Mutt
Professional
- Messages
- 1,458
- Reaction score
- 1,070
- Points
- 113
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Interview
- What do you do?
- Now I already have an official job - office, paper. Previously, he was involved in the so-called social engineering. This is a very literary word, in fact, this is an ordinary scam, f * ck and the like.
- What is a scam?
- Scam is when you persuade a person to buy some kind of service or product that does not exist, or it is knowingly false.
For example, you put up a product for sale and write a price about 20% lower than it costs on Avito itself. This is the most important thing, because if it costs exactly the same as everyone else's, it will not be relevant for such a buyer, that is, a mammoth.
Now for payment. Previously, the buyer had to pay for the delivery, and money immediately flew in to you - usually $ 10-30. eBay's system was flawed, and the money came to you immediately.
Schoolchildren and misbehaving engineers screwed up the circuit. They immediately threw a person into a scam, that is, in an emergency, and the person immediately understood that he was being f * cked. In a fit of his anger, he could start a search in hot pursuit, according to your information and the like, he could immediately go to write a statement, and in order to avoid this, you had to maintain contact with him. Let's say delivery from your address to him takes 5 days, then you just graze him for 4 days, start talking to him. Each approach is, in principle, individual, but there are always templates.
- And which scheme can be called the most running now?
- There are, in fact, a lot of these schemes, but the most popular one that still works to this day is when you create a page for the left girl through a FB group, such as girls party, the Corporation of Evil, which has its own communication bot. To do this, you need to get a package of photographs where the girl is in very intimate positions, and voice messages, because now there are many such mammoths that are already scanned, and they especially do not believe that the girl is real. All this is sold on special forums, usually the price varies from $ 350-500, depending on the amount of data that is available there.
Next, you need to fill the page beautifully. You need to do it right - it's not like ephemeral pages where future drug couriers are recruited. You need to make a live page, or buy it, they are sometimes very expensive, from 1t to 15t. Then you correspond, you can throw off the script in a formulaic way, they say, I'm a student, now I have problems with money, I'm ready to sell my photos. If the mammoth has doubts, then voice messages come into play. They are bought in the archives, where they are numbered, they have names, what is said and with what intonation. There is a special script for FB, where you just drop this message, and it is filled not with an audio file, but with a voice message. Then you set the price tag. Again, the price tag there is quite simple: 15-20 intimate photos of $ 250, 50+ is already $ 400-500. There is also a video,
Let's move on to the moment of transferring manes. Here is a person who sends you money - you don't need to throw it into a scam right away. You actually send these photos, for which he paid, and everyone is happy, because if you throw him in an emergency, you will lose him, and so there is a probability of about 20-25% that he will return. You give him the same price list, either more expensive or cheaper, depending on what you need. If he asks for a discount, then send fuck * d, such people are immediately cut off. It keeps you, as it were, on such monitoring, if a person writes to you, asks for photographs, you send him, there is nothing else to take in this topic.
- And how much can you raise on average per month with this approach?
- On average, with a skillful language and with a well-formed conversation template, 25-30k per month, and sometimes up to 40k can even reach, well, if you do everything according to the standard.
- Do the breeders have any communities where they exchange experiences?
- In fact, there are a lot of sites and forums on the Internet. In an open search, you can go to a specialized forum and read all this information there, but 80% of all these sites are either water, or very ancient schemes, or they are simply not working. Most of these forums are on the darknet and some telegram channels. You need to look for and watch all this, now there are a lot of them and it is very difficult to filter out what you need.
- How did you learn this, did you have a mentor?
- There was no mentor, I did everything according to logic, researched, if I saw something useful on the forum, I studied this topic, read articles about security, how everything works, and acted on my own. There was a partner, but this is to share the work.
- How many mammoths on average can you lead at a time?
- It all depends on your multitasking skills, in my case I can only lead 5-6 people in different directions. There are people who can do more, eat less, it all depends on the person.
- Is blackmail considered a decent divorce? Or is this not welcome in your circles?
- It's a dirty move, but they will go to the "puss" (the one who is afraid of exposure). It is a matter of taste, whether a person wants to engage in "pure" blackmail when he is trying to bring a pedophile to the surface, then yes, here the whole community welcomes to fight with full of data freaks. The rest, as a rule, do not touch.
- Is there an unspoken taboo on divorce of any categories of people?
- Yes, there is an unspoken taboo. It is impossible to drag in pensioners, disabled people and the weak-minded in schemes, because these are people who are very naive, and they may simply sometimes not understand. This is a very dirty deed, which only people without conscience resort to, because if a person is engaged in such a thing, deceives all kinds of grandmothers, grandfathers, disabled people who cannot even work, that is, they really cannot even provide a good life for themselves, ordinary hard workers with disabilities , if people do this, then they are not accepted into our society. If we find out about this on a forum or in a chat somewhere, then the person is immediately kicked out.
- About a standard situation when a FB page is hacked, what is the mechanism?
- How it worked before: you needed to find out the person's number and his passport data. Passport data, in fact, is very easy to find out when you have acquaintances in certain structures, or you learn the data through thorny paths.
For example, you introduce yourself as an agent of a modeling agency, post an ad with a competition in some public. In this scheme, you lead a person to the fact that you choose him, you say that you fit the data for us, you chatter, you say that she is such a supermodel that you just dump your head off. And so, they say, there is only a small convention, you need to come to a test photo session, you do not need to pay anything, you just need your passport data so that we can add you to the database. You also recognize a mobile phone. You make a request to the operator through the left FB page in their Facebook group, you write, they say, I want to forward calls to another number. He asks for passport details and number, you give him all this. I repeat, now via social media. network forwarding will no longer work.
When the victim is asleep, we take the page away - we do a password recovery, an SMS comes to his phone, after the second SMS request, the bot calls you to the forwarded number, which says the recovery code, you change the password. Then you just change the phone number, and 80% that the victim will simply score, since nothing can be restored anyway. In our experience, those. FB support responds for about 3-4 days, during this time you will already have time to do anything with the page.
Even the most commonplace, how to protect yourself from the fact that your page is not taken away - is not to go to unverified third-party resources on which you need to log in. If you log in to such a resource, the so-called phishing site, where a person enters data, this data will fall into third hands. Hackers simply make a hand-on-middle function, that is, a hand in the middle, a hand that intercepts data.
On such phishing sites, you, people, enter your data, and the machine receives them, that is, the most important thing here is to be vigilant, to understand what, where and how.
If you enter your data left and right, then you will simply remain barefoot and without everything.
And the excuse can be anything from free stickers to discounts at dodo pizza.
- Are password guessing aggregators a myth?
- Not a myth, no, of course. It just worked before, in the bearded 2010, when the passwords were very simple. Now, to get rid of - this is just the name of how passwords are selected through the library (this library contains the most common passwords that, through certain programs, select the same cherished password), standard libraries are not enough.
- Why do they most often ask to transfer money to an bank card? I was most often asked to do this when friends were hacked.
- Why to Bank, I don't know. This is the addiction of new guys, I don't know why they do this, what are the privileges, but most desirable are Webmoney, PayPal and QIWI. The rest is just an unnecessary topic.
- If you take social networks, where are you most likely to run into a divorce? And where is the audience still more vigilant?
- Classmates are fierce mammoths, FB is an average level of difficulty, here you must at least know the basics. Telegram - so far unknown to me, but it is a little more complicated there than in FB.
The audience is almost all of fools and suckers. With no exceptions.
Even I got divorced very spontaneously - $ 3k were taken away from me. So no one is immune to being protected at all times.
- What scheme did you fall for yourself? Was that before you started doing it yourself?
- It happened just a week ago, when I wanted to buy a private cheat (God, just don't laugh) for one game, it costs about $ 4-5k per month of subscription. Well, I, like the last sucker, fell for the low price of $ 3k, and they dumped me.
- Was it offensive or would you shake hands with a colleague who outwitted you?
- First I would give it with a star, and then I would shake hands.
- How did you come to this sphere yourself? What was your first divorce?
- Apparently, inherent in the genotype, to be like that. In the 6th grade, I rented a bike from a friend and did not return it. I liked this idea, but then I didn’t trade like that, I liked to cheat people on the net more, there is less chance that they will be given a star. And I returned the great.
- And the first time on the network?
- Skins from the counter strike. It was an ordinary business, then it was not yet so popular. The knife stole for $ 2k. The bottom line is that through the exchange of one type of chat, I persuaded to make a transfer, they say, I had already sent the money, they don’t come, I pressed on pity, etc., I persuaded as best I could. In the end, he sent me the item, and I went offline for him forever. At first he ran in the game with him, then he sold it to a friend for $ 1k wooden ones, so everyone was in the black, except for the mammoth.
- What is the largest amount you raised at a time?
- Freelance. Pretended to be a layout designer, one individual entrepreneur had to make a website, and he gave me 12k rubles on prepayment. I quickly went to the scam and started the procedure of cleaning the money, because the amount is relatively large, it would be necessary to "clean it".
- Why is money laundered, what will happen if this is not done?
- Money is laundered only for one thing - in all these areas of Internet fraud, money is obtained electronically, and, as we know, the tax service works very closely with banks, which provide it with data on all users and on all transfers. If it is one-time and the amounts are small, well, there will be $ 5-10000 fires every six months, and okay, then you don't have to launder in principle, this will not greatly affect karma. The criminal, so to speak, will not sharpen a grudge against you, but when a monthly calculation of $ 1 or more goes to you from somewhere on your card, from one resource, the tax authorities will come and there will be questions about where the additional income comes from. In short, so that all this tinsel is not there, the whole thing must be laundered, because the money was obtained in a dirty way.
- How did the cleaning take place?
- The so-called money laundering. The procedure is simple, but hemorrhoid in time. It all depends on the amount that you want to drive away, if it is small, $ 3-4-5000, then you don't need to drive it out, from $ 10k you already need to clean them. Through currency exchangers, the scheme is as simple as two fingers on the asphalt - from a wallet to bitcoin, from a cue ball to another wallet, from a wallet to a cue ball and then to a bank card. If the amount is decent, from 20 or more, you need to constantly maintain the interval of transferring money to other wallets and also a different amount, i.e. break it down into its components. Let's say $ 20k. You break them into 4359 wooden ones and then translate them, make an interval a day and do the same, only in a different amount, until you get everything out.
- Was it such that, after all, anonymity was disclosed and there was a real risk to freedom or health?
- Nope. When you do everything competently and do not touch upon the topic of the Chekists, then you will never be caught. The Chekists, they are the FSB, are always interested in the following shots - pedophiles, card fraudsters (there are especially large sums of money flying, from hundreds of thousands to many millions), arms dealers, child pornography, prohibited literature (extremism), drugs in especially large ones.
- So there is no point in contacting the police? They won't do it?
- In the police will be interested if there is a mass theft, when money will be written off from many patients. So no, it's easier to score, the police don't need an extra hanger, and we use it.
- Why did you do this? Sports passion or money? The amounts, as I understand it, are not exorbitant.
- Sports interest. In fact, it is very useful to know how all this works, because we have a lot of scammers, very ... The amounts are small simply because I was doing this in my free time and did not raise more than $ 20k a month, there was no point ...
- Sometimes you feel sorry for mammoths or a sucker should pay, and this is the norm? Does your conscience bother you?
- Conscience ... Not in this area, buddy. Here is a conscience, if you have, you cannot force a person to do what you need. So, in short, if, no, wild shameless people live here.
- Does anyone you know know what you did?
- The fewer people know, the better. Only one friend knows, and then he somehow does not care. In this case, anonymity is needed, so that none of the relatives knows.
- What is the most interesting incident in your career?
- I wanted to get the bank's database for free, and he wanted to give me a dummy.
For a very long time I tried to understand whether he really cares for me or not. As it turned out, he has no idea how it is even mined, this base. In the end, I just played along - we even both laughed and parted, but it was the best experience.
And from the schemes, but not really. Sometimes there were vigilant citizens with whom the conversation did not get involved, but no, there was nothing interesting among the mammoths.
- How can you immediately recognize a fraudster?
- It's all very relative. You cannot immediately name all the signs by which you can determine it. The most important thing is that he wants something from you, a service / money, nothing else is given. It is necessary to calculate, understand how communication is built, against the background of which, how a person communicates, how long have they known each other. This is pure psychology, so there really is no right way. How to determine - this must be through trial and error and knowledge of the schemes and what is now popular, what is in use. As from time immemorial it was and will be, on hype topics to trade non-existent garbage, such as "plants from the coronavirus." After all, in reality, they sell this, and it is on the Internet, and people are being led. That is, such a seasonal exacerbation can be recognized as a fraud.
- What does the victim need to do in order to have at least some chance of returning at least part of the money, if she is nevertheless divorced?
- Here a lot of factors depend on what the money was transferred through, how the deception took place, where, and so on. If everything was done correctly, I say, nothing will help to return them, well, of course, to ordinary citizens without connections.
- Why did you decide to quit and is it for good? If you are in the mood, are you ready to return?
- There will be a need for money and freedom of action, then yes, I will definitely come back. I decided to quit only because the white salary is more than my adventures. There, of course, there is a lot that can be done, but why, if there are work norms?
Interview
- What do you do?
- Now I already have an official job - office, paper. Previously, he was involved in the so-called social engineering. This is a very literary word, in fact, this is an ordinary scam, f * ck and the like.
- What is a scam?
- Scam is when you persuade a person to buy some kind of service or product that does not exist, or it is knowingly false.
For example, you put up a product for sale and write a price about 20% lower than it costs on Avito itself. This is the most important thing, because if it costs exactly the same as everyone else's, it will not be relevant for such a buyer, that is, a mammoth.
A person writes to you, asks for characteristics, and you answer him as if you have the product.A mammoth, a beaver, a hamster - this is a person who is being led to these shenanigans.
Now for payment. Previously, the buyer had to pay for the delivery, and money immediately flew in to you - usually $ 10-30. eBay's system was flawed, and the money came to you immediately.
Schoolchildren and misbehaving engineers screwed up the circuit. They immediately threw a person into a scam, that is, in an emergency, and the person immediately understood that he was being f * cked. In a fit of his anger, he could start a search in hot pursuit, according to your information and the like, he could immediately go to write a statement, and in order to avoid this, you had to maintain contact with him. Let's say delivery from your address to him takes 5 days, then you just graze him for 4 days, start talking to him. Each approach is, in principle, individual, but there are always templates.
- And which scheme can be called the most running now?
- There are, in fact, a lot of these schemes, but the most popular one that still works to this day is when you create a page for the left girl through a FB group, such as girls party, the Corporation of Evil, which has its own communication bot. To do this, you need to get a package of photographs where the girl is in very intimate positions, and voice messages, because now there are many such mammoths that are already scanned, and they especially do not believe that the girl is real. All this is sold on special forums, usually the price varies from $ 350-500, depending on the amount of data that is available there.
Next, you need to fill the page beautifully. You need to do it right - it's not like ephemeral pages where future drug couriers are recruited. You need to make a live page, or buy it, they are sometimes very expensive, from 1t to 15t. Then you correspond, you can throw off the script in a formulaic way, they say, I'm a student, now I have problems with money, I'm ready to sell my photos. If the mammoth has doubts, then voice messages come into play. They are bought in the archives, where they are numbered, they have names, what is said and with what intonation. There is a special script for FB, where you just drop this message, and it is filled not with an audio file, but with a voice message. Then you set the price tag. Again, the price tag there is quite simple: 15-20 intimate photos of $ 250, 50+ is already $ 400-500. There is also a video,
Let's move on to the moment of transferring manes. Here is a person who sends you money - you don't need to throw it into a scam right away. You actually send these photos, for which he paid, and everyone is happy, because if you throw him in an emergency, you will lose him, and so there is a probability of about 20-25% that he will return. You give him the same price list, either more expensive or cheaper, depending on what you need. If he asks for a discount, then send fuck * d, such people are immediately cut off. It keeps you, as it were, on such monitoring, if a person writes to you, asks for photographs, you send him, there is nothing else to take in this topic.
- And how much can you raise on average per month with this approach?
- On average, with a skillful language and with a well-formed conversation template, 25-30k per month, and sometimes up to 40k can even reach, well, if you do everything according to the standard.
- Do the breeders have any communities where they exchange experiences?
- In fact, there are a lot of sites and forums on the Internet. In an open search, you can go to a specialized forum and read all this information there, but 80% of all these sites are either water, or very ancient schemes, or they are simply not working. Most of these forums are on the darknet and some telegram channels. You need to look for and watch all this, now there are a lot of them and it is very difficult to filter out what you need.
- How did you learn this, did you have a mentor?
- There was no mentor, I did everything according to logic, researched, if I saw something useful on the forum, I studied this topic, read articles about security, how everything works, and acted on my own. There was a partner, but this is to share the work.
- How many mammoths on average can you lead at a time?
- It all depends on your multitasking skills, in my case I can only lead 5-6 people in different directions. There are people who can do more, eat less, it all depends on the person.
- Is blackmail considered a decent divorce? Or is this not welcome in your circles?
- It's a dirty move, but they will go to the "puss" (the one who is afraid of exposure). It is a matter of taste, whether a person wants to engage in "pure" blackmail when he is trying to bring a pedophile to the surface, then yes, here the whole community welcomes to fight with full of data freaks. The rest, as a rule, do not touch.
- Is there an unspoken taboo on divorce of any categories of people?
- Yes, there is an unspoken taboo. It is impossible to drag in pensioners, disabled people and the weak-minded in schemes, because these are people who are very naive, and they may simply sometimes not understand. This is a very dirty deed, which only people without conscience resort to, because if a person is engaged in such a thing, deceives all kinds of grandmothers, grandfathers, disabled people who cannot even work, that is, they really cannot even provide a good life for themselves, ordinary hard workers with disabilities , if people do this, then they are not accepted into our society. If we find out about this on a forum or in a chat somewhere, then the person is immediately kicked out.
- About a standard situation when a FB page is hacked, what is the mechanism?
- How it worked before: you needed to find out the person's number and his passport data. Passport data, in fact, is very easy to find out when you have acquaintances in certain structures, or you learn the data through thorny paths.
For example, you introduce yourself as an agent of a modeling agency, post an ad with a competition in some public. In this scheme, you lead a person to the fact that you choose him, you say that you fit the data for us, you chatter, you say that she is such a supermodel that you just dump your head off. And so, they say, there is only a small convention, you need to come to a test photo session, you do not need to pay anything, you just need your passport data so that we can add you to the database. You also recognize a mobile phone. You make a request to the operator through the left FB page in their Facebook group, you write, they say, I want to forward calls to another number. He asks for passport details and number, you give him all this. I repeat, now via social media. network forwarding will no longer work.
When the victim is asleep, we take the page away - we do a password recovery, an SMS comes to his phone, after the second SMS request, the bot calls you to the forwarded number, which says the recovery code, you change the password. Then you just change the phone number, and 80% that the victim will simply score, since nothing can be restored anyway. In our experience, those. FB support responds for about 3-4 days, during this time you will already have time to do anything with the page.
Even the most commonplace, how to protect yourself from the fact that your page is not taken away - is not to go to unverified third-party resources on which you need to log in. If you log in to such a resource, the so-called phishing site, where a person enters data, this data will fall into third hands. Hackers simply make a hand-on-middle function, that is, a hand in the middle, a hand that intercepts data.
On such phishing sites, you, people, enter your data, and the machine receives them, that is, the most important thing here is to be vigilant, to understand what, where and how.
If you enter your data left and right, then you will simply remain barefoot and without everything.
And the excuse can be anything from free stickers to discounts at dodo pizza.
- Are password guessing aggregators a myth?
- Not a myth, no, of course. It just worked before, in the bearded 2010, when the passwords were very simple. Now, to get rid of - this is just the name of how passwords are selected through the library (this library contains the most common passwords that, through certain programs, select the same cherished password), standard libraries are not enough.
- Why do they most often ask to transfer money to an bank card? I was most often asked to do this when friends were hacked.
- Why to Bank, I don't know. This is the addiction of new guys, I don't know why they do this, what are the privileges, but most desirable are Webmoney, PayPal and QIWI. The rest is just an unnecessary topic.
- If you take social networks, where are you most likely to run into a divorce? And where is the audience still more vigilant?
- Classmates are fierce mammoths, FB is an average level of difficulty, here you must at least know the basics. Telegram - so far unknown to me, but it is a little more complicated there than in FB.
The audience is almost all of fools and suckers. With no exceptions.
Even I got divorced very spontaneously - $ 3k were taken away from me. So no one is immune to being protected at all times.
- What scheme did you fall for yourself? Was that before you started doing it yourself?
- It happened just a week ago, when I wanted to buy a private cheat (God, just don't laugh) for one game, it costs about $ 4-5k per month of subscription. Well, I, like the last sucker, fell for the low price of $ 3k, and they dumped me.
- Was it offensive or would you shake hands with a colleague who outwitted you?
- First I would give it with a star, and then I would shake hands.
- How did you come to this sphere yourself? What was your first divorce?
- Apparently, inherent in the genotype, to be like that. In the 6th grade, I rented a bike from a friend and did not return it. I liked this idea, but then I didn’t trade like that, I liked to cheat people on the net more, there is less chance that they will be given a star. And I returned the great.
- And the first time on the network?
- Skins from the counter strike. It was an ordinary business, then it was not yet so popular. The knife stole for $ 2k. The bottom line is that through the exchange of one type of chat, I persuaded to make a transfer, they say, I had already sent the money, they don’t come, I pressed on pity, etc., I persuaded as best I could. In the end, he sent me the item, and I went offline for him forever. At first he ran in the game with him, then he sold it to a friend for $ 1k wooden ones, so everyone was in the black, except for the mammoth.
- What is the largest amount you raised at a time?
- Freelance. Pretended to be a layout designer, one individual entrepreneur had to make a website, and he gave me 12k rubles on prepayment. I quickly went to the scam and started the procedure of cleaning the money, because the amount is relatively large, it would be necessary to "clean it".
- Why is money laundered, what will happen if this is not done?
- Money is laundered only for one thing - in all these areas of Internet fraud, money is obtained electronically, and, as we know, the tax service works very closely with banks, which provide it with data on all users and on all transfers. If it is one-time and the amounts are small, well, there will be $ 5-10000 fires every six months, and okay, then you don't have to launder in principle, this will not greatly affect karma. The criminal, so to speak, will not sharpen a grudge against you, but when a monthly calculation of $ 1 or more goes to you from somewhere on your card, from one resource, the tax authorities will come and there will be questions about where the additional income comes from. In short, so that all this tinsel is not there, the whole thing must be laundered, because the money was obtained in a dirty way.
- How did the cleaning take place?
- The so-called money laundering. The procedure is simple, but hemorrhoid in time. It all depends on the amount that you want to drive away, if it is small, $ 3-4-5000, then you don't need to drive it out, from $ 10k you already need to clean them. Through currency exchangers, the scheme is as simple as two fingers on the asphalt - from a wallet to bitcoin, from a cue ball to another wallet, from a wallet to a cue ball and then to a bank card. If the amount is decent, from 20 or more, you need to constantly maintain the interval of transferring money to other wallets and also a different amount, i.e. break it down into its components. Let's say $ 20k. You break them into 4359 wooden ones and then translate them, make an interval a day and do the same, only in a different amount, until you get everything out.
- Was it such that, after all, anonymity was disclosed and there was a real risk to freedom or health?
- Nope. When you do everything competently and do not touch upon the topic of the Chekists, then you will never be caught. The Chekists, they are the FSB, are always interested in the following shots - pedophiles, card fraudsters (there are especially large sums of money flying, from hundreds of thousands to many millions), arms dealers, child pornography, prohibited literature (extremism), drugs in especially large ones.
- So there is no point in contacting the police? They won't do it?
- In the police will be interested if there is a mass theft, when money will be written off from many patients. So no, it's easier to score, the police don't need an extra hanger, and we use it.
- Why did you do this? Sports passion or money? The amounts, as I understand it, are not exorbitant.
- Sports interest. In fact, it is very useful to know how all this works, because we have a lot of scammers, very ... The amounts are small simply because I was doing this in my free time and did not raise more than $ 20k a month, there was no point ...
- Sometimes you feel sorry for mammoths or a sucker should pay, and this is the norm? Does your conscience bother you?
- Conscience ... Not in this area, buddy. Here is a conscience, if you have, you cannot force a person to do what you need. So, in short, if, no, wild shameless people live here.
- Does anyone you know know what you did?
- The fewer people know, the better. Only one friend knows, and then he somehow does not care. In this case, anonymity is needed, so that none of the relatives knows.
- What is the most interesting incident in your career?
- I wanted to get the bank's database for free, and he wanted to give me a dummy.
For a very long time I tried to understand whether he really cares for me or not. As it turned out, he has no idea how it is even mined, this base. In the end, I just played along - we even both laughed and parted, but it was the best experience.
And from the schemes, but not really. Sometimes there were vigilant citizens with whom the conversation did not get involved, but no, there was nothing interesting among the mammoths.
- How can you immediately recognize a fraudster?
- It's all very relative. You cannot immediately name all the signs by which you can determine it. The most important thing is that he wants something from you, a service / money, nothing else is given. It is necessary to calculate, understand how communication is built, against the background of which, how a person communicates, how long have they known each other. This is pure psychology, so there really is no right way. How to determine - this must be through trial and error and knowledge of the schemes and what is now popular, what is in use. As from time immemorial it was and will be, on hype topics to trade non-existent garbage, such as "plants from the coronavirus." After all, in reality, they sell this, and it is on the Internet, and people are being led. That is, such a seasonal exacerbation can be recognized as a fraud.
- What does the victim need to do in order to have at least some chance of returning at least part of the money, if she is nevertheless divorced?
- Here a lot of factors depend on what the money was transferred through, how the deception took place, where, and so on. If everything was done correctly, I say, nothing will help to return them, well, of course, to ordinary citizens without connections.
- Why did you decide to quit and is it for good? If you are in the mood, are you ready to return?
- There will be a need for money and freedom of action, then yes, I will definitely come back. I decided to quit only because the white salary is more than my adventures. There, of course, there is a lot that can be done, but why, if there are work norms?