AVS systems

[E46]

Hello, i've read once on this forum someone talking about if you want your orders to not decline because of AVS systems you can use a card which is from a country where they dont check AVS. Is it still applicable in 2024, and do i have to find a webiste/shop that doesnt check AVS or just a card from another country is enough?

*Also if someone can get the original thread it would help me sm*
Thank you!

 

[risktaker42069]

Currently, major credit card companies like Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and Discover offer AVS services in the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand
It's important to note that AVS only works within the country where the cardholder lives, and cannot be used to verify foreign credit cards.

 

[slaveoflife]

Hello, i've read once on this forum someone talking about if you want your orders to not decline because of AVS systems you can use a card which is from a country where they dont check AVS. Is it still applicable in 2024, and do i have to find a webiste/shop that doesnt check AVS or just a card from another country is enough?

*Also if someone can get the original thread it would help me sm*
Thank you!

Any website that asks for billing will check if the billing is correct or not especially in the US

Sites like Spotify don't ask for billing so you can use any card

 

[E46]

Any website that asks for billing will check if the billing is correct or not especially in the US

Sites like Spotify don't ask for billing so you can use any card

oh ok so does that mean if i order something with a card that's from a country that do not have an AVS system and the delivery address is in the US the order will not go trough?

Btw i found the thread : https://carder.market/threads/the-100-non-vbv-method.152619/post-687942

 

[Mahgunner]

Even Shopify checks Avs brother, if you use a card that doesn't not have Avs , the country of the billing must Match the Real billing country of the Card so it'll be a problem because the shipping and the billing will both be from different countries, that'll raise for sure red flags !
Your best option will always be is that u use a card near to ur address/drop and put the real Billing info ( Name can be the same as shipping)

 

[slaveoflife]

oh ok so does that mean if i order something with a card that's from a country that do not have an AVS system and the delivery address is in the US the order will not go trough?

Btw i found the thread : https://carder.market/threads/the-100-non-vbv-method.152619/post-687942

If the card has no AVS the system will not know if the billing address provided is correct or not, but they can still see the country of origin of the card if I'm not mistaken, if you plan to ship internationally take on account that most shops will not do this or will require some type of extra verification, I recommend you to use US CC's and just ship to a drop service address, this is way easier, trust me

And about the post you linked he is correct on almost everything except some stores have antifraud systems that can check the validity of the email, so newly registered emails will appear very suspicious, also this non vbv thing is not black or white, the fact that a card is not VBV does not mean that any order will go trough, it only means that it will save your ass if your setup is not good enough to bypass OTP, I use a lot of cards that are VBV and 90% of the time they don't ask me for OTP

You should be more concerned about finding high quality CC's than non vbv CC's

 

[pussyboisa]

If the card has no AVS the system will not know if the billing address provided is correct or not, but they can still see the country of origin of the card if I'm not mistaken, if you plan to ship internationally take on account that most shops will not do this or will require some type of extra verification, I recommend you to use US CC's and just ship to a drop service address, this is way easier, trust me

And about the post you linked he is correct on almost everything except some stores have antifraud systems that can check the validity of the email, so newly registered emails will appear very suspicious, also this non vbv thing is not black or white, the fact that a card is not VBV does not mean that any order will go trough, it only means that it will save your ass if your setup is not good enough to bypass OTP, I use a lot of cards that are VBV and 90% of the time they don't ask me for OTP

You should be more concerned about finding high quality CC's than non vbv CC's

Do you use the location of the cc holder state or exact zip is requried

 

[risktaker42069]

Do you use the location of the cc holder state or exact zip is requried

Location for set up?
Try to use the city he lives in,if not avaible-match the closest city to his

 

[slaveoflife]

Do you use the location of the cc holder state or exact zip is requried

I use iCloud relay IP which is dynamic, the antifraud system can not do nothing about it because every iPhone has this type of IP, so blocking their ISP would mean blocking every person with an iPhone from making purchases in their store

 

[E46]

If the card has no AVS the system will not know if the billing address provided is correct or not, but they can still see the country of origin of the card if I'm not mistaken, if you plan to ship internationally take on account that most shops will not do this or will require some type of extra verification, I recommend you to use US CC's and just ship to a drop service address, this is way easier, trust me

And about the post you linked he is correct on almost everything except some stores have antifraud systems that can check the validity of the email, so newly registered emails will appear very suspicious, also this non vbv thing is not black or white, the fact that a card is not VBV does not mean that any order will go trough, it only means that it will save your ass if your setup is not good enough to bypass OTP, I use a lot of cards that are VBV and 90% of the time they don't ask me for OTP

You should be more concerned about finding high quality CC's than non vbv CC's

Oh ok i get it now preciate it also do you think enrolls is worth buying instead of a regular cvv or not lmk thank you

 

[slaveoflife]

Oh ok i get it now preciate it also do you think enrolls is worth buying instead of a regular cvv or not lmk thank you

Enrolls are good for sites that use micro deposits instead of OTP for verification purposes, debit enrolls are especially good because the chargeback takes ages, I personally use them for long hotels reservations, also depending on the bank you can change the billing address/phone number linked to the card

 

[E46]

Ok thank you sm bro

Enrolls are good for sites that use micro deposits instead of OTP for verification purposes, debit enrolls are especially good because the chargeback takes ages, I personally use them for long hotels reservations, also depending on the bank you can change the billing address/phone number linked to the card