saer - 578275361 - time waster and not deliver what's asked for

[krylon]

i made payment on that day, because you don't respond for that many days. what exactly did you confirm? That I wanted 4 credit reports? Where does it say in any of your messages that good ones cost more? Nowhere. I told you in PM I wanted good ones, so that is what anybody with a brain would assume they are getting. nowhere did you ever fucking mention +750, neither did I. I said I wanted "GOOD" you gave me "BAD" "BK" all accounts are closed or seriously delinquent. Why the hell would I replace a card like that? do you understand that? YOU SAY YOU HAVE GOOD SCORES. YOU NEVER FUCKING TOLD ME IF I WANTED A BAD SCORE? NO! I SAID I WANTED GOOD SCORE, WHY WOULD I CHANGE MY MIND AND WANT A BAD SCORE? tell me einstein!!

fucking genius. now quit wasting time. ESSEN DOES NOT VEND BAD SCORES IDIOT! 800 scores, he sells for a little bit more, but nowhere do you have to choose that you don't want a bad report. This is a common sense?! you think we're in this business to work shit with no money? For practice?

Idiot.

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where the fuck did i ask you for free samples? Read your shit you are posting moron! you paste them in windows without me asking anything! Any vendor with half a brain, if they're showing example data, will use false info. You my friend, are the stupidest person I've had the pleasure of meeting on any forum, since CP/SC. 2 words only to describe you, is FUCKING IDIOT!

 

[krylon]

by test it does not mean sample. It means test order. If they are good, I will buy 10, like I originally asked you for in the PM.

ok, this is the last post i'm making.. sorry, but i don't really know what else to tell you. I'll let ninja make his decision. Ninja do you know anyone who would originally ask for good scores, and then when they order want a bad one?

Friday, June 10, 2011 the user asked free samples:


Sunday, June 19, 2011 user made payment and i asked what he want:

i confirmed with user on what he looking for. there is no record about score on order request details if there was "+750 score" word on order details i will said +80$ instead of 50$. (essen even sell for 100$ high score profiles with DL#)

 

[sa3er]

the profiles you got are not bad. i asked what you wanna do and you said you wanna call the bank and request replace card and other accounts. the profiles you got have several open accounts. so it is good. score is different story

 

[Ninja]

Im agreed with sa3er in that.
Coz in last icq convo i didnt saw what u're asking GOOD score. Coz u asked for full data.
Lets do with this please. U said what data was truncated. What that means? And where they're truncated?

 

[krylon]

truncated means that the is not the full account number it is on credit report partial meaning it is 41427XXXXXXXXX. and that is what is on it.

 

[Ninja]

sa3er
Refund ALL report which was truncated, means NOT FULL.

Waiting for confirmation from both of you. It really become a mess.

 

[krylon]

here was last posting now, but i wrote a novel, so it timed out, and I have to repost for you.

The whole deal was done in PM's you're an admin, and you have access to check our pm box. the only reason I even log onto ICQ was get delivery of my order, and paste him LR transfer. I asked this guy for good credit from the beginning, am I really going to want a bad credit where the account is seriously delinquient, with negative balance? Good credit does not mean a +750 score. That is EXCELLENT credit. Which I never asked for. I only wanted good CR's. Not junk that was given. Look, it's proof here, that the guy is wrong. There is plenty of proof. He even posts proof contradicting his self. how long must we play his game?

(1:37:12 PM) 364000:   Payment Mode  Account    Date  06/18/2011 20:36    Batch  63642810    From  U5104772 (krylon)    To  U5469504 (ash)    Amount  $200.00  
(10:12:22 PM) 578275361: ok
(10:13:07 PM) 578275361: 4 CA cr ?

at 10:13:07 he is asking me I only wanted 4
I have confirmed nothing yet.
Notice I sent LR, he replies 9hr later. HE is confirming the NUMBER of reports i wanted that we discussed. He never mentioned anything of having varying type of better grade or worse grade. He knows from beginning I only want good score. So I don't know where he is getting this +750 he is talking about. There was never discussed EXCELLENT CREDIT. only good credit. And he never mention even having variety of score etc. etc. everything was believe to be good quality from him.

(11:05:59 PM) 364000: 5 bro

I have told him I paid for 5 because he told me in the PM, it was 40. Still no confirmation on my end like he is saying I confirmed

(11:06:34 PM) 364000: you said 40 each with mmn/ssn/dob living in caiifornia, southern. like laguna hills, orange county.  with credit report that has full account numbers

Can you see My request? southern california right? full account numbers on credit report right?
This is the last message I sent him, just a reminder of what I was supposed to get. There is still no confirmation that he keeps talking about that I sent him to send me bad reports?There is no talk of +750 or different prices for that because He never even talked about having differnt levels. I asked him if he had good scores with full infos in the credit report, and he says yes. So, why I need to bring it up when I paste LR, and wait the .rar?

(11:07:28 PM) 578275361: man i said 50 ...
(11:07:35 PM) 364000: i have msg on carder.market
(11:07:37 PM) 364000: i can paste
(11:07:39 PM) 364000: but 4 is cool
(11:07:41 PM) 364000: i don't care

my confirmation telling him to send 4 then. As you can see, he has already read my msg to him at 11:06:34 of me telling him what I want exactly. not how he is making it seem, that he has somehow sent my order, without knowing what I wanted exactly.

(11:07:53 PM) 364000: men bro, not 80 years old please. :)
(11:08:05 PM) 578275361: ok wait

now he agrees to send me what I have requested right?


Now he tries to make an extra 10LR per each report off me, when I have logs in PM. But you know what? I don't care. 10LR is nothing. You must put money so you can test, and find new business right?


so, look, ALL deal on specifications of what I wanted and what he is selling to me is in PM. logs have been pasted you have seen.

He is asking me how much do I pay essen for reports(never talked about essen's +750 excellent credit at all either. by the way, I highly reccommend essens stuff to everyone. . And I told him 80. And he said next time pay me 80. So he obviously is comparing the stuff he is going to give me is A+++ quality like essens correct? Not D-- So you see, he knows what I wanted, and how much I pay, and he knows he is charging me 50(was supposed to be 40, original agreed upon price)for the same thing.

(11:16:15 PM) 364000: he double price now
(11:16:29 PM) 578275361: how much their price ?
(11:16:45 PM) 364000: 85 bro, for specific 
(11:16:50 PM) 364000: like age range, male female , cities
(11:17:03 PM) 578275361: next time pay me more then :D

 

[sa3er]

sa3er
Refund ALL report which was truncated, means NOT FULL.

Waiting for confirmation from both of you. It really become a mess.

He is cheating , there is 3 credit bureaus: Equifax, Experian and Transunion
their credit reports never contain full card numbers for security! and the user know it very well. if he ever got a CR which card numbers are not truncate tell him post it here as proof then i will refund full money because i'm 100% sure they never give full card numbers on credit reports. (i wonder why you don't know it lol)
however he don't need full card numbers bcoz as i explained before this Nigerian bastards will call banks and tell them my card is damaged and request replacement card with full info...

ps: i hate Nigerians

 

[sa3er]

still waiting topic get remove.

 

[Ninja]

Seems like you ignoring what i wrote before.
Its your choice.
You have 48hrs to fix that problem.

 

[sa3er]

Seems like you ignoring what i wrote before.
Its your choice.
You have 48hrs to fix that problem.

actually i didn't ignored. i answered already but i try explain better again:
You wrote Refund for all "truncated" credit reports as i understand (if i'm wrong tell me) but our deal was for credit reports which is truncated; there is no untruncated credit report which show full credit card numbers on it (you can ask on forum to verify its true)
truecredit.com/pdf/learnCenter/Reading_Your_Report.pdf

the user know it for sure (if he didn't know that credit reports have no full credit number then its not my fault because when somebody ask me to buy something and pay then i think he know stuff look like) so he can't ask refund because of truncated card details and its completely wrong. its his fault. he must research about credit reports before buying and find out that there is no victim's full card details on the report

ps:he know these very well , he just cheating

 

[krylon]

Yes these do exist I used to have them. Hard to find vnlendor who have them. You said you have them. Quit lying. I never ask you for truncated. Everything I ask for is on this post. On logs.

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If you read Essen ad, you will see he used to vend this. Stop lying about everything. If you hate Nigerians, quit acting like one and give back the LR. its only 150. But I guess that will buy you a lot of zebra to eat in Nigeria?

 

[sa3er]

Yes these do exist I used to have them. Hard to find vnlendor who have them. You said you have them. Quit lying. I never ask you for truncated. Everything I ask for is on this post. On logs.

ok so now you say refund because card details is truncated in credit report. well i know you cheating as hell so i'm gonna post this question on forum and ask people credit report have full card details or truncated. if people say credit reports are truncated (which is clear like a day) Ninja have to remove this topic and do something with this user because of cheating.
posted:
http://carder.market/showthread.php?p=246357

 

[krylon]

i asked you this from the beginning if you have reports with full account numbers. why you say yes? No I ask for refund because all of the questions i ask if you have, you say yes, and you don't and you deliver not what i ask for. Not 1 criteria.

 

[esesen]

1, base on info in format like that you never get any high score ( even 700+ score ) cause that type of info was got from loan sites database, only poor people get loan then.

[16:29] ShadowKid: ok.. i need lets do test.. give me 4xmales, ssn/dl/mmn/ address good score, full account numbers. 1960 - 1980 dob cities in california, orange county. if you can do Tustin / Costa Mesa / Westminster / Garden Grove / Brea / La Habra
[16:30] 578275361: | 119007 | Nov 30 12:00AM | | NA | VANESSA | AMAYA | | VANESSA_A27@YAHOO.COM | OLIVER27 | 1739 S WESTMORELAND AVE | | LOS ANGELES | California | 90006 | (323)945-3731 | 11/21/1977 | 623-11-6729 | B7334914 | WAMU | 173 | 3094225642 | 322271627 | CENTRO DE AYUDA | 3 Year(s) 8 Month(s) | | '| 119004 | Nov 30 12:00AM | | NA | Kerry | McGrauth | Todd | lorrie_bowyer@yahoo.com | ilovekali | 2869 Mendoza Dr. Unit B | | Costa Mesa | California | 92626 | (714)366-3176 | 11/07/1982 | 553-73-1795 | D8888786 | Bank of America | 2097 | 1026043200 | 122000661 | Platinum Capital Group | 0 Year(s) 6 Month(s) | | '| 118995 | Nov 30 12:00AM | | NA | Jeremy | Gabis | | jgabis@fuse.net | parker1 | 771 SUMMIT ST | | COLUMBUS | Ohio | 43215 | (859)866-8899 | 07/24/1982 | 405-33-1215 | G98-138-940 | Huntington National Bank | 1101 | 02897382829 | 044000024 | Ohio State University | 1 Year(s) 10 Month(s) | | '

2. was able to get credit report with completed account number ( about 6-9 months ago ), but now the bureaus changed the policy, they dont offer that type of credit report any more.

AMERICAN EXPRESS #3499906507459893



PO BOX 981537
EL PASO , TX 79998
(800) 874-2717

Balance:
$1,856
Date Updated:
05/2010
High Balance:
$7,745
Credit Limit:
$16,000
Past Due:
$0
Pay Status:
Paid or Paying as Agreed
Account Type:
Revolving Account
Responsibility:
Individual Account
Date Opened:
01/2005


CHASE BANK USA NA #4266841189548280



PO BOX 15298
WILMINGTON , DE 19850
(800) 955-9900

Balance:
$1,843
Date Updated:
05/2010
High Balance:
$9,088
Credit Limit:
$24,600
Past Due:
$0
Terms:
Minimum $36
Pay Status:
Paid or Paying as Agreed
Account Type:
Revolving Account
Responsibility:
Authorized Account
Date Opened:
11/1973
Loan Type: Credit Card

i dont mean who is wrong in this case, cause its not easy to get profiles with krylon's specific.
@sa3er you are better to confirm again specific before you say price or process order, its very useful when you have too many customers.

 

[sa3er]

Yes these do exist I used to have them

even @carder.market/showthread.php?p=246911 people confirmed there is no full card number on the report. this is not cheating ninja ?? he say have such things which don't exist ! this is lie very clear oO

If you read Essen ad, you will see he used to vend this

they say that to collect customers ...
this is a sample directly from essen site :
http://wowscore.biz/sample.htm
you can see that there is no full account numbers.

base on info in format like that you never get any high score ( even 700+ score ) cause that type of info was got from loan sites database, only poor people get loan then.

he didn't asked high score , i asked what he wanna do an he said will call the bank for replace card and i gave reports to him with several open accounts.

was able to get credit report with completed account number ( about 6-9 months ago ), but now the bureaus changed the policy, they dont offer that type of credit report any more.

well even 1 year ago none of those creditors didn't gave such thing bcoz is wrong from basic. there is no point to give full card number on the credit report and transunion , Equifax or experian didn't such thing 1 year ago as i have several credit reports from past year which are same like now



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ps: Hey ninja i think i posted enough proofs which he is lying...

 

[Ninja]

I see what esesen confirmed what his data is not truncated.
And thats proof of his position instead of yours.

You both acting like a childs.
You ruin your own reputation for nothin'.

 

[sa3er]

I see what esesen confirmed what his data is not truncated.
And thats proof of his position instead of yours.

You both acting like a childs.
You ruin your own reputation for nothin'.

esesen use Equifax as i saw here : http://wowscore.biz/sample.htm
also esesen can't say i provide this or not because he is not a credit bureau. he is a normal guy and get credit report from equifax,experian,transunion. as this 3 company never give full card number (because they don't have to) so nobody have credit report with full card details on it. thats no so hard to understand i wonder why on this forum nobody know how credit reports work and i have to explain everything !

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[krylon]

Ninja, I just want him to resolve issues. I even had essen to come post in this thread for me so he will see that it used to exist till a little bit ago they stopped selling the full account numbers on credit report. But the guy is still even saying it never exist? I asked him in the beginning, if he had these. He said yes. I dont know how he gets his reports nor do I care, it'snot my business, I figured he had stockpile of credit reports and profiles, which is why I was very happy when he said he had these. I won't post on this anymore. If this guy doesent want to do whats right and make a refund, with all facts that point to him being wrong, I guess his rep is only worth 150LR.

I have a headache this huge just trying to figure his logic behind all logs on his face, but yet, he still deny everything?

I'm done on this post ninja. He looks like he doesen't want to do refund? Guess just lock this topic and leave him unresolved? Or red? I really don't care.. Sorry for wasting your time and everyone elses with this crap, I really did not think this guy would take it this far. I figured with his rep, and being a member here for quite sometime, he would have a little more class, and refund in beginning.

So, to all carder.market, I apologize for wasting your time. It's like I'm a magnet, and they're attracted to me.

 

[AndyDufresne]

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