First attempt (in depth)

KPH

Carder
Messages
93
Reaction score
143
Points
33
Hello all
Today after some time of learning and getting a good understanding I did my first attempt although I didn't succeed i gained some experience I wanted to make this thread to walk through my steps and if anyone can point out advise on what I can do better just because I failed doesn't mean it's dead it's part of it it's tried and tested to keep learning through failure and just need to keep going stay persistent

The VPN I used I ensured it doesn't log I used proxy service that lasted for 60 minutes and targeted the CHs state as close as can be I used go login as my anti detect browser

The proxies were clean I checked multiple sites I made sure my geo location matched my system matched there was no discrepancys some of the services I used and they showed the following:

Whoer.net came to 100%
Scamylatics score was 5
Ipscore was 100/100
Maxmind I used for geo location
Leaksradar - no inconsistencys found
Browser leaks showed 2 servers 1 ISP and 1 location not sure what that means exactly
Fakevision gave a 5% fraud score

I warmed the email up subscribed to mailing lists sent a message to unsubscribe tried to generate some activity to further add to this I could potentially create a Craigslist add to drive traffic into the email ? Would this be smart

The card I used was a non vbv and was live it was tested in a private checker not public as public checksers usually kill the card straight after purchase
This is where I miscalculated as I was creating the accounts on the exchanges I'm using a laptop the non kyc apps were in fact kyc to an extent they needed some form of proof or verification I shouldve rented a number to which the exchange sends a code for me to input I let the accounts sit and warm for 15/20 minites I had multiple other tabs open as some anti fraud can see the tabs opens I believe I had women's apps open to try and mimick the card holder during the process I browsed through the exchange I registred my account everything was okay it let me in now I went to make the purchase eventually everything seemed fine I made the first attempt it sent me to a number that I need however I didn't have it I attempted to use one that's readily available however after inserting the number the site i used for the disposable number stopped this was a mistake on my end i should have rented a number that would receive the sms codes and i would input them during this i was also warming another exchange now this is where it got interesting as i typically thought itd be denied or allowed the anti fraud lets you pass or not i inputed the details by hand no copy and pasting now on this exchange I did an email verification as that's the very basic one and everything was okay I did one purchase of $250 and nothing seemed to have happened i tried again and it said pending when i check orders it showed 2 transactions one with pending the other with awaiting payment as seen below
IMG_20240619_195931_edit_479574180513801.jpg

IMG_20240619_195230.jpg

IMG_20240619_195944.jpg

Then I received an email I seem to have spooked the anti fraud system and required verification now
Screenshot_20240619_224605_com.google.android.gm_edit_479898193100210.jpg
It shows this aswell as additional verification required so I'd need to utilise the drawing services in order to produce material to help me bypass the kyc so I've gone wrong somewhere and the anti fraud system had suspected me hence it asking for more verification I need to see what I did wrong maybe with the number spooked it

is the best way to use a laptop for this way or would it be more efficient to use a phone and set up go to playstore and use an app from there in terms of finding the exchange I avoided searching directly rather finding it indirectly by searching through


I would appreciate any guidance and if anyone is offering training or teaching please let me know as I have a desire to learn knowledge and join a team of like minded people as having guidance would be very beneficial and expand my knowledge aswell as the obvious reason being successful I appreciate it if you made it this far this is simply my first try of many I just needed to go back to the drawing board re-evaluate and begin again

For a "beginner" is attempting cc to BTC wise or are there other methods such as carding shops etc be wiser to begin with and build my way up

If we Fail to prepare then we can Prepare to fail preparation and the correct steps should be taken into consideration

If anyone could provide some information or guidance what to work and improve on

Thank you
 
Last edited:
Hello.
You have studied the theoretical fundamentals well and practically learned carding.

There is no need to be upset and disappointed if it doesn't work out the first time.
It is always necessary not to despair and try new methods. When you try and learn, then someday it should work out and you will achieve success in full.

Very interesting, please answer the questions:
How did you find and in which store did you buy Non-VBV cards?
How did you check the validity of the cards?

From what I read, I understand that you did everything correctly, but there are some nuances that you missed. Email activity should be more than 2 months, but I think this is not always necessary. The antifraud system gave you risk points for this mistake.
You also received points for using a virtual phone number for SMS verification.
Since the antifraud system noticed this, your card payments went into standby mode and the site requested scans of documents.
It is quite possible that all your system settings did not leak, but the site forcibly requests scans of documents for verification for any payment via Non-VBV.
You must take into account the fact that even if you provide them with documents, they may not approve and reject the payment. In this case, all your material expenses will be in vain.

For the "CC to BTC" method, you can try other sites, but keep in mind that since you do not want to go through KYC verification, the anti-fraud system will be very careful about each payment made using the card.
 
Hello.
You have studied the theoretical fundamentals well and practically learned carding.

There is no need to be upset and disappointed if it doesn't work out the first time.
It is always necessary not to despair and try new methods. When you try and learn, then someday it should work out and you will achieve success in full.

Very interesting, please answer the questions:
How did you find and in which store did you buy Non-VBV cards?
How did you check the validity of the cards?

From what I read, I understand that you did everything correctly, but there are some nuances that you missed. Email activity should be more than 2 months, but I think this is not always necessary. The antifraud system gave you risk points for this mistake.
You also received points for using a virtual phone number for SMS verification.
Since the antifraud system noticed this, your card payments went into standby mode and the site requested scans of documents.
It is quite possible that all your system settings did not leak, but the site forcibly requests scans of documents for verification for any payment via Non-VBV.
You must take into account the fact that even if you provide them with documents, they may not approve and reject the payment. In this case, all your material expenses will be in vain.

For the "CC to BTC" method, you can try other sites, but keep in mind that since you do not want to go through KYC verification, the anti-fraud system will be very careful about each payment made using the card.
Hello it's thanks to this forum all the knowledge I gained any questions were always swiftly answered so id like to thank everyone who contributed to this forum I do intend on finding a teacher who can help me iron out any remaining issues if possible I understand that a % will be taken on successful carding attempts which I am more than happy with aswell as willing to learn and dedicate time

For my first attempt I've recognised my own mistakes that spooked the anti fraud a lack of preparation on my end

First attempt of many

I found the non vbv CCs Through a seller I had one of two options it was either purchasing a non vbv bin from @alex4488ava however I purchased a non vbv cc directly from bigbeast he has a shop in the verified sellers section in the forum I have kept in contact with him for a while so I purchased it from him as now I know the bin (first 6 digits) he sells an array of cards and other materials https://carder.market/threads/new-selling-sniffed-cc-with-known-balance-enroll-cc-hot-prices.114607/ he put it through a private checker(telegram bot) checked once only as I didn't want to repeatedly check incase it kills and that's it to check for validity myself can I make a small donation to see ?

For email activity to be older than 2 months could I purchase aged accounts but id need them to be with the cc or I could manually create and generate activity on an email
Yes that was a major mistake I made however I've come to a conclusion I will be using a rented private number it's not VOIP as you said it'll give fraud points it's a physical SIM in a phone and SMS get forwarded to me would this be a suitable fix I'm open to new ideas and methods

I'm grateful for the reply I will study some more and refine what I have done plan and have another attempt as you said I need to try other sites but I must ensure my set up is immaculate as the anti fraud will be tighter than usual

I will continue to learn more and will try a giftcard site soon as my logic is either cc to BTC or cc to giftcard to BTC

Just because this has happened I will still try and use the card elsewhere on a different site and see what happens

I have the theoretical knowledge however I need to now apply this and improve this
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Many card checkers may not work correctly. It is not at all known how the checker works in Telegram, in which you checked the card for survivability.
There are checkers on Telegram and the Internet that give an erroneous result, and they themselves steal (appropriate) the card being checked.

It’s not advisable, but you can still try and make a donation for a minimum amount to make sure that you are working with a live card.
I hope the cards purchased and used for the unsuccessful attempt are still usable and will work on other sites.

Using physical SIM cards is a good idea, but very inconvenient and costly, since each new CC requires a new number.

The cryptocurrency carding method and the cryptocurrency carding method are anagochiny. You should take into account that these sites will have enhanced fraud protection, which is difficult to bypass if the browser leaks.

Try to consult with BigBeast, perhaps he can advise you or sell you a bin, indicating which site it is suitable for.
 
Thank you for the reply just some follow up questions
Many card checkers may not work correctly. It is not at all known how the checker works in Telegram, in which you checked the card for survivability.
There are checkers on Telegram and the Internet that give an erroneous result, and they themselves steal (appropriate) the card being checked.
I understand so I must do my own due diligence and check the card I read a way to do it that included chess.com by inserting the details also could you please provide me with some form of direction as to going about checking cards if I'm not mistaken I'm sure checking on gpay adding it on checks for card validity ?

It’s not advisable, but you can still try and make a donation for a minimum amount to make sure that you are working with a live card.
I hope the cards purchased and used for the unsuccessful attempt are still usable and will work on other sites.
I will attempt this shortly and will return with an update to the thread thank you

Using physical SIM cards is a good idea, but very inconvenient and costly, since each new CC requires a new number.
I have seen services where you can rent or pay as you go for physical SIMs so I'd rent for just a day or two as I'm carding and require one number linked to the CC using physical would result in less fraud points right ? What would you recommend virtual or physical?

The cryptocurrency carding method and the cryptocurrency carding method are anagochiny. You should take into account that these sites will have enhanced fraud protection, which is difficult to bypass if the browser leaks.

So I need to find a site that has a decreased fraud protection in order for me to get past aswell as having my configuration air tight no leaks I could utilise the drawing service and bypass tiered kyc exchanges but it can be a coin flip if it gets past or not

What I am thinking is I might stray away from crypto sites temporarily as I'm using a laptop and try card some goods into a drop however my first step is going to be finding a shop that's got less traffic not popular preferably 2d as they are becoming more scarce
Try to consult with BigBeast, perhaps he can advise you or sell you a bin, indicating which site it is suitable for.

I shall do this thank you for the replies
 
Yes, you indicated working methods for checking CC for validity.
You can also add the card to some paid subscription, payment system or stock.
You can try to buy a cheap digital product, online game or service.
If she becomes attached, it means she is alive and can be used.

Physical SIM cards are better than virtual ones. If possible, use them.
 
Yes, you indicated working methods for checking CC for validity.
You can also add the card to some paid subscription, payment system or stock.
You can try to buy a cheap digital product, online game or service.
If she becomes attached, it means she is alive and can be used.

Thank you for further clarification I will add these to the notes
Physical SIM cards are better than virtual ones. If possible, use them.
That's understandable thank you for the replies I will be attempting again soon
 
I reckon you go for e card gifting. Find a site thats 2d secure.
I swiped gift card granny on my second attempt, however after 2 more attemps on that other 2d secure sites I failed, and I can't get any of the 2 cards.
I've had quite a few failed attempts, with some sites that don't even require the cardholders email address. (continue as guest), Failed all the other times despite working once!

This post really helped me as I have some leaks in my ship that needs patching, as I'm sure you cal tell from my above statement.
As tomcat said, they have more advanced secuirty techniques. I haven't been able to buy any without either an sms (at the very least) sometimes they even are KYC or facial scan tech. Despite not saying on the frontpage. I buy them using cards, I found NON VBV BINS of my area and created an account under my name attempting to do this, if successful I can report it as scam.
Anyway, only after you hit pay do you know the true verification procedure of the website, it's cheaper then buying a virgin card from a reputable seller. Especially when starting out and having no idea if your setup will work.

I hope you don't mind me offering advice, however we are both new and I've found lots of your posts helpful and the comments underneath them. So I figured I'd offer what advice I could. Hopefully we are more successful soon.

$$$ OPPOTUNITY FOR THOSE EXPERIENCED.
-Do you hate your students being unmotivated, not listening, failing, bothering you with their annoying telegram messages. Well look no further then beginners who HAVE ACTUALLY attended and read many of the famous carder.market lectures forums, as well as asking specific and unqiue questions unlike the common like "pls teach me how to card, need money." WE ALL FUCKING DO BUT YOU'RE JUST LAZY.
Wanting those types of students? Then look no further then KPH and zaccha6!!!
YOU WILL NOT BE RECIEVING MONEY BEFOREHAND. (Please stop falling for telegram scams, go through known services please!)
But I'd be more then willing to go through a verified escrow service.
Feel free to read mine/kph's post history to realise we have done research, won't ask you what a socks5 is 100 times, as well as have our own cards. How do I say this nicely, we aren't dumb f*cks. If you were in a classroom, we would be the students that knew you really don't give a f*ck, you just tryna get that paycheck and dip. That's cool, we won't make you work hard for it. Give us a few website warming up tutorials, maybe have a look over our sytem setups and we all happy.

-But whats in it for you!
50% of our first 5 transactions (each). T&C apply, we go thru an escrow service.
(smarter students get more money FYI)
oh btw, the cards I used actually belonged to friends who I tested for VBV, and found the bins that weren't. If I do it, they'd be in on it.
 
Last edited:
I reckon you go for e card gifting. Find a site thats 2d secure.

Zaccha6 hope you are well
Thank you for the recommendation I shall start doing that as a starter point
I swiped gift card granny on my second attempt, however after 2 more attemps on that other 2d secure sites I failed, and I can't get any of the 2 cards.
I've had quite a few failed attempts, with some sites that don't even require the cardholders email address. (continue as guest), Failed all the other times despite working once!
That's quite interesting at what point did you fail did it allow you to create an account or did it fail during the payment process as seen above with my first attempt it let me go through with the payments however after spooking the anti fraud it put the payments on hold and requested further details if you could let us know how you approached id like to anaylse your approach and steps you took for when it was successful and when it wasn't what was the main differences
This post really helped me as I have some leaks in my ship that needs patching, as I'm sure you cal tell from my above statement.
I'm glad it did for all those who are starting out every little helps but in order to receive help you must help yourself first you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped

What set up are you currently using
As tomcat said, they have more advanced secuirty techniques. I haven't been able to buy any without either an sms (at the very least) sometimes they even are KYC or facial scan tech

Yes this is where I made an error on my end I need to prepare properly for this
. Despite not saying on the frontpage. I buy them using cards, I found NON VBV BINS of my area and created an account under my name attempting to do this, if successful I can report it as scam.
Working with cards of your own country isnt advisable would this be as a test of sorts to see what the actual verification system is like once you've used a cc that's an interesting concept
Anyway, only after you hit pay do you know the true verification procedure of the website, it's cheaper then buying a virgin card from a reputable seller. Especially when starting out and having no idea if your setup will work.
That's a very interesting concept I haven't heard of that before thank you
I hope you don't mind me offering advice, however we are both new and I've found lots of your posts helpful and the comments underneath them. So I figured I'd offer what advice I could. Hopefully we are more successful soon.

No not at all I appreciate the advice and time you've taken to leave a comment as have your posts been a great help the more we can help each other and share knowledge the further we will go something I have an issue with tmrw I might figure it out through your post and vice versa I'm always open to new ideas as you said we are both new so we should try help and share information when and where possible hopefully so and I hope nothing less of success for you and the others reading this
$$$ OPPOTUNITY FOR THOSE EXPERIENCED.
-Do you hate your students being unmotivated, not listening, failing, bothering you with their annoying telegram messages. Well look no further then beginners who HAVE ACTUALLY attended and read many of the famous carder.market lectures forums, as well as asking specific and unqiue questions unlike the common like "pls teach me how to card, need money." WE ALL FUCKING DO BUT YOU'RE JUST LAZY.
Wanting those types of students? Then look no further then KPH and zaccha6!!!
YOU WILL NOT BE RECIEVING MONEY BEFOREHAND. (Please stop falling for telegram scams, go through known services please!)
But I'd be more then willing to go through a verified escrow service.
Feel free to read mine/kph's post history to realise we have done research, won't ask you what a socks5 is 100 times, as well as have our own cards. How do I say this nicely, we aren't dumb f*cks. If you were in a classroom, we would be the students that knew you really don't give a f*ck, you just tryna get that paycheck and dip. That's cool, we won't make you work hard for it. Give us a few website warming up tutorials, maybe have a look over our sytem setups and we all happy.
If any experienced carders come across this wed appreciate reaching out to us we are both willing to learn and have a desire to move forward in this field
-But whats in it for you!
50% of our first 5 transactions (each). T&C apply, we go thru an escrow service.
(smarter students get more money FYI)
oh btw, the cards I used actually belonged to friends who I tested for VBV, and found the bins that weren't. If I do it, they'd be in on it.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Please be active on the forum. Help answer questions from beginners (you already know the theoretical basics).
Offer discussions about your problems in carding.
Be interested in manuals and working methods.
Open up new topics for discussion.
Together we must develop the forum.
If you have interesting questions and the forum gets promoted, professional carders will join us. And these are your future partners, and with them new and private topics for successful work.
 
Please be active on the forum. Help answer questions from beginners (you already know the theoretical basics).
Yes now that I understand the theoretical basics here to be active on the forum and helping any all people
Offer discussions about your problems in carding.
Be interested in manuals and working methods.
That's the main thing manuals and working methods when I figure out how to do it myself I will make a manual
Open up new topics for discussion.
Together we must develop the forum.
If you have interesting questions and the forum gets promoted, professional carders will join us.

How does the forum get promoted
And these are your future partners, and with them new and private topics for successful work.
That makes sense and potential people to learn off
 
This forum is currently public. And some carders can find answers to their questions in search engines.
As the admin promises, when the number of active participants on the forum increases, the forum will go into private mode.
Registration will be available only with a guarantee.
At the moment the forum needs quality traffic. The more we communicate, the better. Beginners will see that new topics are appearing and other guys are really being helped and taught. They will have a desire to join us.
The more information appears, the broader the horizons of our audience.
 
This forum is currently public. And some carders can find answers to their questions in search engines.
As the admin promises, when the number of active participants on the forum increases, the forum will go into private mode.
That makes sense I understand as everyone who is participating is vouched or guaranteed by someone hence less scammers and rippers it'll become a spot for like minded people to collaborate and share knowledge
Registration will be available only with a guarantee.
Is a guarantee someone who will be already within the forum
At the moment the forum needs quality traffic. The more we communicate, the better. Beginners will see that new topics are appearing and other guys are really being helped and taught. They will have a desire to join us.
The more information appears, the broader the horizons of our audience.
The taught and helped is a big part Id assume me myself along with others are looking to get taught if we can do this by using the forum asking questions so can others in terms of getting taught I would be very interested as it gives me a chance to further improve and build upon skills
 
For email activity to be older than 2 months could I purchase aged accounts but id need them to be with the cc or I could manually create and generate activity on an email
you lowkey got a point here how would that work because we can't just buy an account that doesn't match the cardholder name can we?
or maybe we can can change the email address to the actual cardholder's name?
 
It is necessary to indicate an e-mail that Cardholder indicated earlier when paying by card and this payment was successful (paid before his card was stolen).
Carders indicate this e-mail, and when they themselves pay for it with a card and order spam or flood for this e-mail so that Cardkhoder does not notice a letter from the store among thousands of other letters.

Fresh-aged e-mail only adds risk glasses in the eyes of the Antifraud system and this does not mean that your payment will be rejected for this reason. The store "freezes" the payment when a certain number of risk points are scored.
 
It is necessary to indicate an e-mail that Cardholder indicated earlier when paying by card and this payment was successful (paid before his card was stolen).
Carders indicate this e-mail, and when they themselves pay for it with a card and order spam or flood for this e-mail so that Cardkhoder does not notice a letter from the store among thousands of other letters.

Fresh-aged e-mail only adds risk glasses in the eyes of the Antifraud system and this does not mean that your payment will be rejected for this reason. The store "freezes" the payment when a certain number of risk points are scored.
Thank you for providing this.
In terms of emails; I read a guide you posted earlier about them and I understand they are incredibly important. Would you recommend buying an aged email account, or creating one and waiting 2 months until you utilise it?
 
Hi again, I also just finished trying to card a few sites. None successful.
Ones that require a verification code is there anyway around this? I know sites such as https://crypton.sh/app/phone-numbers/buy offer physical phone numbers, however they don't have USA ones. Same as sms-man. Is there a work around for this.
I find the more in depth you go, the more barriers you face, and the barriers only get harder and harder to navigate around, especially as a beginner.
 
It is necessary to indicate an e-mail that Cardholder indicated earlier when paying by card and this payment was successful (paid before his card was stolen).
Carders indicate this e-mail, and when they themselves pay for it with a card and order spam or flood for this e-mail so that Cardkhoder does not notice a letter from the store among thousands of other letters.
However I have noticed that some stores send a confirmation link to emails so if we ordered a spam or flood and they didn't check we'd still be in a situation where we require full access to the email as we'd need a verification as many sites now have one of two things I have found check your email for completing registration message or something along the lines of please check your email for a code
Fresh-aged e-mail only adds risk glasses in the eyes of the Antifraud system and this does not mean that your payment will be rejected for this reason. The store "freezes" the payment when a certain number of risk points are scored.
That makes sense hence the payments being on frozen when I attempted that's quite interesting I need to increase the trust points or minimise the fraud points when and where possible it seems
 
Hi again, I also just finished trying to card a few sites.
The sites you attempted were they 2d or 3d
None successful.
Its part of the process however we are gaining practical experience and understanding the anti fraud system better this is an integral part
Ones that require a verification code is there anyway around this?
Did it send you a verification code through email or a number ?
I know sites such as https://crypton.sh/app/phone-numbers/buy offer physical phone numbers, however they don't have USA ones. Same as sms-man. Is there a work around for this.
I'm sure if we look around we can find physical numbers in the us or if the issue is we can't find US it might be worthwhile switching the maps we are working with to something that does fit so another country
I find the more in depth you go, the more barriers you face, and the barriers only get harder and harder to navigate around, especially as a beginner.
Any barriers you do face please post them and start a discussion as I'm sure it'll help me and plenty of others thank you
 
Trust mail is a postal address, an email box created using a mail service, which in the eyes of scanning robots looks like the mail of a “live” user who is trustworthy. Thanks to trust, mail and the account registered on it are less likely to be blocked.
To work with stores, you need to use proven email services, for example: tutanota.de; mail.protonmail; outlook.live; yahoo.
You can buy e-mail with tracking on the Internet, it costs less than a dollar. The only thing is that the login does not include the first and last name of the cardholder.
 
Top