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Lecturer Dr Hannibal Lecter
[19:29:15] hello everyone, let's start
[19:29:47] today we'll talk, perhaps, about one of the most profitable topics in carding - air tickets
[19:30:13] first I'll tell you about different options for obtaining tickets [19:30:38] then we will talk about the safety of this whole event
[19:30:54] and only then I will answer your questions, including on hotels and in general on yesterday's topic
[19:31:19] So , what are the options: AGENTS - FORM - REVARDS - DRIVING INTO AK
[19:31:51] agents
[19:32:11] an agent is an intermediary, for example, bravofly.com, between a huge number of airlines and a passenger, while payment goes to the agent this option is safe for the one who is flying, since when all questions to the intermediary who issued the ticket
[19:32:52] most often, agents are sites with merchandise with payment from VBV
[19:33:09] that is, we have three options here:
[19:33:38] CC + VBV = the reservation holds the best, but the checkmate is very expensive and it is very difficult to find it
[19:33:57] In euro, the merchandise of the mat usa + vbv used to climb normally - now it does not really climb either)))
[19:34:25] CC novbv bins here a rally is possible at any time, it very much depends on the SS country on the merch itself and on a lot of other things some time ago there were merchaunt that AmEx hawali, and if you carding Australia or New Zealand with AmEx, then they gave now this method is less effective, since everyone was reading and delaying fraud there are still merch without vbv, but there are very few of them and they are very tough)))
[19:36:12] I have been dealing with tickets for quite a long time, and I will give some advice:
[19:37:08] if you decide to try yourself in this field - make sure that you know how to drive at all, without experience with staff, gift, etc., you do not need to start at all, since here you need experience in understanding how antifraud works , and in setting up the machine for driving both in the drawings and in the calls do not start the search for air merchandise without good capital - which you can safely drain learn to work systemically that is, when you find a certain merch that you think should give, you should develop a system for testing it you should try different mate
[19:38:34] You need to test different destinations
[19:38:49] Different booking times, etc.
[19:39:11] Different amounts of purchased tickets
[19:39:41] Before you fly yourself or send customers, you must be 100% convinced that your method is reliable !!!
[19:40:09] today Topic air strongly beaten, and even mat with vbv makes no guarantees of success depending on the airline and the destinations of the passengers at the front can request rendering CC, for example, all nuances you should know in advance
[19:41:04] Very often the payment goes well, tickets are given but a meeting occurs, most often it is an additional payment check or something else
[19:41:18] Here you need to ring up and understand the reasons for the meeting, so that you can work more productively
[19:41:38] When working with the VBV mat, it is worth considering driving in more detail:
[19:42:07] We set up the virtual machine, everything should be perfect, after driving in, we clean it, if we use Antic, then we clean it
[19:42: 35] We buy a sock or a tunnel, it is important that it is fast and clean, we select as close as possible to the IP cardholder data on IP cardholder and user agent cardholder we get from the CC + VBV seller
[19:43:05] We go to the agent's website, if we hit VBV, then we need to know 100% that he is there), choose a ticket, pay for
[19:43:22] Using the example of CC + VBV DE, I will describe what is there
[19 : 43: 56] CC DE FULL INFO CLASSIC (these are classic bins), the price for such ss is from 25 to 50 euros (limit-guarantee on average 500 euros), material sellers usually say that it beats an average of 1500 euros
[19:44:31 ] CC DE FULL INFO HIGH (these are bins from premium to corporate), the price of such CC is up to 75 euros. CC HIGHs come with a limit guarantee of up to 750 euros
[19:44:56] CC DE FULL INFO BUISNESS (bins of business and corporate cards and etc.), the price of such CC is up to 90 euros, the limit-guarantee is up to 1300-1500 euros
[19:45:11] it is clear that the numbers are average, and the guarantee limit and the price can differ significantly also at the moment there are sellers who do not give a guarantee limit at all they take advantage of the fact that such a mat is rare and is in great demand we never buy full cards - SPARKASSEN (bank name), firstly petty, secondly a powerful anti-fraud system, thirdly, there are no replacements for them
[19:46 : 40] Limit guarantee - this, for example, we bought CC DE FULL INFO HIGH and it says LimitGarantee - 750 EURO, we do it by driving in 600-700 euros and ss does not work, then they change it, even if it is valid
[19:46:57] Naturally, if the card is not valid, a replacement is also made all the sellers do the replacement of CC strictly when providing video input
[19:47:30] Therefore it is worth downloading and installing the Bandicam program
[19 : 47: 59] The video should start from the moment the CC was opened from the seller in a note, then show that you have a clean sock / tunnel (check2ip.com) and end either with a successful drive or with problems resetting the vbv, etc.)
[19:49: 22] You can download it here: http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5022971
[19:49:22] The format of the issued ss is usual, but plus to this in the DE fullck goes:
[19:49:22] Gaberstatum (shortly speaking DOB)
[19:49:22] Kontonummer (account number from 7-10 digits)
[19:49:22] Servicenummer (not all tsts)
[19:49:36 ] Bankleitzahl (bank number for other banks, usually does not ask for it, since it is the same in the bank)
[19:50:11] SC is the corresponding Security code, for us it is known as EBV, but a very big BUT, in 70% of cases not needed, since in German banks the SK is automatically reset every 30 days it turns out that we activate the SK every time using the Kontonummer (account number), Gaberstatum (ext), Gultigkeit (expiration date) and Profziffer (sv2 code - three-digit code)
[19:50:53] We memorize the basic mailers needed to work with DE: web.de, gmx.net, t-online.de these are free, or you can use Gmail or corpses
[19:51 : 39] We make mail on them under the holder
[19:52:22] We drive in the passenger's data, drive in the card data, change the VBV and if everything works out, then we rejoice. If the card is invalid, does not have enough funds to the agreed-upon limit, does not change the VBV, put Bandikam to stop, fill in the sendspace, send and forward replacement from seller.
[19:52:45] At seller VBV say at once - this info private, and with experience you and you will find it
[19:53:02] An important nuance
[19:53:29] Yesterday, in my lecture on hotels, I spoke in detail about services such as booking.com
[19:54:06] Let me remind you that these services do not have their own merchandise and simply transmit your data to the AC and the airline is already processing them
[19:55:35] At the same time, you may not see it yourself
That is, when you make a reservation through an aggregator like skyscanner, you see that you went to another site when paying
[19:56:50] And when booking on vayama you do not go anywhere, but the airline whose flight you make takes the money !!!
[19:57:04] In fact, this is a direct drive with all the ensuing consequences
[19:57:25] How to figure it out:
[19:57:57] there are two methods - to drive tests from the video and see who wrote off the money
[19:58:30] You can also call the AK and under the guise of making some changes find out everything, but this method is not 100% often so that in the AK they say "contact the agent who issued the ticket" although the money was debited by the airline company !!!
[19:58:47] If you made a ticket through such a merchandise, then it is advisable to make the client fake docks for the ticket and be sure to warn about possible problems
[19:59:12] With such a drive, NEVER swear the country where you are flying !!!
[19:59:42] There have been cases when they take pictures on a transplant and start to torment them very much !!!
[20:00:02] The next way is to drive the agent into the form of payment
[20:00:17] Everything is the same as with hotels
[20:00:42] We just call the agent, come up with a story why we can't pay via the Internet, we request a form, do a drawing, call and make a ticket I will say right away, very few agents now accept payment in the form, well, making tickets for small amounts is certainly not interesting here, since the cost is high
[20:01: 53] The next topic is rewards
[20:01:53] Here is the same as for hotels, I told a lot yesterday
[20:02:23] I would like to note an important thing - most often, loyalty programs just allow you to do hotels / air / auto, that is, everything for a tourist
[20 : 02: 37] There is very little left - to find)))
[20:03:03] Miles from airline companies are also a very working topic, although large airline companies have already worked hard, and here I want to note an important nuance
[20:03: 28] When we pay for a ticket with miles - often we need an additional payment of taxes and fees in money, then we drive in the SS, but we also need to find the SS so that the charge is as long as possible
[20:03:45] The amount of taxes and surcharges is usually not large 20-100 bucks per passenger
[20:04:09] Sometimes you can pay taxes from a virtual card such as QIWI or YAD, but almost everywhere it does not work anymore
The most beaten AKs are shaving, delta, Lufthansa ... they behave very strange , they can also get off the flight on the transfer, it happens that they are registered for the flight and they are not allowed on the plane)))
[20:04:53] I am writing all this to the fact that before sending someone it is important to protest everything phone activity is very important, I talked about this at the last lecture on hotels, if yesterday someone was not there, re-read the logs
[20:05:54] Also, there are miles not of some specific AK, but of associations, such as SkyTeam, and in some it is possible to drive in by code-sharing, that is, you have miles of airline A and you use them for a flight of company B
[20: 06:18] Advice is, do not use miles of Russian airlines, and do not use miles of Western acc for flights of Russian acc
[20:06:43] Accounts can be obtained in the following ways:
[20:07:00] Brute yourself - Buy from logs - We buy in accs shops
[20:08:31] THE NEXT WAY TO USE DO NOT ADVISE
[20:08:31] Direct driving into ak, most often there are no problems to drive into acc, there is no vbv there, and the fraud is not so fierce, all this because ak can always take money from you through the court)
[20 : 08: 31] Carding directly into the matter is criminal and very dangerous, there are a lot of cases when accs sue all the money, so I do not advise doing this)))
[20:08:49] Security by air
[20:09:25] So, if you want to use this service, choose sellers with good reviews, use a guarantor for transactions
[20:09:38] ALWAYS have money to pay for the ticket in cash !!!!
[20:10:01] Never tell anyone about the origin of tickets
[20:10:22] NEVER have electronic traces with you on your laptop, phone, etc., always encrypt everything !!!
[20:10:35] No need to jump above the ass !!!
[20:10:53] That is, if you do not have a cache just in case, then you do not need to buy tickets for business class
[20:11:12] If you open the service:
[20:11:33] Make sure 100% that your scheme works
[20:11:45] Do not work without payment
[20:12:12] Do not take orders that you cannot fulfill
[20:12:35] Always be careful about orders where there are a lot of people with children
[20:13:02] Never hit directly into the acc and the merchaunts
[20:13:11] Always agree on everything on the shore
[20:13:24] and now I'm ready to answer your questions)
[20:14:59] <Best friend> 1. How safe is it to transfer your passport data when using this type of service on the board?
2. What security measures must be taken during this kind of travel, if you do not drive in yourself, of course?
3. What does the hotel / air booking meeting depend on?
4. Can you take your family and friends with you in this way?
5. The only market for selling the services of their hotel / air services is VVH and similar boards and that's it?
6. Is there any info, which bins / banks are better suited for air / hotels?
7. Does the payment process go through the payment process? if so, through what merchandise? shop or pp?
8. Is it possible to check in to a hotel with a fake passport (they don't check it), but you will have to fly by air on your own docks, right?
9.Do you drive in better from the sphere?
10. And when was the lecture on e-Gift from you? Did I miss something?
11. Regarding fullz, and if you beat another staff, not an air one, and the amount is not included in the limit, will they also change it? It's not just for air, I mean? and what is this seller? Or are such CC full info bundles applied to air?
12. is it possible for at least a couple of sellers of such a mat?
13. Do you need to test the work of different AKs on yourself?)
14. Why be careful about orders where there are children?
[20:18:14] 1. if everything is done through an agent, then it is relatively safe 2 to have money to pay in cash and not have a palette with you 3 carding cardholder or fraud 4 many people have 5 I have a lot of clients and I am looking on the IWC and the center 6 only to select myself 7 not a work 8 you can but not why 9 yes from the sphere of norms I like, it is convenient 10 is in the manual 11 everyone has different conditions, lately everything without replacing everything (12 I can not give them private 13 it is necessary to search for whom it is possible to fake data 14 when the meeting is a lot of hemorrhoids
[20:20:00] <Best friend> You mean if a seller drives in through an agent?
[20:20:27] <Best friend> I meant that when I use the strawberry service myself, let's say
[20:20:42] Yes exactly
[20:20:48] it is necessary that through the agent
[20:21:11] <Best friend> is it safe for me to litter right and left with my original passport data, or is it better for a fake ID in this case?
[20:21:17] there will be more problems with fake id, so if there are any questions: bought on the Internet and everything
[20:21:24] and fake docks
[20:21:33] <Best friend> I understood Sellers often give such information through whom do they hit?
[20:21:52] Best friend: unfortunately not
[20:21:59] <Best friend> thanks
[20:22:01] everyone says that through an agent0))
[20:22:20] <prt> 1-From the point of view of driving a hotel for yourself, which option is the least simple and trouble-free?
2 - From the buyer's point of view, what is the best way to enter the hotel?
3 - which countries or regions are bad at carding hotels?
4 - let's say check-in to the hotel was successful, but I will have to return to the same hotel.
What are the consequences?
5-optimal stay at the hotel?
[20:23:46] prt: 1 agent, 2 agent 3 tai Bali turkey Egypt VERY fucked up 4 if the agent is still 5 from fortitude) 10 days)))
[20:24:38] more questions)
[20:24:48] in general, if you can always ask something in HP
[20:27:17] <prt> why does someone take hotels from booking and someone wants to?
[20:27:33] <prt> but I didn't want my hotel
[20:28:29] prt: booking is not an agent - re-read the logs
[20:28:29] but this is an expedition !!! Ashgenet
[20:29:31] Well, if there are no questions, I will ask everyone to chirp a couple of lines here
[20:30:26] Thank you all and good luck if you can always write in HP!
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Lecturer: feyona
So, let's start
today we will talk about one of the most difficult destinations in carding
Flights.
It is also divided into 3 categories identical to hotels.
Direct carding
Revards
Agents
In general, they are very similar, but there are some differences
that we will talk about
Direct driving in airlines
In general, everything is exactly the same, we call, ask for an opportunity to pay, we receive a form, we pay
It is possible not to contact the form at all, but to dictate the card number, date, cvv code directly by phone and write off the money.
But there are important details.
If we take (solely for the sake of example) the Aeroflot company, then we will understand that after a successful flight, after some time, a court order may arrive to collect the cost of a ticket.
Somewhere on the forum there was a similar incident with one of the sellers, a couple of years ago. But the fact remains that Aeroflot still offers telephone payments. And most likely, the consequences will be exactly as I described above.
also the second distinctive feature. A lot of aircrafts do not support 3Ds technology.
Hence, the possibility of driving in directly through the website of the airlines, without requesting the VBV code. Which is also a direct drive.
And the main surprise is that some of the agents do not process payments themselves. And they process them through AK merch.
Those. you go to a site, a third-party site, with air tickets
Enter data there, enter data on the card, like everything was paid. But in fact, it turns out that you paid directly to the airline that operates the flight, which is also a direct connection
I strongly advise against flying with tickets made directly.
There were cases when people were caught right at the landing. It was such that upon arrival in another country.
If everything goes much easier with hotels, then AKs are very fond of applying sanctions to such customers. Also, not the worst, but rather unpleasant option is the blacklist. For example, in Aeroflot, in addition to a court with a refund, a black list is also waiting for you.
Otherwise, the direction of direct driving is absolutely no different from what we discussed on air. Therefore, we write down the questions for a few minutes and continue
So
Miles
These are all the same bonus programs as in hotels.
But here, by the way, there are much more
of them. Each airline has all + - the same.
Lufthansa airline was especially distinguished
In 2017, there were a number of receptions at the check-in desks of those customers who bought tickets for miles.
You can work by miles and we even need, but here only bank miles are suitable for us, with them, too, not everything is so smooth, but it is much safer than driving in directly, or flying for miles of airlines
Where can I get bank miles?
Obviously - in the banks. To be more specific, an already squeezed umb bank comes to mind in Enrolls. He had his own daughter, ikspedia, in which you could buy tickets, and make the hotel itself a year and a half ago, when everyone and everyone began to hammer this topic, there was almost no fraud. People poured into hotels, made tickets, everything went great. How now I can’t tell, but given that this topic began to circulate in thematic chats back then, I think there’s not a lot of
Enroll, you can ask the sellers, I think they will gladly sell you a video with a balance of miles
One more thing where there is a fairly large balance of points (in the video) Travel transactions go through quite easily because cardholder has already taught AF to the fact that it flies often. Accordingly, you can try to hammer in a ticket through an agent, and as practice shows, it goes quite successfully. This is also the end of the differences, we write down a couple of minutes, and move on to the final part
So, let's continue the
Agents
Here, how we have already found out that there are those who process payments directly through the airline
They certainly do not suit us
You can check them by driving a ticket from the roller. There, in the history of the transaction, it will be displayed where and how the payment was made
If we see the airline there - the agent does not suit us
if the name of the agent is what we need
Also, there are agents with vbv, there are no
Personal experience:
Always when I made tickets for Tajiks through agents without 3ds - more than half flew off
The matter of course is yours, but there is an easier alternative way to carding from the usa with the release of the vbv
With round trips, I would certainly not fly in with the USA, at least with long
A round trip is when a ticket is taken back and forth if that.
For the reason we have already analyzed (fairly fast flights)
Actually, as we have already discussed, the banks of the credit union family behave quite well and here a more reliable way is Europe autobv
How to look for them with you figured out
Europe is good for its unpretentiousness to the socks. Of course, if you drive it from dirty sox, you will be sent far and for a long time. But if the socks just says from another city, then everything is fine. Payments are in progress, there are no gatherings
And option 3, the most reliable is Europe with vbv
Here you go straight as from your card, and beat the ticket
The problem is that we cannot buy such material and the question arises, why talk about it in general. But the fact that you cannot buy it does not mean that you cannot get it yourself )
Theme fizzles out. Personally, 2 years ago I had about 10 such banks
Now there is only 1, whose cards are quite difficult to buy
Actually we are talking about the European Enroll
True, there are no Enrolls in Europe in the sense in which we know about it in USA
But there is a rather interesting form for entering an online bank in which you need to indicate the card number, date of birth
And this is all authorization
And already having got into the online bank, we can change the phone number, the static code of the vbv, mail, whatever our heart desires.
There are also cards with the function of resetting vbv in England
They give much better than USA, but also in a certain risk zone due to their charges.
And a lot of UK cards with dob are sold. There are bases on the joker.
Actually, summing up everything that I have said above, we can conclude that the topic of tickets is becoming more and more complicated from year to year. And given that our colleagues in the shop are actively providing such services to this day, we can conclude that there is always a way out, you just have to want.
At this, our lecture is over. Let me remind you that you and I had 3 lectures, Europe, Hotels, and Avia. For all three I am waiting for your temporary questions.
Miles usually pay for a large, but still part of the flight. How is the balance paid? 2. the optimal time, statistically, how long before the departure can and should you make tickets?
In case of a rally, by the way, money for the All-Union Union is also returned.
https://www.revolut.com - a better way to handle your money.
One app for all things money. From your everyday spending, to planning for your future with savings and investments, Revolut helps you get more from your money.
as with hotels, 72 hours ideally
yarah
is there such a risk of ordering these types of services from sergikko? Will the airport / hotel police catch you and put you in jail?
feyona
I do not want to discuss specific sellers. About going to jail, the main thing here is not to argue (about hotels) and give money to the cashier when asked. And tickets, in fact, are not that expensive and cost. I can only recommend Hanibal as a performer. I know how it works and from what material. Yes, it is more expensive than the others, but he does it himself, and does everything right. By the way, I can’t say anything bad about Serzhik, I just don’t communicate with him and don’t know how he is there and why.
temporary
how is the issue resolved that a Tajik is flying and will smith pays? 4. Did you fly with your own tickets?
feyona
And where did you get that Will Smith pays?) Banks check a lot of things, but not the name : D
temporary, well, card data
feyona
No, I didn't even make a hotel for myself)
So the data is the card number, date, sv
temporary
that is, the idea to fly roughly a transatlantic flight in first class - is it wiser to leave it?))
feyona
Well, I would be honest - I left
First class, by the way, I did not fly, but 50-80 thousand rubles working hard - you can afford business class even without carding services
yarah
sorry for the offtopic question, but I would like to ask you, I am a valid CC from shalom.ninja and when I buy something online like Garmin watch the card is rejected. If the socks are good, the anti-fraud practice is good, the card is valid, the price is $ 300-500, what could be the problem? "card rejected" in 2 seconds? it happens like 4/10 on fresh bases, is that ok? Is the joker better?
sorry for the off-topic question but maybe you can help as you are a professional lol
English:
sorry for offtopic question, but i wanted to ask you, i am being valid CC from shalom.ninja and when i buy something online like a Garmin watch, the card is declined. If socks is good, anti fraud practice is good, card is valid, price is 300-500 dollars, what can be the problem? "card is declined" in 2 seconds? this is happening like 4/10 on fresh bases, is this normal? is the Joker better?
sorry for off topic question but maybe you can help since you are a professional lol
6 cards work - 4 cards don't
feyona
Look, there can be a lot of reasons. For example, how you set up the sphere. Or, what bin do you use, for example, with BOA - the Americans themselves cannot really pay for anything without calling the
goldenbaum bank.
You can find out from you personally
How do you mine? Maps? Logs? Personal sniffers, stealers, KhVNTs should not be at a high level of work. Do you personally use the warrior to get it all?) Or do you have special private partners that are not in the public?
You promised a chip yesterday)
how to select a checkmate? By the way about this, in addition to yesterday's deductive methods of selecting the correct mate, do you use any preliminary assumptions about what mate can go to the Internet. Because just "tests" seem to be too expensive procedures.
If I ask sensible questions 2 weeks after the end of the course in PM, will you answer me?
feyona
Yes, like everyone else, in the same shops as you. No personal sniffers, stealers, etc. - not. The only thing is, the guys no-no give me KhVNTs, but this is so, more pampering.
Chip is the form of entering the bank that I described
Now - yes, for example, I can choose by families of banks, tk. I know similar ones (as with the credit union), but in general, the tests are just like that. Yes, expensive. Yes, for a long time. But at a distance it is very profitable.
Of course I will, but sometimes, for example, I can accidentally open a message, and at this time - the forum will fall down and I will skip it. In that case, just up if I don't answer. And don't you dare take offense at me, I do not ignore, these are evil dosers : D
We have a very difficult profession. It is very different from what most are used to. The main thing in our business is the ability to analyze and work with information. Take your time, take every step deliberately. And I will repeat to you what I say to all my disciples. What you read from each lecturer is exclusively our personal experience. Reread these lectures, make footnotes to yourself with the most important. Then, when you have your first successes, put together some financial pillow - start deviating from our experience. Start slowly testing niches, sorting through the material, think. I wish you perseverance, good luck, and a lot, a lot, a lot of money. I believe in each of you, and I will hold my fists for you!)
[19:29:15] hello everyone, let's start
[19:29:47] today we'll talk, perhaps, about one of the most profitable topics in carding - air tickets
[19:30:13] first I'll tell you about different options for obtaining tickets [19:30:38] then we will talk about the safety of this whole event
[19:30:54] and only then I will answer your questions, including on hotels and in general on yesterday's topic
[19:31:19] So , what are the options: AGENTS - FORM - REVARDS - DRIVING INTO AK
[19:31:51] agents
[19:32:11] an agent is an intermediary, for example, bravofly.com, between a huge number of airlines and a passenger, while payment goes to the agent this option is safe for the one who is flying, since when all questions to the intermediary who issued the ticket
[19:32:52] most often, agents are sites with merchandise with payment from VBV
[19:33:09] that is, we have three options here:
[19:33:38] CC + VBV = the reservation holds the best, but the checkmate is very expensive and it is very difficult to find it
[19:33:57] In euro, the merchandise of the mat usa + vbv used to climb normally - now it does not really climb either)))
[19:34:25] CC novbv bins here a rally is possible at any time, it very much depends on the SS country on the merch itself and on a lot of other things some time ago there were merchaunt that AmEx hawali, and if you carding Australia or New Zealand with AmEx, then they gave now this method is less effective, since everyone was reading and delaying fraud there are still merch without vbv, but there are very few of them and they are very tough)))
[19:36:12] I have been dealing with tickets for quite a long time, and I will give some advice:
[19:37:08] if you decide to try yourself in this field - make sure that you know how to drive at all, without experience with staff, gift, etc., you do not need to start at all, since here you need experience in understanding how antifraud works , and in setting up the machine for driving both in the drawings and in the calls do not start the search for air merchandise without good capital - which you can safely drain learn to work systemically that is, when you find a certain merch that you think should give, you should develop a system for testing it you should try different mate
[19:38:34] You need to test different destinations
[19:38:49] Different booking times, etc.
[19:39:11] Different amounts of purchased tickets
[19:39:41] Before you fly yourself or send customers, you must be 100% convinced that your method is reliable !!!
[19:40:09] today Topic air strongly beaten, and even mat with vbv makes no guarantees of success depending on the airline and the destinations of the passengers at the front can request rendering CC, for example, all nuances you should know in advance
[19:41:04] Very often the payment goes well, tickets are given but a meeting occurs, most often it is an additional payment check or something else
[19:41:18] Here you need to ring up and understand the reasons for the meeting, so that you can work more productively
[19:41:38] When working with the VBV mat, it is worth considering driving in more detail:
[19:42:07] We set up the virtual machine, everything should be perfect, after driving in, we clean it, if we use Antic, then we clean it
[19:42: 35] We buy a sock or a tunnel, it is important that it is fast and clean, we select as close as possible to the IP cardholder data on IP cardholder and user agent cardholder we get from the CC + VBV seller
[19:43:05] We go to the agent's website, if we hit VBV, then we need to know 100% that he is there), choose a ticket, pay for
[19:43:22] Using the example of CC + VBV DE, I will describe what is there
[19 : 43: 56] CC DE FULL INFO CLASSIC (these are classic bins), the price for such ss is from 25 to 50 euros (limit-guarantee on average 500 euros), material sellers usually say that it beats an average of 1500 euros
[19:44:31 ] CC DE FULL INFO HIGH (these are bins from premium to corporate), the price of such CC is up to 75 euros. CC HIGHs come with a limit guarantee of up to 750 euros
[19:44:56] CC DE FULL INFO BUISNESS (bins of business and corporate cards and etc.), the price of such CC is up to 90 euros, the limit-guarantee is up to 1300-1500 euros
[19:45:11] it is clear that the numbers are average, and the guarantee limit and the price can differ significantly also at the moment there are sellers who do not give a guarantee limit at all they take advantage of the fact that such a mat is rare and is in great demand we never buy full cards - SPARKASSEN (bank name), firstly petty, secondly a powerful anti-fraud system, thirdly, there are no replacements for them
[19:46 : 40] Limit guarantee - this, for example, we bought CC DE FULL INFO HIGH and it says LimitGarantee - 750 EURO, we do it by driving in 600-700 euros and ss does not work, then they change it, even if it is valid
[19:46:57] Naturally, if the card is not valid, a replacement is also made all the sellers do the replacement of CC strictly when providing video input
[19:47:30] Therefore it is worth downloading and installing the Bandicam program
[19 : 47: 59] The video should start from the moment the CC was opened from the seller in a note, then show that you have a clean sock / tunnel (check2ip.com) and end either with a successful drive or with problems resetting the vbv, etc.)
[19:49: 22] You can download it here: http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5022971
[19:49:22] The format of the issued ss is usual, but plus to this in the DE fullck goes:
[19:49:22] Gaberstatum (shortly speaking DOB)
[19:49:22] Kontonummer (account number from 7-10 digits)
[19:49:22] Servicenummer (not all tsts)
[19:49:36 ] Bankleitzahl (bank number for other banks, usually does not ask for it, since it is the same in the bank)
[19:50:11] SC is the corresponding Security code, for us it is known as EBV, but a very big BUT, in 70% of cases not needed, since in German banks the SK is automatically reset every 30 days it turns out that we activate the SK every time using the Kontonummer (account number), Gaberstatum (ext), Gultigkeit (expiration date) and Profziffer (sv2 code - three-digit code)
[19:50:53] We memorize the basic mailers needed to work with DE: web.de, gmx.net, t-online.de these are free, or you can use Gmail or corpses
[19:51 : 39] We make mail on them under the holder
[19:52:22] We drive in the passenger's data, drive in the card data, change the VBV and if everything works out, then we rejoice. If the card is invalid, does not have enough funds to the agreed-upon limit, does not change the VBV, put Bandikam to stop, fill in the sendspace, send and forward replacement from seller.
[19:52:45] At seller VBV say at once - this info private, and with experience you and you will find it
[19:53:02] An important nuance
[19:53:29] Yesterday, in my lecture on hotels, I spoke in detail about services such as booking.com
[19:54:06] Let me remind you that these services do not have their own merchandise and simply transmit your data to the AC and the airline is already processing them
[19:55:35] At the same time, you may not see it yourself
That is, when you make a reservation through an aggregator like skyscanner, you see that you went to another site when paying
[19:56:50] And when booking on vayama you do not go anywhere, but the airline whose flight you make takes the money !!!
[19:57:04] In fact, this is a direct drive with all the ensuing consequences
[19:57:25] How to figure it out:
[19:57:57] there are two methods - to drive tests from the video and see who wrote off the money
[19:58:30] You can also call the AK and under the guise of making some changes find out everything, but this method is not 100% often so that in the AK they say "contact the agent who issued the ticket" although the money was debited by the airline company !!!
[19:58:47] If you made a ticket through such a merchandise, then it is advisable to make the client fake docks for the ticket and be sure to warn about possible problems
[19:59:12] With such a drive, NEVER swear the country where you are flying !!!
[19:59:42] There have been cases when they take pictures on a transplant and start to torment them very much !!!
[20:00:02] The next way is to drive the agent into the form of payment
[20:00:17] Everything is the same as with hotels
[20:00:42] We just call the agent, come up with a story why we can't pay via the Internet, we request a form, do a drawing, call and make a ticket I will say right away, very few agents now accept payment in the form, well, making tickets for small amounts is certainly not interesting here, since the cost is high
[20:01: 53] The next topic is rewards
[20:01:53] Here is the same as for hotels, I told a lot yesterday
[20:02:23] I would like to note an important thing - most often, loyalty programs just allow you to do hotels / air / auto, that is, everything for a tourist
[20 : 02: 37] There is very little left - to find)))
[20:03:03] Miles from airline companies are also a very working topic, although large airline companies have already worked hard, and here I want to note an important nuance
[20:03: 28] When we pay for a ticket with miles - often we need an additional payment of taxes and fees in money, then we drive in the SS, but we also need to find the SS so that the charge is as long as possible
[20:03:45] The amount of taxes and surcharges is usually not large 20-100 bucks per passenger
[20:04:09] Sometimes you can pay taxes from a virtual card such as QIWI or YAD, but almost everywhere it does not work anymore
The most beaten AKs are shaving, delta, Lufthansa ... they behave very strange , they can also get off the flight on the transfer, it happens that they are registered for the flight and they are not allowed on the plane)))
[20:04:53] I am writing all this to the fact that before sending someone it is important to protest everything phone activity is very important, I talked about this at the last lecture on hotels, if yesterday someone was not there, re-read the logs
[20:05:54] Also, there are miles not of some specific AK, but of associations, such as SkyTeam, and in some it is possible to drive in by code-sharing, that is, you have miles of airline A and you use them for a flight of company B
[20: 06:18] Advice is, do not use miles of Russian airlines, and do not use miles of Western acc for flights of Russian acc
[20:06:43] Accounts can be obtained in the following ways:
[20:07:00] Brute yourself - Buy from logs - We buy in accs shops
[20:08:31] THE NEXT WAY TO USE DO NOT ADVISE
[20:08:31] Direct driving into ak, most often there are no problems to drive into acc, there is no vbv there, and the fraud is not so fierce, all this because ak can always take money from you through the court)
[20 : 08: 31] Carding directly into the matter is criminal and very dangerous, there are a lot of cases when accs sue all the money, so I do not advise doing this)))
[20:08:49] Security by air
[20:09:25] So, if you want to use this service, choose sellers with good reviews, use a guarantor for transactions
[20:09:38] ALWAYS have money to pay for the ticket in cash !!!!
[20:10:01] Never tell anyone about the origin of tickets
[20:10:22] NEVER have electronic traces with you on your laptop, phone, etc., always encrypt everything !!!
[20:10:35] No need to jump above the ass !!!
[20:10:53] That is, if you do not have a cache just in case, then you do not need to buy tickets for business class
[20:11:12] If you open the service:
[20:11:33] Make sure 100% that your scheme works
[20:11:45] Do not work without payment
[20:12:12] Do not take orders that you cannot fulfill
[20:12:35] Always be careful about orders where there are a lot of people with children
[20:13:02] Never hit directly into the acc and the merchaunts
[20:13:11] Always agree on everything on the shore
[20:13:24] and now I'm ready to answer your questions)
[20:14:59] <Best friend> 1. How safe is it to transfer your passport data when using this type of service on the board?
2. What security measures must be taken during this kind of travel, if you do not drive in yourself, of course?
3. What does the hotel / air booking meeting depend on?
4. Can you take your family and friends with you in this way?
5. The only market for selling the services of their hotel / air services is VVH and similar boards and that's it?
6. Is there any info, which bins / banks are better suited for air / hotels?
7. Does the payment process go through the payment process? if so, through what merchandise? shop or pp?
8. Is it possible to check in to a hotel with a fake passport (they don't check it), but you will have to fly by air on your own docks, right?
9.Do you drive in better from the sphere?
10. And when was the lecture on e-Gift from you? Did I miss something?
11. Regarding fullz, and if you beat another staff, not an air one, and the amount is not included in the limit, will they also change it? It's not just for air, I mean? and what is this seller? Or are such CC full info bundles applied to air?
12. is it possible for at least a couple of sellers of such a mat?
13. Do you need to test the work of different AKs on yourself?)
14. Why be careful about orders where there are children?
[20:18:14] 1. if everything is done through an agent, then it is relatively safe 2 to have money to pay in cash and not have a palette with you 3 carding cardholder or fraud 4 many people have 5 I have a lot of clients and I am looking on the IWC and the center 6 only to select myself 7 not a work 8 you can but not why 9 yes from the sphere of norms I like, it is convenient 10 is in the manual 11 everyone has different conditions, lately everything without replacing everything (12 I can not give them private 13 it is necessary to search for whom it is possible to fake data 14 when the meeting is a lot of hemorrhoids
[20:20:00] <Best friend> You mean if a seller drives in through an agent?
[20:20:27] <Best friend> I meant that when I use the strawberry service myself, let's say
[20:20:42] Yes exactly
[20:20:48] it is necessary that through the agent
[20:21:11] <Best friend> is it safe for me to litter right and left with my original passport data, or is it better for a fake ID in this case?
[20:21:17] there will be more problems with fake id, so if there are any questions: bought on the Internet and everything
[20:21:24] and fake docks
[20:21:33] <Best friend> I understood Sellers often give such information through whom do they hit?
[20:21:52] Best friend: unfortunately not
[20:21:59] <Best friend> thanks
[20:22:01] everyone says that through an agent0))
[20:22:20] <prt> 1-From the point of view of driving a hotel for yourself, which option is the least simple and trouble-free?
2 - From the buyer's point of view, what is the best way to enter the hotel?
3 - which countries or regions are bad at carding hotels?
4 - let's say check-in to the hotel was successful, but I will have to return to the same hotel.
What are the consequences?
5-optimal stay at the hotel?
[20:23:46] prt: 1 agent, 2 agent 3 tai Bali turkey Egypt VERY fucked up 4 if the agent is still 5 from fortitude) 10 days)))
[20:24:38] more questions)
[20:24:48] in general, if you can always ask something in HP
[20:27:17] <prt> why does someone take hotels from booking and someone wants to?
[20:27:33] <prt> but I didn't want my hotel
[20:28:29] prt: booking is not an agent - re-read the logs
[20:28:29] but this is an expedition !!! Ashgenet
[20:29:31] Well, if there are no questions, I will ask everyone to chirp a couple of lines here
[20:30:26] Thank you all and good luck if you can always write in HP!
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Lecturer: feyona
So, let's start
today we will talk about one of the most difficult destinations in carding
Flights.
It is also divided into 3 categories identical to hotels.
Direct carding
Revards
Agents
In general, they are very similar, but there are some differences
that we will talk about
Direct driving in airlines
In general, everything is exactly the same, we call, ask for an opportunity to pay, we receive a form, we pay
It is possible not to contact the form at all, but to dictate the card number, date, cvv code directly by phone and write off the money.
But there are important details.
If we take (solely for the sake of example) the Aeroflot company, then we will understand that after a successful flight, after some time, a court order may arrive to collect the cost of a ticket.
Somewhere on the forum there was a similar incident with one of the sellers, a couple of years ago. But the fact remains that Aeroflot still offers telephone payments. And most likely, the consequences will be exactly as I described above.
also the second distinctive feature. A lot of aircrafts do not support 3Ds technology.
Hence, the possibility of driving in directly through the website of the airlines, without requesting the VBV code. Which is also a direct drive.
And the main surprise is that some of the agents do not process payments themselves. And they process them through AK merch.
Those. you go to a site, a third-party site, with air tickets
Enter data there, enter data on the card, like everything was paid. But in fact, it turns out that you paid directly to the airline that operates the flight, which is also a direct connection
I strongly advise against flying with tickets made directly.
There were cases when people were caught right at the landing. It was such that upon arrival in another country.
If everything goes much easier with hotels, then AKs are very fond of applying sanctions to such customers. Also, not the worst, but rather unpleasant option is the blacklist. For example, in Aeroflot, in addition to a court with a refund, a black list is also waiting for you.
Otherwise, the direction of direct driving is absolutely no different from what we discussed on air. Therefore, we write down the questions for a few minutes and continue
So
Miles
These are all the same bonus programs as in hotels.
But here, by the way, there are much more
of them. Each airline has all + - the same.
Lufthansa airline was especially distinguished
In 2017, there were a number of receptions at the check-in desks of those customers who bought tickets for miles.
You can work by miles and we even need, but here only bank miles are suitable for us, with them, too, not everything is so smooth, but it is much safer than driving in directly, or flying for miles of airlines
Where can I get bank miles?
Obviously - in the banks. To be more specific, an already squeezed umb bank comes to mind in Enrolls. He had his own daughter, ikspedia, in which you could buy tickets, and make the hotel itself a year and a half ago, when everyone and everyone began to hammer this topic, there was almost no fraud. People poured into hotels, made tickets, everything went great. How now I can’t tell, but given that this topic began to circulate in thematic chats back then, I think there’s not a lot of
Enroll, you can ask the sellers, I think they will gladly sell you a video with a balance of miles
One more thing where there is a fairly large balance of points (in the video) Travel transactions go through quite easily because cardholder has already taught AF to the fact that it flies often. Accordingly, you can try to hammer in a ticket through an agent, and as practice shows, it goes quite successfully. This is also the end of the differences, we write down a couple of minutes, and move on to the final part
So, let's continue the
Agents
Here, how we have already found out that there are those who process payments directly through the airline
They certainly do not suit us
You can check them by driving a ticket from the roller. There, in the history of the transaction, it will be displayed where and how the payment was made
If we see the airline there - the agent does not suit us
if the name of the agent is what we need
Also, there are agents with vbv, there are no
Personal experience:
Always when I made tickets for Tajiks through agents without 3ds - more than half flew off
The matter of course is yours, but there is an easier alternative way to carding from the usa with the release of the vbv
With round trips, I would certainly not fly in with the USA, at least with long
A round trip is when a ticket is taken back and forth if that.
For the reason we have already analyzed (fairly fast flights)
Actually, as we have already discussed, the banks of the credit union family behave quite well and here a more reliable way is Europe autobv
How to look for them with you figured out
Europe is good for its unpretentiousness to the socks. Of course, if you drive it from dirty sox, you will be sent far and for a long time. But if the socks just says from another city, then everything is fine. Payments are in progress, there are no gatherings
And option 3, the most reliable is Europe with vbv
Here you go straight as from your card, and beat the ticket
The problem is that we cannot buy such material and the question arises, why talk about it in general. But the fact that you cannot buy it does not mean that you cannot get it yourself )
Theme fizzles out. Personally, 2 years ago I had about 10 such banks
Now there is only 1, whose cards are quite difficult to buy
Actually we are talking about the European Enroll
True, there are no Enrolls in Europe in the sense in which we know about it in USA
But there is a rather interesting form for entering an online bank in which you need to indicate the card number, date of birth
And this is all authorization
And already having got into the online bank, we can change the phone number, the static code of the vbv, mail, whatever our heart desires.
There are also cards with the function of resetting vbv in England
They give much better than USA, but also in a certain risk zone due to their charges.
And a lot of UK cards with dob are sold. There are bases on the joker.
Actually, summing up everything that I have said above, we can conclude that the topic of tickets is becoming more and more complicated from year to year. And given that our colleagues in the shop are actively providing such services to this day, we can conclude that there is always a way out, you just have to want.
At this, our lecture is over. Let me remind you that you and I had 3 lectures, Europe, Hotels, and Avia. For all three I am waiting for your temporary questions.
Miles usually pay for a large, but still part of the flight. How is the balance paid? 2. the optimal time, statistically, how long before the departure can and should you make tickets?
In case of a rally, by the way, money for the All-Union Union is also returned.
https://www.revolut.com - a better way to handle your money.
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as with hotels, 72 hours ideally
yarah
is there such a risk of ordering these types of services from sergikko? Will the airport / hotel police catch you and put you in jail?
feyona
I do not want to discuss specific sellers. About going to jail, the main thing here is not to argue (about hotels) and give money to the cashier when asked. And tickets, in fact, are not that expensive and cost. I can only recommend Hanibal as a performer. I know how it works and from what material. Yes, it is more expensive than the others, but he does it himself, and does everything right. By the way, I can’t say anything bad about Serzhik, I just don’t communicate with him and don’t know how he is there and why.
temporary
how is the issue resolved that a Tajik is flying and will smith pays? 4. Did you fly with your own tickets?
feyona
And where did you get that Will Smith pays?) Banks check a lot of things, but not the name : D
temporary, well, card data
feyona
No, I didn't even make a hotel for myself)
So the data is the card number, date, sv
temporary
that is, the idea to fly roughly a transatlantic flight in first class - is it wiser to leave it?))
feyona
Well, I would be honest - I left
First class, by the way, I did not fly, but 50-80 thousand rubles working hard - you can afford business class even without carding services
yarah
sorry for the offtopic question, but I would like to ask you, I am a valid CC from shalom.ninja and when I buy something online like Garmin watch the card is rejected. If the socks are good, the anti-fraud practice is good, the card is valid, the price is $ 300-500, what could be the problem? "card rejected" in 2 seconds? it happens like 4/10 on fresh bases, is that ok? Is the joker better?
sorry for the off-topic question but maybe you can help as you are a professional lol
English:
sorry for offtopic question, but i wanted to ask you, i am being valid CC from shalom.ninja and when i buy something online like a Garmin watch, the card is declined. If socks is good, anti fraud practice is good, card is valid, price is 300-500 dollars, what can be the problem? "card is declined" in 2 seconds? this is happening like 4/10 on fresh bases, is this normal? is the Joker better?
sorry for off topic question but maybe you can help since you are a professional lol
6 cards work - 4 cards don't
feyona
Look, there can be a lot of reasons. For example, how you set up the sphere. Or, what bin do you use, for example, with BOA - the Americans themselves cannot really pay for anything without calling the
goldenbaum bank.
You can find out from you personally
How do you mine? Maps? Logs? Personal sniffers, stealers, KhVNTs should not be at a high level of work. Do you personally use the warrior to get it all?) Or do you have special private partners that are not in the public?
You promised a chip yesterday)
how to select a checkmate? By the way about this, in addition to yesterday's deductive methods of selecting the correct mate, do you use any preliminary assumptions about what mate can go to the Internet. Because just "tests" seem to be too expensive procedures.
If I ask sensible questions 2 weeks after the end of the course in PM, will you answer me?
feyona
Yes, like everyone else, in the same shops as you. No personal sniffers, stealers, etc. - not. The only thing is, the guys no-no give me KhVNTs, but this is so, more pampering.
Chip is the form of entering the bank that I described
Now - yes, for example, I can choose by families of banks, tk. I know similar ones (as with the credit union), but in general, the tests are just like that. Yes, expensive. Yes, for a long time. But at a distance it is very profitable.
Of course I will, but sometimes, for example, I can accidentally open a message, and at this time - the forum will fall down and I will skip it. In that case, just up if I don't answer. And don't you dare take offense at me, I do not ignore, these are evil dosers : D
We have a very difficult profession. It is very different from what most are used to. The main thing in our business is the ability to analyze and work with information. Take your time, take every step deliberately. And I will repeat to you what I say to all my disciples. What you read from each lecturer is exclusively our personal experience. Reread these lectures, make footnotes to yourself with the most important. Then, when you have your first successes, put together some financial pillow - start deviating from our experience. Start slowly testing niches, sorting through the material, think. I wish you perseverance, good luck, and a lot, a lot, a lot of money. I believe in each of you, and I will hold my fists for you!)
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