A very interesting situation happened - scammers accuse each other and put forward mutual claims to each other
Chronology of events:
User Inc created a topic on 08/25/2020, 01:02 PM
crdclub/showthread.php?t=85098
Topic name: verified.bz; hydra.uno; ica.su - SCAM FORUM
Message:
RIPPER verified.bz
RIPPER hydra.uno
RIPPER ica.su
What is known about carder "Inc"?
This is the arbiter of the Russian carding forums "Verified" and "Korovka".
Last year, he vouched for a cc seller under the nickname 2pac and restored his account. As you know, a real 2pac (track2) Roman Seleznev was detained long ago and is in prison in the United States.
As a result, almost all participants of the forum were injured, who replenished its online store in the hope of buying cards. The seller simply took their money, did not provide the goods, and then closed the store. Neither @Inc nor the administration (VR_support) of the forum paid anyone compensation and advertising money, which 2pac paid, that is, they simply threw all their members.
Inc asserted that it was not Roman, but, allegedly, his support. The amount of damage is more than 100k.
User blade7 posted the following topic 02/15/2021, 19:25
Titled: crdclub.cc / club2crd.cc / crdclub.su - SCAM! RIPPER CARDING FORUM
ica/showthread.php?t=101650
With the following content:
1) forum crdclub / mak
2) crdclub.cc / club2crd.cc / [email protected]
3) the amount of the claim is $ 15 926
4) essence: I'll start from the very beginning in the same order as the black on the cow was written
Very strange things ... It is not entirely clear to whom to write black, indicated the name of the forum, since the vendor with the deposit is from there.
In general, I contacted the WUtopup vendor. Threw him a cart and a phrase for verification. (Now I can’t go in and make a screen, because crdclub doesn’t work.)
He tapped me into the cart and immediately wrote a phrase for verification. There is no doubt about it. It's him.
I started asking him if it was possible to make a transfer to my bank account of a certain country. To which WUtopup replied that Yes, it is possible.
I began to clarify the details, possible amounts and whether there would be holds and other hemorrhoids, to which he said, supposedly everything would be smooth.
I asked how much you can drive right at the moment. He said there is a $ 35k account and he can already start doing it. I had only about $ 16k on my wallet, and its 50% commission was not enough, respectively. He said that it’s not scary, they say you’ll finish it later. OK.
And since he has a deposit of $ 30k on crdclub, I figured that he would hardly throw at 16k.
I took a wallet, made a sand and that's it. History cleared itself in a flash. The vendor has deleted the entire history.
I immediately go to the CD and see Maintenance break there. ETA 48h.
The forum stopped working immediately after the translation.
Then he added a mak in a toad, and just in the process of writing this black, I talked a little with him. His words:
mak Today is
8 21:49 Write the black
hash of the payment https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/39...b2164a233bcb6a
mak Today is
8 22:06 The account was hijacked after the verification base was hacked. As
I understand it, mak says that his account was hijacked on the forum.
But this is strange. I wrote poppy to toad after the vendor rubbed the history of messages in the cart. And the poppy answered almost immediately, or more precisely, after 16 minutes.
That is, it is not clear how long the poppy was on the network up to this point and clearly saw that something was wrong on his forum. However, the forum stopped working exactly after I submitted the cue ball ... Coincidence?
In the toad correspondence, at first mak said that he was not responsible for vendors. OK. In this case, I want to get my money back from the deposit that WUtopup made.
Fortunately, the crdclab tab with deposits remained open and I can show that at the time I spoke with the vendor, the 30k deposit was on his account.
Of course, this played a major role in the level of trust that I had in the vendor at that time. It is foolish to throw at 16k when you only have 30k on your deposit. If he had a zero or a penny dep, of course no one would have dealings with him.
communication logs with mak in toad:
N Today, 21:29, mak accepted a request to subscribe
blade Today is
7 21:30 mak here?
7 21:31 your vendor WUtopup threw me to 16k and at that moment the forum stopped working ...
7 21:33 Maintenance break. ETA 48h
I can't even create black
7 21:35 or is it a joint action?
mak Today
21: 46 What is your nickname?
blade Today
7 21:46 blade
7 21:47 I thought you wouldn’t answer and already in the process of writing black on the cow
7 21:47 * there was text from black
mak Today is
8 21:47 wu topup already has ripper status
blade Today is
7 21 : 47 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/39...b2164a233bcb6a
7 21:48 in the process of writing was.
Did NOT add 7 21:49 how is the ripper status? exactly after I sent the cue ball?
mak Today
8 21:49 Write black
blade Today
7 21:57https://korovka.cc/showthread.php?p=173148
7 21:59 and was it worth selling your reputation for the sake of 16k? for the sake of these cents
7 21:59 of these
mak Today
8 22:00 Does anyone really believe in wu for 50%?
8 22:00 What is the current toad of the lady's support?
blade Today
7 22:01 "Does anyone really believe in wu for 50%?"
so why the hell are you making it a trusted vendor?
7 22:01 is this kind of like a mockery you said?
mak Today
8 22:01 A vendor is a person with paid advertising, nothing more
blade Today
7 22:01 look at the idiot turned on garbage
mak Today
8 22:01 You need to think with your brains
8 22:02 Well, if you are an idiot, then What more i can say?
blade Today is
7 22:02 he has a deposit of 30k
7 22:02 I didn’t send a no-name
mak Today is
8 22:02 Congratulations
8 22:02 Now he has a deposit of 0 and a ripper status
blade Today is
7 22:02 I don’t understand
7 22: 03 do you think someone will believe this? exactly after I sent the money
7 22:03 you close the forum and make the ripak zeroed
7 22:03 your vendor
mak Today
8 22:04 You can become a vendor for $ 500
blade Today
7 22:04 and shouldn't you check the vendor before how to give him the appropriate status?
7 22:04 or you give out vendors to everyone who pays
7 22:04 in this card movement I respected you the most
7 22:05 I won't get poor from this money
mak Today
8 22:05 Checking does not only mean that at the time of paying for the advertisement the seller owns the material
8 22:05 Vue bays there is no way to check
blade Today is
7 22:05 but it's just a pity that for that kind of money you sold out
mak Today
8 22:06 The account was hijacked after hacking the verif base
User dicefn1 left the following comment under the topic:
The admin of the MAK forum is the number 1 who threw people from Ukraine, he already threw just how many fucking things.
So, all the shops selling cc and dumps belong to him - they are all scam!
All topics where the amount of transactions is more than $ 1000 are all scam!
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What do we know about admin "mak"?
This carder @makaka stole the private forum database the carder.su (CSU) and posted it on crdpro.su in public. Then he placed a banner on the main page with a dump+pin sale, after which he successfully deceived all buyers.
He also posted a link to his new forum in order to get additional traffic.
He also deceived carders when he provided a drop service for receiving goods (stuff). Here's one of the complaints:
What do we know about the "Ica" forum?
- The hacked database of our project has been restored, which was previously under the domains carder.pro (cpro.su).
Thus, he spoils and denigrates the reputation of our forum. And Google successfully brings the scammers' forum to the top. This is very disappointing, I really regret it.
- There are a bunch of advertising banners hanging on the main page to deceive:
- Sale dump + pin
- Sale of virtual debit cards with high balance and pin codes
- Selling cloned cards with high balance and pin codes
- Sale of cigarettes from the manufacturer for 10% of the cost
- Sale of carded equipment for 40% of the cost
- Sale of non-working EMV software
Such a ridiculous divorce, apparently counting on complete suckers.
Please smile and draw conclusions gentlemen, a very cool situation turned out. Who in the end cheated people for a large sum, do you think?
Chronology of events:
User Inc created a topic on 08/25/2020, 01:02 PM
crdclub/showthread.php?t=85098
Topic name: verified.bz; hydra.uno; ica.su - SCAM FORUM
Message:
RIPPER verified.bz
RIPPER hydra.uno
RIPPER ica.su
What is known about carder "Inc"?
This is the arbiter of the Russian carding forums "Verified" and "Korovka".
Last year, he vouched for a cc seller under the nickname 2pac and restored his account. As you know, a real 2pac (track2) Roman Seleznev was detained long ago and is in prison in the United States.
As a result, almost all participants of the forum were injured, who replenished its online store in the hope of buying cards. The seller simply took their money, did not provide the goods, and then closed the store. Neither @Inc nor the administration (VR_support) of the forum paid anyone compensation and advertising money, which 2pac paid, that is, they simply threw all their members.
Inc asserted that it was not Roman, but, allegedly, his support. The amount of damage is more than 100k.
User blade7 posted the following topic 02/15/2021, 19:25
Titled: crdclub.cc / club2crd.cc / crdclub.su - SCAM! RIPPER CARDING FORUM
ica/showthread.php?t=101650
With the following content:
1) forum crdclub / mak
2) crdclub.cc / club2crd.cc / [email protected]
3) the amount of the claim is $ 15 926
4) essence: I'll start from the very beginning in the same order as the black on the cow was written
Very strange things ... It is not entirely clear to whom to write black, indicated the name of the forum, since the vendor with the deposit is from there.
In general, I contacted the WUtopup vendor. Threw him a cart and a phrase for verification. (Now I can’t go in and make a screen, because crdclub doesn’t work.)
He tapped me into the cart and immediately wrote a phrase for verification. There is no doubt about it. It's him.
I started asking him if it was possible to make a transfer to my bank account of a certain country. To which WUtopup replied that Yes, it is possible.
I began to clarify the details, possible amounts and whether there would be holds and other hemorrhoids, to which he said, supposedly everything would be smooth.
I asked how much you can drive right at the moment. He said there is a $ 35k account and he can already start doing it. I had only about $ 16k on my wallet, and its 50% commission was not enough, respectively. He said that it’s not scary, they say you’ll finish it later. OK.
And since he has a deposit of $ 30k on crdclub, I figured that he would hardly throw at 16k.
I took a wallet, made a sand and that's it. History cleared itself in a flash. The vendor has deleted the entire history.
I immediately go to the CD and see Maintenance break there. ETA 48h.
The forum stopped working immediately after the translation.
Then he added a mak in a toad, and just in the process of writing this black, I talked a little with him. His words:
mak Today is
8 21:49 Write the black
hash of the payment https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/39...b2164a233bcb6a
mak Today is
8 22:06 The account was hijacked after the verification base was hacked. As
I understand it, mak says that his account was hijacked on the forum.
But this is strange. I wrote poppy to toad after the vendor rubbed the history of messages in the cart. And the poppy answered almost immediately, or more precisely, after 16 minutes.
That is, it is not clear how long the poppy was on the network up to this point and clearly saw that something was wrong on his forum. However, the forum stopped working exactly after I submitted the cue ball ... Coincidence?
In the toad correspondence, at first mak said that he was not responsible for vendors. OK. In this case, I want to get my money back from the deposit that WUtopup made.
Fortunately, the crdclab tab with deposits remained open and I can show that at the time I spoke with the vendor, the 30k deposit was on his account.
Of course, this played a major role in the level of trust that I had in the vendor at that time. It is foolish to throw at 16k when you only have 30k on your deposit. If he had a zero or a penny dep, of course no one would have dealings with him.
communication logs with mak in toad:
N Today, 21:29, mak accepted a request to subscribe
blade Today is
7 21:30 mak here?
7 21:31 your vendor WUtopup threw me to 16k and at that moment the forum stopped working ...
7 21:33 Maintenance break. ETA 48h
I can't even create black
7 21:35 or is it a joint action?
mak Today
21: 46 What is your nickname?
blade Today
7 21:46 blade
7 21:47 I thought you wouldn’t answer and already in the process of writing black on the cow
7 21:47 * there was text from black
mak Today is
8 21:47 wu topup already has ripper status
blade Today is
7 21 : 47 https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/39...b2164a233bcb6a
7 21:48 in the process of writing was.
Did NOT add 7 21:49 how is the ripper status? exactly after I sent the cue ball?
mak Today
8 21:49 Write black
blade Today
7 21:57https://korovka.cc/showthread.php?p=173148
7 21:59 and was it worth selling your reputation for the sake of 16k? for the sake of these cents
7 21:59 of these
mak Today
8 22:00 Does anyone really believe in wu for 50%?
8 22:00 What is the current toad of the lady's support?
blade Today
7 22:01 "Does anyone really believe in wu for 50%?"
so why the hell are you making it a trusted vendor?
7 22:01 is this kind of like a mockery you said?
mak Today
8 22:01 A vendor is a person with paid advertising, nothing more
blade Today
7 22:01 look at the idiot turned on garbage
mak Today
8 22:01 You need to think with your brains
8 22:02 Well, if you are an idiot, then What more i can say?
blade Today is
7 22:02 he has a deposit of 30k
7 22:02 I didn’t send a no-name
mak Today is
8 22:02 Congratulations
8 22:02 Now he has a deposit of 0 and a ripper status
blade Today is
7 22:02 I don’t understand
7 22: 03 do you think someone will believe this? exactly after I sent the money
7 22:03 you close the forum and make the ripak zeroed
7 22:03 your vendor
mak Today
8 22:04 You can become a vendor for $ 500
blade Today
7 22:04 and shouldn't you check the vendor before how to give him the appropriate status?
7 22:04 or you give out vendors to everyone who pays
7 22:04 in this card movement I respected you the most
7 22:05 I won't get poor from this money
mak Today
8 22:05 Checking does not only mean that at the time of paying for the advertisement the seller owns the material
8 22:05 Vue bays there is no way to check
blade Today is
7 22:05 but it's just a pity that for that kind of money you sold out
mak Today
8 22:06 The account was hijacked after hacking the verif base
User dicefn1 left the following comment under the topic:
The admin of the MAK forum is the number 1 who threw people from Ukraine, he already threw just how many fucking things.
So, all the shops selling cc and dumps belong to him - they are all scam!
All topics where the amount of transactions is more than $ 1000 are all scam!
----
What do we know about admin "mak"?
This carder @makaka stole the private forum database the carder.su (CSU) and posted it on crdpro.su in public. Then he placed a banner on the main page with a dump+pin sale, after which he successfully deceived all buyers.
He also posted a link to his new forum in order to get additional traffic.
He also deceived carders when he provided a drop service for receiving goods (stuff). Here's one of the complaints:
What do we know about the "Ica" forum?
- The hacked database of our project has been restored, which was previously under the domains carder.pro (cpro.su).
Thus, he spoils and denigrates the reputation of our forum. And Google successfully brings the scammers' forum to the top. This is very disappointing, I really regret it.
- There are a bunch of advertising banners hanging on the main page to deceive:
- Sale dump + pin
- Sale of virtual debit cards with high balance and pin codes
- Selling cloned cards with high balance and pin codes
- Sale of cigarettes from the manufacturer for 10% of the cost
- Sale of carded equipment for 40% of the cost
- Sale of non-working EMV software
Such a ridiculous divorce, apparently counting on complete suckers.
Please smile and draw conclusions gentlemen, a very cool situation turned out. Who in the end cheated people for a large sum, do you think?
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