his servers personally.
One evening, Denis asked for an audit of one server. I checked everything without a second thought, printed out the necessary data for him. We had coffee and he left.
How wrong I was at that moment...
I thought that I had bent the system, but it turned out that they had bent me. After all, that day I went to his server from my work PC, leaving traces of connections...
After a while, I was relaxing at home with a new girlfriend. We drank wine and laughed. A knock on the door... I look through the peephole – the "Open up, we need Pavel Last Name and Patronymic".
I'm on the 9th floor, with nowhere to run. I realized that it was all because of Denis. After all, I went to the server and left my data. Denis knows about my activities in the shadow sphere. There was only one conclusion-he framed me and turned me in.
And then the knocking turned into insistent knocks on the door...
Life flashed before my eyes. Is it time to take responsibility for your actions?
I waited until they were gone.
B - Please tell me, what were your next steps?
P - I packed my things, having previously called my friend Andrey from the IT department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs from my friend's number. We agreed to dock.
By the evening we met, I didn't show it at first, but then I decided to tell him about my story. He promised to find out what was going on in the morning and give me all the information. We agreed to meet at the same cafe tomorrow. As it turned out-in vain.
The next day, Andrey gave me absolutely all the information. The fact is that I am accused of money laundering. I was speechless after saying that. I've never been associated with this field! I turned it down when it was offered to me... I had a lot of questions, and I didn't even think about what I was saying. Andrey listened carefully and probably memorized everything.
B - How come you were charged with money laundering?
P - Denis wrote that he is a pawn, and the brain of the scheme is me. The whole legend was thought out a long time ago. When Denis was a co-founder of my company, some sums were just being cashed out through the company. And then Andrey told me that I had to run, far away and for a long time... Without finishing the sentence, he said that I was wanted.
B - What else did a certain "Andrey" say to you that was useful?
P - He taught me the course of a young fighter: buy a hand-held phone, a SIM card, do not get in touch with your family, do not shine your passport, do not go to relatives, leave only by bus, throw away your personal phone and computer too.
B - What was your mental state when you found out that you were wanted?
P - I've developed paranoia.. I thought every cop knew me by sight and would stop me.
B - What did you do after the advice of "Andrey"?
P - Had to take public transport to my girlfriend's place.
I dressed well, shaved, and cleaned up. I went to the bus station. I bought a ticket to another region. I was supposed to be there in 9 hours. When I arrived, I looked around and chose a bus to another city, near the sea. I wanted to go there. Departure time is 6 hours.
The police are all over the station, so it's scary to stay here, to put it mildly. I took a taxi to a polite citizen named Vazgen, who drove me to the mall. There I bought a suitcase and more business-style clothes. As a result, he looked like a businessman who had arrived on a business trip.
After a couple of hours, I went to a city by the sea, at the other end of the geography, away from my native region. Upon arrival, I bought a newspaper about renting apartments and called a realtor. We made an appointment.
P - Turned out to be a nice, middle-aged woman. I introduced myself and told my legend that I had arrived on a business trip for 3 months. Since I looked neat and "rich", no one asked any unnecessary questions. We went to the apartment, clean, nice, with a sea view. Price 17000r. I've paid, we're drawing up a contract, and it's time for them to look at my passport. Then I got nervous, but I didn't show it. Everything went quite calmly and quickly.
I stayed in my apartment for twenty-four hours and didn't go out. I should get a laptop and buy something to eat.
The depression was eating me up inside.
I'm alone in the city, I don't know anyone. I got a laptop, it became somehow more fun. I read a lot about my article, about the search, about the methods of the police.
B - Since you've had some experience, would you like to give some tips for your subscribers?
P - Yes, of course:
B - What were your next steps?
P - Didn't communicate with anyone, didn't go into the darknet. I started playing sports, lost more than 10 kg in 2 months and looked good.
It was a good thing I had the money. You can't hide without them. Every day I thought about how to get home and deal with the police. Maybe a bribe? Probably, the amount there will be at least 3-4 million rubles. I have less than half of that money with me, and the other half is hidden in my hometown. It is necessary to drive back... Then I will definitely be locked up in a pre-trial detention center.
My thoughts were eating me up inside
It was a bit hot outside, and the wind was cool from the sea. I decided to walk along the embankment and think about my future plans. I drank 200 grams of vodka beforehand. Unexpectedly, I wandered into a local party.
The contingent, to put it mildly, leaves much to be desired. There I met a group of guys. We started to relax and drink. I even forgot for a moment that I was on the international wanted list. In that company, I met a beautiful and naive girl. Her name was Alice. A few hours later, we took a bottle of rum with us and went for a walk along the embankment. We talked and laughed. I even felt better, and for a moment I felt like a free and normal person. I looked back and saw a police flashing light. They were heading straight for us. A few seconds later, the police car was at our feet... How could I get burned? How did they find me? At that moment, I was very scared.
Three policemen got out of the car and asked for identification...
You can never properly appreciate the taste of freedom. Until they want to take it away...
I tried not to show it, to be cheerful and adequate. I told the policeman that I didn't have any documents with me, and I came from a nearby region to tell my girlfriend. Then the policeman demanded to get in his car and go to the police station. They wanted to draw up a protocol of an administrative offense (drinking alcoholic beverages in the wrong place).
It threatened to expose my identity
If they hit the base, everything is lost. I tried to negotiate with the cops. They are in denial, apparently the plan is on fire. Okay, I'll figure something out.
We approach the car. I sat Alice down first, pretending that I was going to sit down right now. I thought of the DiCaprio movie Catch Me If You Can, and then an idea popped into my head. I looked at the policeman standing next to me and looked away a little. The main thing in this situation is to get used to the role. I feigned a wild surprise: "Ой бля" At that moment the policeman looked back. This was my only chance.
At that moment, I ran in the opposite direction. He tried to grab me, but his attempts quickly ended in failure. I ran and ran and didn't look back.
I don't know how long my race lasted, but the time passed very differently. I stopped and looked back. There was no one behind me. They're definitely combing the area right now, and they might even have informed the nearest patrols. They'll be looking for me based on my description. White shoes, orange T-shirt... We need to hide.
I wandered into a house
I got out on the roof and calmed down a little. Scanning the area from above, I didn't see any flashing lights, and they probably cut them down. I stayed on this roof until morning...
After this incident, I had some kind of reassessment of everything that is happening. Getting caught drinking? God, this is stupid. I don't think the cops will be looking for me, but what if they think I ran away for a reason? These thoughts haunted me...
B - Insanely interesting story, how did it all end?
P - I was forced to go north, get back on the darknet, and start working. I earned about 2 million rubles, paid through the right friends, and everything calmed down.
B - How do you live now?
P - I have a business, I have enough to live on, I live by myself, but I'm completely fine.
