I also deal with pirax and he told me about what happened, and I even had to admit that I would have probaly removed the post once he sent back the first $1000 with the understanding that the rest would be paid back over time, and it is unfortunate that this guy has been able to still remain in biz here. I would totally vouch for pirax because I know him to be a very honest guy since I have met him and he has done nothing but help me and even gave me some free things before and I only met him since I have been in this forum, since that time we have become friends and talk regularly, so I would like to try and add to the credibility of what he is saying, Panther I hope that you will take this into consideration.