Sharing some miserable experience from myself, for noobs.

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I'm a new carder. Just want to share some experience. Because I'm a noob also, so maybe my experience will make you laugh at me, never mind. But please give some ideas after your laughing.

I started card In Australia several weeks ago. I bought dumps mostly from webs, few from ICQ vendors. I used 97 dumps, shopped 9700$ from them. Eliminate my runners salary, I sold the goods at about 65% discount to get cash. finally I got about 3500$. Buying these dumps cost me about 4500$. So it's a failure to me.

I rethink of my experience, some reasons I found.
1. Most people tell a noob, the most important thing to be a carder is find a good vendor. Actually I haven't find one and I didn't pay enough attention to this. most of my 97 dumps are generated. Even in the same web I bought five same bin dumps, 4/5 are generated. So for a new carder, you MUST KNOW WHAT IS GENERATED DUMPS, And FIND A GOOD VENDOR before you start your job. Some one told me some of the generated dumps could be useful, but my experience told me NOT.

2. As a junior member here says, GOOD VENDORS CHANGE WEEKLY. The first time I bought dumps from a web, it seems good, but the next time i buy from it. It was bad. So spend more times to know a vendor before you totally trust him.

3. Do not use the good bin so frequently. It will kill it. When I find a good bin, I tried to buy some more the next day. Some times they works, but most time they don't. A junior carder told me, make a log about good bins. and use them regulally.

This is what I summarize from my experience. Could some one give me some good suggestions about good vendor, how to choose bins, good bins in Australia? Thanks a lot.
 

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I used 97 dumps, shopped 9700$ from them. Eliminate my runners salary, I sold the goods at about 65% discount to get cash. finally I got about 3500$. Buying these dumps cost me about 4500$. So it's a failure to me.

97 dumps and get 9.7k = 100$ per card ( not superb )
that why at end when salary paid etc .. u are in 1000$ of debits .

this is 1st reason coz 100 dumps to shop only 10k not superb .

most of my 97 dumps are generated. Even in the same web I bought five same bin dumps, 4/5 are generated. So for a new carder, you MUST KNOW WHAT IS GENERATED DUMPS, And FIND A GOOD VENDOR before you start your job. Some one told me some of the generated dumps could be useful, but my experience told me NOT.

Generated dumps is CC data transformed into dumps format
Ex:
cc number = 4567812000001234 exp 12/12 CVV 123
he generate as =4567812000001234=12121010000001230000

SO when u they check this dumps on checker via format CC=EXP U can got approved but when try swipe (or full track checking ) u get Decline or other shit result .

But if u do 10k of shop not all ur 97 dumps was generated .


2. As a junior member here says, GOOD VENDORS CHANGE WEEKLY. The first time I bought dumps from a web, it seems good, but the next time i buy from it. It was bad. So spend more times to know a vendor before you totally trust him.

Yes & No . Good vendor stay good ( Loook at me :D ) just base quality Up & DOWN
some seller was resellers from other resellers etc ... this is how business goes . Trust Only verified vendors on Serious board .

3. Do not use the good bin so frequently. It will kill it. When I find a good bin, I tried to buy some more the next day. Some times they works, but most time they don't. A junior carder told me, make a log about good bins. and use them regulally.

Always Better Bins per Country/city , this is Job of all carders to find right bins for City to hit Big ...

Atleast Fresh base always better ... coz some bins can be good at first of sales of DB and after 200pc solved from same Bin/base rates and success start too Down .


Work + wORK + work + hARD study = Succes Key ... no other issue
 

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you say you got 97 dumps....
does a dump to you mean 1 card, or a list of several...?
your numbers seemed off which Is why I was asking...
 

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Don't worry this is not your fault and for a beginer you did pretty good(acceptable) if u consider that u taked from begining workers.

Most new carders prefer to go alone or whit partner a time to raise some capital and for security until aford paying others to work and keep a steady income. My opinion, maybe you hurried a little and your expectations was too high.

These times now just by having dumps don't mean u make money, buy a mix pack let's say 100 pcs but make sure to be from a vendor whit good reviews bcs if base is bad you prob will loose allot of good bins bcs of base quality.

Shops are not good, from my experience i buy dumps from shop only when my vendors are busy offline etc. Buy direct from vendor whit good review and you will be more happy.
 

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After reading your post.. there is one thing that raise a question.
You got items worth 9700$, and sold the items for about 3500$, meaning 65% discount as you said, is that correct?

That seems very bad to me. What items are you buying? Maybe you should do a research and only buy items that is good to sell. For example apple products like: IPAD, IPOD, Macbook (depending on price limit).

Because when I sell apple items I usally sell for only 15-20% Discount.. and other electronics items I at least get 60-70% of the real price. Please correct me if I misunderstood and sorry my bad gramming.
 

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100$ from each dumps is not a good hit..
Also you should buy same bins from all the vendors you can, dont buy 10-20 first deal.. deal just for 1-5 pieces, that ways you know who has good stuff and who doesnt.. the stuff that works for u good, go bak to the same vendor ask for more dump ;)

Your relation with the seller should be good, if he doesnt entertain you, you are a waste of time.. and once you collect some good capital invest into a skimmer op... this goes on and on and on!
 

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After reading your post.. there is one thing that raise a question.
You got items worth 9700$, and sold the items for about 3500$, meaning 65% discount as you said, is that correct?
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He say he got 3.5k after Eliminate Shoppers Salary .
so he got 9700$ stuff sold at 65% of retails price ( that good ) , PAY his runners and got at end 3500 of gain .

His lost was just due too Low quality of dumps ( 100$ per dumps )
for get at 4500 FOR 100pc ( means 45$ pc )

Think that is here he Lost on this operation , coz rest seems good way .
 

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Do not buy more that 5-10 dumps of same bin from same dump base off one vendor.The reason your dumps from same bin and vendor didn't work next day was they were able so see where the stolen dumps might have been hacked from and they flagged the rest of them. Best to buy from other vendors too,,same bin should work again. And allways use vendor that has 24hr replace so you can get credit for dead dumps
 

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I thought maybe not many people will reply my thread. So I missed to tell some more details. Thanks for everyone. I'll say some thing more detail.

97 dumps, here I mean 97 cards, not a list of same ones or something like that.

Not as Rome0 said, 100$ per card. 13 of 97 dumps worked.

(I'm not quite sure whether it's allowed to share bins number here, I hide some digits. If some one want to know the exact bin, PM me. But I 'm not quite sure they are still useable in AUS)

***805 600$ Aus bin
***655 400$ Aus bin
***822 300$ Aus bin
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***468 600$ Aus bin
***469 800$ Aus bin
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***468 800$ Aus bin
***468 400$ Aus bin
***468 800$ Aus bin
***468 600$ Aus bin
***468 600$ Aus bin
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***018 200$ US bin
***368 2100$ EU bin
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***601 1200$ EU bin

From these results, I made my third conculsion. ***468 and ***469 was OK in the first day. But only ***468 works still well the next day(I tried 5 more ***469 the next day also. they were all failure.) And ***308 and ***601 worked well the first day, but none worked well the next day.

Generated dumps some time are easy to find out. But some times not.
Example:
***4680011897542=13072016754275427910
If not so careful, we will think this is not a generated dumps. But If we look more carefully. I can find the track2 could be divided to 1307 201 6 7542 7542 791 0. They are expire date, service code, number 6, last four number of PAN, last four number of PAN, CVV, number 0. So, it's also a generated dump.

But just as I said in the first conclusion, most generated dumps could not work well, but some could. The dumps as example above was true dump, It worked, and five worked.(you can see my work out list above).

So, generated dumps, If could , we should avoid them. But some clever people may find out some other way to use them. Maybe this could help them to cut down their cost.

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I'm not a rich man(rich man won't be a carder :)), so when I begin to buy dumps, the price of the dumps is a important factor when I decide which vendor to buy from. People always believe, The higher the price, the better the quality of the merchandise. It's not quite useable in dumps buying. because we could find some vendors between rippers and good ones. Too cheap dumps should not be trusted, also too expensive dumps are not quite necessary. This is another experience from myself.
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Thanks maxx_tt, I missed the factor. I'll try this next times.
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Thanks Rome0, when I decide to start my job again I'll try some your dumps.
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Thanks cucc, but nowadays rippers are much much more than good vendors. Buy from too many vendors means too much risk to me. At least now I cannot do that.
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Thanks to turbobox, I buy cigarettes and prepaid phone cards. Buy something like Iphone needs to go to big malls and with 201 cards. It's could not be used here nowadays.
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Thanks to maxinice, I also have a feeling maybe vendors without websites should be more trustable. But find a good vendor with ICQ is harder than find a website :)..
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Nowadays, it seems most bins are blocked. 201 works better, but they cannot be used here. It's really hard to find good 101 bins. some one give me some ideas? Thanks a lot.
 

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The **468 australia bins look the best one for you ..
13 dumps worked and make 9.7k it is very good :) ( just Big waste of 74 dead/locked dumps )

My advice : invest 20pc of **468 bins from good vendors think if u got 80% approved rates and work as u say before , you make some good $

Cheers ..
PS: post here Bins , dumps u used not so good , LE check our board too .
 
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