Charged with fraud instore

[xndsx]

Okay well heres the jist , a indvidual i know skimmed dumps , that were that were given to another indvidual , this person proceeded to use to manufacture the skimmed dumps and then carded about 2000$ in giftcards twice and the cards were done , about a week later the same indvidual that recieved the dumps bought dumps from a vendor off a website , and procceded to card a laptop and a tv for about 2000$ , fast forward 8 months , the indvidual is pulled over in a routine traffic stop his real name ran and charged with 18 counts of fraud related charges possesion of a fake id bearing a false mark of a provience , using a fradulent credit card , fraud undeer 5000$ etc etc , the person recieves bail the same night and continues on with his life , 6 months later recieve disclosure , they have a cctv video of 2 men in the stores the laptop and tv and witness reports apparentley the police were called and the suspects had fled pictures etc were acquired detail descriptions. the giftcards a witness statment was all describing the suspects , for the rest of the charges various documents include survalince photos of alleged forged documents , print outs of credit card statments alledgedly used , good news all the stores in question are closed and trial is still 8 months away the offence being about a year ago today , anything to be worried about , this person has an exstensive criminial record for violence and drugs

 

[atas]

who you should be asking these question to is a lawyer,No one here is a lawyer do they cant answer the question like a lawyer would.I dont know how people just post there business on a forum.anyway good luck hope everything goes well for you

 

[mmx888]

good reason to ask here

who you should be asking these question to is a lawyer,No one here is a lawyer do they cant answer the question like a lawyer would.I don't know how people just post there business on a forum.anyway good luck hope everything goes well for you

Reasonable to ask here because there may be an experienced member
here who knows the ins and outs of the legal process either
through first hand experience or through others experience.

Some criminals know more than criminal lawyers about particular
legal matters just by being exposed to crime and the legal
system through out their lives, and never assume
every criminal lawyer knows what they are talking about.

 

[Badger]

your friend is absolutely going away for a long time. having a history is a huge strike, for big offenses makes it worse. Considering its 18 counts he is proper FUCKED. Doesnt matter the stores are closed, not even a little, they arent prosecuting this, the DA is.

 

[mmx888]

brief run down

... the indvidual is pulled over in a routine traffic stop his real name ran and charged with 18 counts of fraud related charges
possesion of a fake id bearing a false mark of a provience ,
using a fradulent credit card ,
fraud undeer 5000$ etc etc ,

Does the fake ID he was caught with match the Id that was used at the store ?
Did the store make photocopies of the fake ID?
Only one guy was charged out of two ?

 

[dagonxx]

How did they catch him?

 

[Ninja]

Im agree with thoughts about contacting lawer.

 

[ProfessionalsOnly]

And buy a buttplug

 

[xndsx]

umm he was caught 8 months later with no plastic no id no nothing , in a traffic stop for a out taillight , he had unendorsed warrants out for his arrest because they believe it was him, it was a warrant to detain , i forgot to mention this is a canadian case no usa, and i mentioned the stores are closed because alot of the evidence is from witnesses from those stores , there is no solid eveidence everything is digital and from a witness , and i failed to mention he has a lawyer retained and seeked legal advice and his lawyer said he deffientey has a chance of beating all charges , most of the evidence is cirumstantial , i also failed to mention theres no minimum here and a maximum of 2 years less a day concurrentley for fraud charges , he was caught because he was using printed holos like silver foil from a evolis pebble instead of heat stamped holos , the clerk was uspicious the holo wasnt multi spec and called police , the supect on question made a clean get way maybe a plate of his friends car on tape or somthing

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canadian law is a joke btw , i got convicted of 65 offences ranging from aggrevated assault to fedral obstruction of justice and possesion for the purpose , and got 14 months as my second set of serious adult charges in less then 8 months, the witnesses didnt show up for court the crown cut a deal , i pled guilty cause i got out of jail 4 months before my trial date, but back to the stuation at hand i hve no excperince with econmic crime or cyber crime , ive case refrenced o individuals who had worse then me 28 charges with a prior for fraud pickups he got 8 months house arrest 6 months probation another guy got for 4 counts of fraud under 5000$ plus a fake id and dumps on him got 2 months time served and a fine for carrying a falsfied document

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umm he was caught 8 months later with no plastic no id no nothing , in a traffic stop for a out taillight , he had unendorsed warrants out for his arrest because they believe it was him, it was a warrant to detain , i forgot to mention this is a canadian case no usa, and i mentioned the stores are closed because alot of the evidence is from witnesses from those stores , there is no solid eveidence everything is digital and from a witness , and i failed to mention he has a lawyer retained and seeked legal advice and his lawyer said he deffientey has a chance of beating all charges , most of the evidence is cirumstantial , i also failed to mention theres no minimum here and a maximum of 2 years less a day concurrentley for fraud charges , he was caught because he was using printed holos like silver foil from a evolis pebble instead of heat stamped holos , the clerk was uspicious the holo wasnt multi spec and called police , the supect on question made a clean get way maybe a plate of his friends car on tape or somthing

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canadian law is a joke btw , i got convicted of 65 offences ranging from aggrevated assault to fedral obstruction of justice and possesion for the purpose , and got 14 months as my second set of serious adult charges in less then 8 months, the witnesses didnt show up for court the crown cut a deal , i pled guilty cause i got out of jail 4 months before my trial date, but back to the stuation at hand i hve no excperince with econmic crime or cyber crime , ive case refrenced o individuals who had worse then me 28 charges with a prior for fraud pickups he got 8 months house arrest 6 months probation another guy got for 4 counts of fraud under 5000$ plus a fake id and dumps on him got 2 months time served and a fine for carrying a falsfied document

both of the mentioned indivudals were cuahgt in the act the first with 28 charges was cuaght with a 100 made dumps an id and 13 macbook pros

 

[pocoy0]

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[mmx888]

You may have answered your own question

...this is a canadian case no usa,

favorable position to be in,looking good so far. Don't sweat it.

, good news all the stores in question are closed...

... Doesnt matter the stores are closed, not even a little, they arent prosecuting this, the DA is...

i got convicted of offences ranging from aggrevated assault to federal obstruction of justice and possesion for the purpose , and got 14 months as my second set of serious adult charges in less then 8 months, the witnesses didnt show up for court the crown cut a deal ...

Badger, this is why xndsx means it was good that the store closed, witnesses not showing up happens all the time,
the store clerks may have moved state even to find new jobs,
changed tel numbers etc etc.

your friend is absolutely going away for a long time. having a history is a huge strike, for big offenses makes it worse. Considering its 18 counts he is proper FUCKED. Doesnt matter the stores are closed, not even a little, they arent prosecuting this, the DA is.

Am I the only one, but did Badger sound like a Preacher giving a sermon about Hell? Anyone?

No hell in Canada for carders, more like
'Canada, Carders Paradise' and welcome mat for carders.
Another case in point,
Dron got out relatively quickly from Canadian jail,and
he was shipping atm skimmers out from Canada world wide
(I'm not sure if he had any serious priors though).
Gotta love those Canadians.

Perhaps we should all move to Canada? Poll ?


Possible Verdict:
Nothing to worry about

 

[ProfessionalsOnly]

Canada not so good anymore

 

[xndsx]

well im glad to hear that , i wanted to know if we should take action , move provinces, remove witnesses etc , we still got around a year to trial

 

[ProfessionalsOnly]

Get out of Canada while you can.

 

[CDN-VEN]

Canada not so good anymore

Canada is awesome, they might be starting to tighten up on some fraud and marijuana offence's but once the Conservatives lose power and Liberals are back in. Most of those laws will get changed.

I'm waiting for Liberals to come back, so us Canadian's can go back to the good old days..

Get out of Canada while you can.

Why get out of Canada and go where to the US, so that you can get arrested for the same offence and spend 30 years or maybe LIFE.. Canada is probably the BEST country in the world for criminals. Are justice system is AWESOME!!!


Also thread poster, Who got charged the first individual that actually skimmed the dumps or the one that bought the dumps..

 

[Stellla]

well im glad to hear that , i wanted to know if we should take action , move provinces, remove witnesses etc , we still got around a year to trial

fuck man ;/ i feeling so bad for u good like to you bdw