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The conversation will be about what a carder should never forget about, and indeed any criminal in general - how to behave in the first days after arrest. Unfortunately, I will not be able to do all my life experience
splash out on this page, but I will give a few tips. There is a sad statistics according to which most of the first-timers are injected in the cop on the first day to the very ass and put themselves in prison. And all this in spite of all the show-off that they threw in freedom .. warm relations with accomplices are immediately forgotten, and the former colleague is already perceived as a chance to escape, blaming everything on him. But about people who give up, a separate conversation, I wanted to give a couple of tips on how not to put yourself in prison. In short, sew up your mouth, and cut off your hands when they grabbed you. whoever does this may not read further .... and this is a joke only partially .. the effect of your behavior should be just that. The main thing is to hold out for the first three days, but the first day is still the most important, since after it you will have a break at night (this is for most ... for serious people this will not happen) and you will get a chance to analyze everything that happened and be able to work out a plan of behavior. but there is also a nuance ... if you
if you analyze the alternatives offered by the operas, then you will lose again. discount the fact that by nightfall 80% of your brain's contents will be filled with what the opera wants to do and you will think the way they want ... This is because they prick people like you all day long and for long years ... they are taught this. So in order to try to win the "game in the free game" with them, you need to sit at least once. One of the most common tricks they use is false alternatives .. ie. They say to you - "either you tell everything or you sit down." (This is too rude of course, in fact the sentence will be disguised) .. this is now, when you sit at the monitors and drink coffee, you probably grin .. and then, when your brain is feverish look for a way out of the situation, he will fall into this trap. Remember one thing - the police have exactly the opposite tasks than yours, and everything they do is aimed at making you sit down as long as possible .. so that every thoughtless word of yours, every signature in the papers increases this period. Think about it. In fact, there are not two or three ways out of the situation, but more ... and the police are naturally silent about the most painless for you, or even proves to you their impossibility ... so remember once and for all: there is no faith in cops !. Move on. The whole system of "promotion and punishment" is arranged in such a way that several "collectives" are dealing with your fate. You will be the first to get acquainted with the operatives, their task is to get the maximum of the papers you signed from you by all legal and illegal means, and ideally to achieve your full recognition and the issuance of all evidence. In other words, you are being prepared for transfer to another instance - to the investigator. The most important thing is that you will already write one wrong word with the investigator in the first report and you will regret it for the rest of your life, because if a person changed his testimony several times, then the court judges him by the first. -> the court exchanges only papers, so the judge, the one who really decides your fate, will pass judgment on you mainly on the basis of what you wrote about yourself on the first day. And finally, a couple of phrases about those "people" with whom you will encounter: And one more thing, the investigator -> the court only exchanges papers, so the judge, the one who really decides your fate, will pronounce you a verdict mainly on the basis of what you wrote about yourself on the first day. And finally, a couple of phrases about those "people" with whom you will encounter: And one more thing, the investigator -> the court only exchanges papers, so the judge, the one who really decides your fate, will pronounce you a verdict mainly on the basis of what you wrote about yourself on the first day. And finally, a couple of phrases about those "people" with whom you will encounter:
- Opera .. (be prepared that during a search in your box they will "find" 1kg of heroin and will offer to confess in exchange for the removal of this charge (Article 228ch4 from 7 to 15) PS:
you cannot prove in court that heroin is not yours, but only increase the currently term "libel" to the police.
- Experts (find drugs in the urine even if there was water from the toilet instead of urine).
- An investigator (a receipt will take all your money, offering to buy cigarettes and food, get off a pack of "Pegasus" and loaf ... you won't see this money again (a standard trick with all convicts ... about a hundred prisoners were interviewed))
- Judges (real case: "sentence of 15 years!" ... lawyer - "?? Your Honor, article until 12! "... the judge (indifferent) ..." aa ... well then 12! ")
.. well, that's actually all for now ... in fact, I haven't written here even 1% of what is desirable to know ... but life shows that people are taught not by books and articles, but by life situations .....
PSS: if still go to jail, sew up your mouth again, but that's a completely different story.
Ok, since there is an audience, I will continue. I will try to speculate in more detail about the detention and promotion. Let's start from the very beginning. They will most likely come for you in the morning, I don’t know why, but apparently by the evening the police are already tired of fighting crime (as an option, they will come for your friends in the morning, by lunchtime they will spin up, and only then will they find you). My opinion why they prefer the first half of the day is because before the end of the working day they need to decide on you 1) You go into denial and go home in the evening
2) You write about your adventures and after that you already remain in the IVS legally. There is also a third option, it is illegal, but they also use it: leave you there for the night without reason. The IVS will not accept you, so you will spend the night either in the monkey house (who does not know, this is such a cell in the duty room where most often alcoholics wait for their identity to be established) or in another office building. In the case when the FSB is interested in the case, it is possible to "hang out" in such office premises for a week. Any mention of a lawyer and a phone call will cause hysterical laughter from everyone present. 4) an option is if the police are very lucky and the evidence against you is so strong that they are enough even without your confession for detention. (This does not apply to computer crimes, since the examination of the seized computer will take two months ... it's more for people caught with a knife near a corpse). For some reason, people who first find themselves in such a situation are very frightened by the prospect of staying there for the night (by the way, the opera understands this and get another trump card in the struggle for frank recognition) Do not be afraid of this! You need to choose the lesser of evils. 1-3 days in a temporary detention facility mean nothing compared to several years in the zones of Mordovia. (I knew one old man who, when I heard that he was being sent back
in Mordovia began to cut veins with a razor). I'll tell you why I constantly talk about three days. Three days later, the investigator takes in an armful of what you wrote on yourself and goes to the assistant prosecutor for a decision. (in other words, he must decide where to wait for the trial at home or in Butyrka (where 130 people live in a 32-local cell)). If the investigator does not have much in the armful, and most importantly, your confession is absent at least in something, then the citizen prosecutor sends the investigator three letters and you go home. So it is better to accept the fact that you will spend several days in a cage at the moment when you see the operas. During interrogations, get ready to see the game "good-n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * oh" (this is when several cops will yell at you (they will immediately beat the serious ones) and then they will be replaced by one with beer, cigarettes and a face full of sympathy) .. By the way, the real thing is actually .... the soul is eager to lay out everything to him. Elementary psychology works on everyone without exception. Advice - take a break, drink all the beer, smoke, but keep quiet and get ready to continue ... the cops will be even more angry because their salary is small, and the money spent on beer wasted. If you are detained more than one, then they will be interrogated in different rooms and in order to push you to "cleanliness" they can show the typewritten "testimony" of the accomplice (printed online in the next office by a free operative) .. for reliability there will be information of which the cops will be even more evil because their salary is small, and the money spent on beer wasted. If you are detained more than one, then they will be interrogated in different rooms and in order to push you to "cleanliness" they can show the typewritten "testimony" of the accomplice (printed online in the next office by a free operative) .. for reliability there will be information of which the cops will be even more evil because their salary is small, and the money spent on beer wasted. If you are detained more than one, then they will be interrogated in different rooms and in order to push you to "cleanliness" they can show the typewritten "testimony" of the accomplice (printed online in the next office by a free operative) .. for reliability there will be information of which
they own themselves and part of the nonsense that your accomplice actually carries. The most important thing during interrogations is nothing not to believe in, and nothing important not to talk about. They know a lot less than they are trying to show .... but even if they know everything, still send them to x. (not literally, of course, you shouldn't get angry once again, otherwise it will cost you a couple of broken ribs) .. and then I had one friend, at the trial, in the last word, the judge said: "Blow me x_, so that I fly around the hall . "... gave the maximum term. So it's better not to provoke them in vain, but you don't need to be afraid either. Three days, of course, is not all, there is still an investigation, a trial, but nevertheless, the "battle for Moscow" unfolds in the first days, and during the remaining months people hush and shake down what they wrote in the first three days. I would also like to say why it is impossible to hand over people, not even because it is ugly and not because the definition of "Bitch" will stick in prisons and it will become 10 times more difficult for you to live there ..... but because in a "group" case the possible term will be increased by about two times. So keep in mind, as soon as you opened your mouth to say "and I was not alone but with Vaska and it was his idea!" you immediately turn into a "group of persons with prior collusion" ..... and this is not from 1 to 3, but from 3 to 6 ... / well, for now, that's all I wanted to say ... if it seems worthy to you reading, I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. ) In this case, the possible period is approximately doubled. So keep in mind, as soon as you opened your mouth to say "and I was not alone but with Vaska and it was his idea!" you immediately turn into a "group of persons with prior collusion" ..... and this is not from 1 to 3, but from 3 to 6 ... / well, for now, that's all I wanted to say ... if it seems worthy to you reading, I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. ) In this case, the possible period is approximately doubled. So keep in mind, as soon as you opened your mouth to say "and I was not alone but with Vaska and it was his idea!" you immediately turn into a "group of persons with prior collusion" ..... and this is not from 1 to 3, but from 3 to 6 ... / well, for now, that's all I wanted to say ... if it seems worthy to you reading, I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. ) if this seems worth reading to you, then I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. ) if this seems worth reading to you, then I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. )
PS: I completely forgot about the topic of hiding evidence. Usually they are encrypted not at all from what is needed. It is often argued that it is better than PGP or DES, believe me, no one will decrypt anything ... and what IP investigators and judges do not know at all. (IP must be hidden for another reason - so as not to see the cops at all) ... you you will slip through something quite simple - you will forget the phones of all your accomplices on the caller ID, on the table you will have a sheaf of papers with your evil plans, testify yourself, and so on ..
And if you feel that you will no longer be able to excuse yourself, there is a chance to mimic the insane. Imagine yourself as a kind of Jesus Christ in a computer guise (I hope for the blasphemy I have this very minute the light will not turn off and the Pokémon from "P" will not come in). Say that at night you invade the information space through the monitor and travel live through all the nooks of the network, but if there is a burn or a scratch or scar, boldly show it and say that you just recently got into Petya's computer and could not get through to him through the monitor , or you were bitten by a computer worm. In general, drive away any blizzard. Also, say that during the reincarnation, the soul of Bill Geitz should have gotten to you and it went to you, but you are Jesus Christ computer, and old Bill Satan And you must by any means win the computer battle from him and protect the earth from general destruction.
Or tell me what a kind of Napoleon Bonopart and are called upon to fight computer viruses for the benefit of all your followers living on earth.
In this case, you can win, and instead of communicating with the gasoline-powered "friendship", the system administrator's place in the psychiatric hospital will continue to do your noble work.
Generally speaking, the main thing to keep silent is the old thing! and this is what I wrote for the very last time.
I thought a little and decided to continue.
Why do we need lawyers (a view from the dock).
There are two types of lawyers - "ours" and "cops". The first ones are much better, but they cost money, the second ones are free, but they hardly work or are outright fraudulent, and now more ...
At the first interrogation, the investigator will try to slip a paper on your signature, where you refuse the help of a lawyer, do not do this and you will see how the faces of people in uniform will immediately become sour, or, as an option, they will start telling you why you do not need him, all this is complete nonsense, if lawyers were allowed to the investigation from the first minutes, the crime detection rate would drop several times ..... the cases would simply fall apart before reaching the court. The first words that you hear from a lawyer are not to say anything else, from this moment the lawyer will disentangle everything that you have already managed to blab before his arrival. If the lawyer is paid by you / parents / friends, then you can relax a little, now all the paperwork and red tape will begin, the lawyer will give the correct answers on your behalf even before you open your mouth, and you will not be able to spoil yourself much. But do not rush to reveal your soul even to a lawyer, by and large you have no friends within these walls, many of the lawyers are former operatives and judges, and if you are Chicotillo and you have 33 murders, then such information can get
"where to go." In general, the lawyer is not very interested in how it really was, he works with what is in your case, so if you see persistent questions about those crimes with which the investigation is unfamiliar, I advise you to remain silent and change your defender in the future.
The fact is that some of the lawyers are fighting to increase the crime detection rate, personally, once upon a time when a lawyer demanded, they brought an uncle who advised me to tell the investigator everything in detail, and then he would try to get the prosecutor not to leave the place. I sent my uncle to x_, and later I noticed him several times in the same police department on different days, most likely it was a simple opera from the next office ... I'll make a reservation right away that you should expect any provocations only from the lawyer you were given free of charge, if you are sure that the lawyer has been paid for by you, then he probably will not participate in promotion, but will do what he should, and will work out his money. In general, my attitude towards lawyers is twofold, on the one hand, I am sure that all of them are swindlers who profit from someone else's grief, on the other hand, I understand that it is impossible without them .. / I will tell you why they are swindlers, just lawyers are businessmen and you are a wallet for him with money, and he will try to squeeze out as much money as possible, or even all that is. All attempts that I have known to negotiate with a lawyer on the principle of "chairs in the morning, money in the evening" have led nowhere. The lawyers are realists and understand that we do not have the US, and they will not be able to significantly change the judicial process. And if the judge has n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * th mood in the morning, then even 5 lawyers will not help here. Therefore, in reality, the work is proceeding according to the principle: I do what I can, and at the trial, as luck would have it. But if you are lucky with a lawyer and the case is not so strong, then there may not be a trial at all ... the case will fall apart. Sometimes there is almost no work for a lawyer on the case itself, except that he will forbid you to pour out your soul to the investigator, but since work off the money, he will lie to you and your relatives that he was in court today, the prosecutor's office, and so on. Almost all defenders suffer from this disease, but there is nowhere to go, without a lawyer. I advise you only to watch, so that in addition to lies, there are real results. In general, lawyers in our judicial system live on "bird rights", so if you have seen enough of American films where a lawyer takes the entire charge to hell, and their analogue of our prosecutor is almost afraid of him, forget about it. Everything is more boring here. Several participants in the process take turns looking at a piece of paper, and absolutely everyone does not care what happens to you. Only the speech of the lawyer stands out, he is the only one who was paid normally and he will speak his word with inspiration, but besides you, no one will listen to him, the judge will go through the papers, the prosecutor with a boring face will look out the window where the sparrows are jumping, and there will be no one else, well, maybe his speech will impress your sobbing relatives. In general, in my opinion, a lawyer is necessary for four things:
- forbid you to tell everything.
- ruin the case while you are awaiting trial.
- carry you cigarettes and lighters to prison.
- after the trial, in order to write all kinds of appeals for the reduction of the term and gossip.
It seems I have not forgotten anything .... you cannot do all this yourself, so start saving money, if you work as a team, collect Obshchak for such expenses.
I did not mention one more category of lawyers, the most valuable one, the one that can find approaches to the judge and pay the sentence. This option is the most reliable, but it is also not cheap, since the
lawyer will take part of the alleged bribe for himself, and there may also be intermediaries, etc. By the way, I do not advise you to fill up the judge's office with a wad of money, you can ruin the case, there are smarter ways ...
PS: the opera and those who serve in the security forces are not afraid of lawyers, but send them to x_, and sometimes beat them.
Heh ...
Okay. Old I think it will not be offended if I add.
1. Yes, indeed, the most important thing is to be silent. Your confession, even according to the Criminal Procedure Code, the case cannot be built on it alone, but it will give very strong ground for the collection of other evidence.
2. About signatures. You can subscribe ONLY for Art. 51 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation about your right not to testify against yourself and your close relatives. Both in the explanation and in the interrogation protocol, we refuse to give explanations / testimonies again under this article.
3. VERY IMPORTANT !!! All must have a very good friend, girlfriend, wife, parents or relatives who are not indifferent to your fate. That's what it is for. As soon as you are taken away, your sidekicks-girlfriends-wives-relatives-should immediately call the prosecutor's office. or to kraynyak 02 (exactly 02-only there they register every call to ZhUI !!). if it’s night and the prosecutor’s office doesn’t remove the trumpet, and they say that they were detained somewhere, for which we don’t know, let them say where they were taken if they know. Ask, why the heck is such a panic? And because otherwise you will not sit for 3 hours, but much more, they will simply not immediately write you down in the delivered book, and then your words will not help, and call 02 will do its job, and the person on duty will not take on such a load and will write everything down as necessary.
4 As for the fact that there is *** yat or not. *** yat. Painfully. But in a different way. So that there are no traces. VERY GOOD ADVICE !!!
So, they deliver you. Or for 3 hours, or more (if there is an arrest), but in any case, they are registered in the duty station (see paragraph above). There are 2 options: 1st, let's say you already have some kind of beatings. In this case, the duty room you are taken to a fracture clinic and there beating register, then to you to them all not to fall (though perhaps a beating you got on the road, but do not prove anything)
2nd-you deliver whole-then you are immediately recorded in the the book of the detainees, which means that there are no beatings.
Now a VERY STRONG CHIP. If point 3 is met and someone is not indifferent to you, then it works. In general, when they lead to a conversation with the operas, if you feel that they will be *** it, or that you will be smashed to pieces, or *** yat (but, as always, without a trace) - look around in the office, it is desirable that at that moment there were fewer operas, optimal 1, you are looking for the roughest surface - a wall, for example, or at least the corner of a table - a chair - and with a battle cry you disfigure yourself, rubbing your face with blood on the wall, or breaking your nose on the table, it is desirable to make a flashlight like a thread. If the beatings ALREADY were on delivery, then beat them where they were not. Yes, it is not easy, very difficult, but if you have enough spirit and you play normally, and your relatives are already circling around the department and worried about you, and the prosecutor's office knows thanks to their call about you, then the cops will give anything to get rid of you. Because everyone is afraid of the prosecutor's office. It will be very difficult for them to prove that they are not *** or. In general, the goal is to register the beatings AFTER the cops, in this case, even if you sign something, you otmazhsya, saying that you signed under pressure. Imagine - you are led back to the duty room with a broken face - ANYONE in the cop - the boss, the duty officer, a simple sergeant - immediately the operatives will talk about the fucking consequences, and it will be easier for them to hang a story than to deal with such hemorrhoids like you. In general, I can n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * o explained, but I tried, I don't know the stronger moves yet. saying that they signed under pressure. Imagine - you are led back to the duty room with a broken face - ANYONE in the cop - the boss, the duty officer, a simple sergeant - immediately the operatives will talk about the fucking consequences, and it will be easier for them to hang a story than to deal with such hemorrhoids like you. In general, I can n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * o explained, but I tried, I don't know the stronger moves yet. saying that they signed under pressure. Imagine - you are led back to the duty room with a broken face - ANYONE in the cop - the boss, the duty officer, a simple sergeant - immediately the operatives will talk about the fucking consequences, and it will be easier for them to hang a story than to deal with such hemorrhoids like you. In general, I can n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * o explained, but I tried, I don't know the stronger moves yet.
5. They wrote about adokats here. In general, we have a new Criminal Procedure Code and with this Criminal Procedure Code we have cops. You have the right to carry a lawyer from the very beginning. He must immediately come running, relatives must bring him. At this stage, a lawyer can do a lot, since, according to the law, the operative does not really know how to work. A competent lawyer will immediately win you back, they have now been given the right to do so.
6. Here you correctly noticed that it is difficult to prove that you were sitting at the computer. Yes. Unrealistic. Even if at least the whole history of your machinations is on the screw. Say that you have a brothel at home, that your doors are almost open. List at least 3 prepared homies who have an idea of \ u200b \ u200bcomputers who allegedly have the keys to your hut. Meaning, not only you could sit at the computer, all doubts are in favor of the accused. Only here you really have good friends, so as not to let you down. Meaning, they confirm that in your home they are hanging out with you, and without you, and they are sitting at the computer, but all of you and they are in refusal of shenanigans. The current friends should not only be named orally, but written in the protocol. The approximate text of all your testimonies - "I did nothing, I do not know anything about computer crimes, not only I have access to the computer, but also this, this, this one. I refuse further testimony on the basis of Article 51 "and that's all. Let them try to present a thread, the prints will not help any more. Even though all transactions are in your name and mailing address. *** Your friends know them, who can joke, decided to make money anonymously?
Do not forget, you don’t have to prove your innocence, and your friends don’t have to, if they ask about an alibi, what did you do at that time, everyone answers, I don’t remember, no other otmaz. I DON'T REMEMBER!
In general, that's all for now, nothing else pops up in my head
. Good luck.
PS If someone would share their knowledge in carding like me with the cop's loopholes.
PSS Better not even ask how I know this
Oh yes, after they beat you out of the cops, immediately to the prosecutor's office with a statement about the lawlessness of the cops, from *** or in the department, they took the money (a lot of money), threatened to kill if I tell you like. The material for the robbery will be registered immediately in the PMC. Well, of course, they will break it down, they will leave the current infliction of bodily harm, but it will take a long time, and they will definitely leave you behind.
And then someone posted about the fact that drugs will be planted and imprisoned. In general, nonsense. Our UK is full of holes for this. Remember once and for all, whether there is a traffic cop on the road, a sergeant in the subway, in the office they ask if you have drugs or weapons, you don't need to smile and say that of course not, say that there is both. They will offer to get it, dig in your pockets and say that you can't find something, let them help you. VOLUNTARY DELIVERY OF DRUGS AND WEAPONS IS NOT CRIMINALLY PUNISHED. The main thing is to be searched in front of attesting witnesses. It happens that there are no witnesses. but they are inscribed. The lawyer will achieve their presence at the trial, and if the lawyer is efficient, then at the trial he will prove. that they were not. If the attesting witnesses are worse, but still do not give up, maybe they are police officers, then they will ruin the case. In general, you also need to be able to throw it. In most cases, what the opera is doing is interrogators and snoopers are falling apart. And the lawyers are good (ex-cops are the best in this business)
Just wait with the voluntary surrender of drugs until the moment when witnesses are found - if drugs are planted on you, then the opera counts that when asked "do you have drugs-weapons?" answer no. and the attesting witnesses are being dragged by normal ones. This question is asked with witnesses, here and answer boldly, that there is a pound of assorted drugs, and some other firearms. The cops will have interesting facial expressions.
In general, this is the way. From garbage- * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * about V. But not 100% as you understood. I’ll still move my thoughts about what to do if the cops did everything correctly and didn’t ask you a question, but in the search protocol everything was as it should be (that is, the attesting witnesses confirmed that you didn’t surrender voluntarily).
Oh yes, after they beat you out of the cops, immediately to the prosecutor's office with a statement about the lawlessness of the cops, from *** or in the department, they took the money (a lot of money), threatened to kill if I tell you like. The material for the robbery will be registered immediately in the PMC. Well, of course, they will break it down, they will leave the current infliction of bodily harm, but it will take a long time, and they will definitely leave you behind.
So far, the only idea is to refuse, do not sign the protocol, DO NOT TAKE the packages with drugs IN HAND !!! hmm .. if you find it in the jacket, write that you found the jacket. did not climb into the pockets. let them prove what's wrong. in theory, according to the law, without your recognition in this scenario, one search protocol is not enough. the guilt has not been proven.
The conversation will be about what a carder should never forget about, and indeed any criminal in general - how to behave in the first days after arrest. Unfortunately, I will not be able to do all my life experience
splash out on this page, but I will give a few tips. There is a sad statistics according to which most of the first-timers are injected in the cop on the first day to the very ass and put themselves in prison. And all this in spite of all the show-off that they threw in freedom .. warm relations with accomplices are immediately forgotten, and the former colleague is already perceived as a chance to escape, blaming everything on him. But about people who give up, a separate conversation, I wanted to give a couple of tips on how not to put yourself in prison. In short, sew up your mouth, and cut off your hands when they grabbed you. whoever does this may not read further .... and this is a joke only partially .. the effect of your behavior should be just that. The main thing is to hold out for the first three days, but the first day is still the most important, since after it you will have a break at night (this is for most ... for serious people this will not happen) and you will get a chance to analyze everything that happened and be able to work out a plan of behavior. but there is also a nuance ... if you
if you analyze the alternatives offered by the operas, then you will lose again. discount the fact that by nightfall 80% of your brain's contents will be filled with what the opera wants to do and you will think the way they want ... This is because they prick people like you all day long and for long years ... they are taught this. So in order to try to win the "game in the free game" with them, you need to sit at least once. One of the most common tricks they use is false alternatives .. ie. They say to you - "either you tell everything or you sit down." (This is too rude of course, in fact the sentence will be disguised) .. this is now, when you sit at the monitors and drink coffee, you probably grin .. and then, when your brain is feverish look for a way out of the situation, he will fall into this trap. Remember one thing - the police have exactly the opposite tasks than yours, and everything they do is aimed at making you sit down as long as possible .. so that every thoughtless word of yours, every signature in the papers increases this period. Think about it. In fact, there are not two or three ways out of the situation, but more ... and the police are naturally silent about the most painless for you, or even proves to you their impossibility ... so remember once and for all: there is no faith in cops !. Move on. The whole system of "promotion and punishment" is arranged in such a way that several "collectives" are dealing with your fate. You will be the first to get acquainted with the operatives, their task is to get the maximum of the papers you signed from you by all legal and illegal means, and ideally to achieve your full recognition and the issuance of all evidence. In other words, you are being prepared for transfer to another instance - to the investigator. The most important thing is that you will already write one wrong word with the investigator in the first report and you will regret it for the rest of your life, because if a person changed his testimony several times, then the court judges him by the first. -> the court exchanges only papers, so the judge, the one who really decides your fate, will pass judgment on you mainly on the basis of what you wrote about yourself on the first day. And finally, a couple of phrases about those "people" with whom you will encounter: And one more thing, the investigator -> the court only exchanges papers, so the judge, the one who really decides your fate, will pronounce you a verdict mainly on the basis of what you wrote about yourself on the first day. And finally, a couple of phrases about those "people" with whom you will encounter: And one more thing, the investigator -> the court only exchanges papers, so the judge, the one who really decides your fate, will pronounce you a verdict mainly on the basis of what you wrote about yourself on the first day. And finally, a couple of phrases about those "people" with whom you will encounter:
- Opera .. (be prepared that during a search in your box they will "find" 1kg of heroin and will offer to confess in exchange for the removal of this charge (Article 228ch4 from 7 to 15) PS:
you cannot prove in court that heroin is not yours, but only increase the currently term "libel" to the police.
- Experts (find drugs in the urine even if there was water from the toilet instead of urine).
- An investigator (a receipt will take all your money, offering to buy cigarettes and food, get off a pack of "Pegasus" and loaf ... you won't see this money again (a standard trick with all convicts ... about a hundred prisoners were interviewed))
- Judges (real case: "sentence of 15 years!" ... lawyer - "?? Your Honor, article until 12! "... the judge (indifferent) ..." aa ... well then 12! ")
.. well, that's actually all for now ... in fact, I haven't written here even 1% of what is desirable to know ... but life shows that people are taught not by books and articles, but by life situations .....
PSS: if still go to jail, sew up your mouth again, but that's a completely different story.
Ok, since there is an audience, I will continue. I will try to speculate in more detail about the detention and promotion. Let's start from the very beginning. They will most likely come for you in the morning, I don’t know why, but apparently by the evening the police are already tired of fighting crime (as an option, they will come for your friends in the morning, by lunchtime they will spin up, and only then will they find you). My opinion why they prefer the first half of the day is because before the end of the working day they need to decide on you 1) You go into denial and go home in the evening
2) You write about your adventures and after that you already remain in the IVS legally. There is also a third option, it is illegal, but they also use it: leave you there for the night without reason. The IVS will not accept you, so you will spend the night either in the monkey house (who does not know, this is such a cell in the duty room where most often alcoholics wait for their identity to be established) or in another office building. In the case when the FSB is interested in the case, it is possible to "hang out" in such office premises for a week. Any mention of a lawyer and a phone call will cause hysterical laughter from everyone present. 4) an option is if the police are very lucky and the evidence against you is so strong that they are enough even without your confession for detention. (This does not apply to computer crimes, since the examination of the seized computer will take two months ... it's more for people caught with a knife near a corpse). For some reason, people who first find themselves in such a situation are very frightened by the prospect of staying there for the night (by the way, the opera understands this and get another trump card in the struggle for frank recognition) Do not be afraid of this! You need to choose the lesser of evils. 1-3 days in a temporary detention facility mean nothing compared to several years in the zones of Mordovia. (I knew one old man who, when I heard that he was being sent back
in Mordovia began to cut veins with a razor). I'll tell you why I constantly talk about three days. Three days later, the investigator takes in an armful of what you wrote on yourself and goes to the assistant prosecutor for a decision. (in other words, he must decide where to wait for the trial at home or in Butyrka (where 130 people live in a 32-local cell)). If the investigator does not have much in the armful, and most importantly, your confession is absent at least in something, then the citizen prosecutor sends the investigator three letters and you go home. So it is better to accept the fact that you will spend several days in a cage at the moment when you see the operas. During interrogations, get ready to see the game "good-n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * oh" (this is when several cops will yell at you (they will immediately beat the serious ones) and then they will be replaced by one with beer, cigarettes and a face full of sympathy) .. By the way, the real thing is actually .... the soul is eager to lay out everything to him. Elementary psychology works on everyone without exception. Advice - take a break, drink all the beer, smoke, but keep quiet and get ready to continue ... the cops will be even more angry because their salary is small, and the money spent on beer wasted. If you are detained more than one, then they will be interrogated in different rooms and in order to push you to "cleanliness" they can show the typewritten "testimony" of the accomplice (printed online in the next office by a free operative) .. for reliability there will be information of which the cops will be even more evil because their salary is small, and the money spent on beer wasted. If you are detained more than one, then they will be interrogated in different rooms and in order to push you to "cleanliness" they can show the typewritten "testimony" of the accomplice (printed online in the next office by a free operative) .. for reliability there will be information of which the cops will be even more evil because their salary is small, and the money spent on beer wasted. If you are detained more than one, then they will be interrogated in different rooms and in order to push you to "cleanliness" they can show the typewritten "testimony" of the accomplice (printed online in the next office by a free operative) .. for reliability there will be information of which
they own themselves and part of the nonsense that your accomplice actually carries. The most important thing during interrogations is nothing not to believe in, and nothing important not to talk about. They know a lot less than they are trying to show .... but even if they know everything, still send them to x. (not literally, of course, you shouldn't get angry once again, otherwise it will cost you a couple of broken ribs) .. and then I had one friend, at the trial, in the last word, the judge said: "Blow me x_, so that I fly around the hall . "... gave the maximum term. So it's better not to provoke them in vain, but you don't need to be afraid either. Three days, of course, is not all, there is still an investigation, a trial, but nevertheless, the "battle for Moscow" unfolds in the first days, and during the remaining months people hush and shake down what they wrote in the first three days. I would also like to say why it is impossible to hand over people, not even because it is ugly and not because the definition of "Bitch" will stick in prisons and it will become 10 times more difficult for you to live there ..... but because in a "group" case the possible term will be increased by about two times. So keep in mind, as soon as you opened your mouth to say "and I was not alone but with Vaska and it was his idea!" you immediately turn into a "group of persons with prior collusion" ..... and this is not from 1 to 3, but from 3 to 6 ... / well, for now, that's all I wanted to say ... if it seems worthy to you reading, I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. ) In this case, the possible period is approximately doubled. So keep in mind, as soon as you opened your mouth to say "and I was not alone but with Vaska and it was his idea!" you immediately turn into a "group of persons with prior collusion" ..... and this is not from 1 to 3, but from 3 to 6 ... / well, for now, that's all I wanted to say ... if it seems worthy to you reading, I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. ) In this case, the possible period is approximately doubled. So keep in mind, as soon as you opened your mouth to say "and I was not alone but with Vaska and it was his idea!" you immediately turn into a "group of persons with prior collusion" ..... and this is not from 1 to 3, but from 3 to 6 ... / well, for now, that's all I wanted to say ... if it seems worthy to you reading, I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. ) if this seems worth reading to you, then I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. ) if this seems worth reading to you, then I can also highlight the choice and relationship with a lawyer, the first day in prison, and so on. )
PS: I completely forgot about the topic of hiding evidence. Usually they are encrypted not at all from what is needed. It is often argued that it is better than PGP or DES, believe me, no one will decrypt anything ... and what IP investigators and judges do not know at all. (IP must be hidden for another reason - so as not to see the cops at all) ... you you will slip through something quite simple - you will forget the phones of all your accomplices on the caller ID, on the table you will have a sheaf of papers with your evil plans, testify yourself, and so on ..
And if you feel that you will no longer be able to excuse yourself, there is a chance to mimic the insane. Imagine yourself as a kind of Jesus Christ in a computer guise (I hope for the blasphemy I have this very minute the light will not turn off and the Pokémon from "P" will not come in). Say that at night you invade the information space through the monitor and travel live through all the nooks of the network, but if there is a burn or a scratch or scar, boldly show it and say that you just recently got into Petya's computer and could not get through to him through the monitor , or you were bitten by a computer worm. In general, drive away any blizzard. Also, say that during the reincarnation, the soul of Bill Geitz should have gotten to you and it went to you, but you are Jesus Christ computer, and old Bill Satan And you must by any means win the computer battle from him and protect the earth from general destruction.
Or tell me what a kind of Napoleon Bonopart and are called upon to fight computer viruses for the benefit of all your followers living on earth.
In this case, you can win, and instead of communicating with the gasoline-powered "friendship", the system administrator's place in the psychiatric hospital will continue to do your noble work.
Generally speaking, the main thing to keep silent is the old thing! and this is what I wrote for the very last time.
I thought a little and decided to continue.
Why do we need lawyers (a view from the dock).
There are two types of lawyers - "ours" and "cops". The first ones are much better, but they cost money, the second ones are free, but they hardly work or are outright fraudulent, and now more ...
At the first interrogation, the investigator will try to slip a paper on your signature, where you refuse the help of a lawyer, do not do this and you will see how the faces of people in uniform will immediately become sour, or, as an option, they will start telling you why you do not need him, all this is complete nonsense, if lawyers were allowed to the investigation from the first minutes, the crime detection rate would drop several times ..... the cases would simply fall apart before reaching the court. The first words that you hear from a lawyer are not to say anything else, from this moment the lawyer will disentangle everything that you have already managed to blab before his arrival. If the lawyer is paid by you / parents / friends, then you can relax a little, now all the paperwork and red tape will begin, the lawyer will give the correct answers on your behalf even before you open your mouth, and you will not be able to spoil yourself much. But do not rush to reveal your soul even to a lawyer, by and large you have no friends within these walls, many of the lawyers are former operatives and judges, and if you are Chicotillo and you have 33 murders, then such information can get
"where to go." In general, the lawyer is not very interested in how it really was, he works with what is in your case, so if you see persistent questions about those crimes with which the investigation is unfamiliar, I advise you to remain silent and change your defender in the future.
The fact is that some of the lawyers are fighting to increase the crime detection rate, personally, once upon a time when a lawyer demanded, they brought an uncle who advised me to tell the investigator everything in detail, and then he would try to get the prosecutor not to leave the place. I sent my uncle to x_, and later I noticed him several times in the same police department on different days, most likely it was a simple opera from the next office ... I'll make a reservation right away that you should expect any provocations only from the lawyer you were given free of charge, if you are sure that the lawyer has been paid for by you, then he probably will not participate in promotion, but will do what he should, and will work out his money. In general, my attitude towards lawyers is twofold, on the one hand, I am sure that all of them are swindlers who profit from someone else's grief, on the other hand, I understand that it is impossible without them .. / I will tell you why they are swindlers, just lawyers are businessmen and you are a wallet for him with money, and he will try to squeeze out as much money as possible, or even all that is. All attempts that I have known to negotiate with a lawyer on the principle of "chairs in the morning, money in the evening" have led nowhere. The lawyers are realists and understand that we do not have the US, and they will not be able to significantly change the judicial process. And if the judge has n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * th mood in the morning, then even 5 lawyers will not help here. Therefore, in reality, the work is proceeding according to the principle: I do what I can, and at the trial, as luck would have it. But if you are lucky with a lawyer and the case is not so strong, then there may not be a trial at all ... the case will fall apart. Sometimes there is almost no work for a lawyer on the case itself, except that he will forbid you to pour out your soul to the investigator, but since work off the money, he will lie to you and your relatives that he was in court today, the prosecutor's office, and so on. Almost all defenders suffer from this disease, but there is nowhere to go, without a lawyer. I advise you only to watch, so that in addition to lies, there are real results. In general, lawyers in our judicial system live on "bird rights", so if you have seen enough of American films where a lawyer takes the entire charge to hell, and their analogue of our prosecutor is almost afraid of him, forget about it. Everything is more boring here. Several participants in the process take turns looking at a piece of paper, and absolutely everyone does not care what happens to you. Only the speech of the lawyer stands out, he is the only one who was paid normally and he will speak his word with inspiration, but besides you, no one will listen to him, the judge will go through the papers, the prosecutor with a boring face will look out the window where the sparrows are jumping, and there will be no one else, well, maybe his speech will impress your sobbing relatives. In general, in my opinion, a lawyer is necessary for four things:
- forbid you to tell everything.
- ruin the case while you are awaiting trial.
- carry you cigarettes and lighters to prison.
- after the trial, in order to write all kinds of appeals for the reduction of the term and gossip.
It seems I have not forgotten anything .... you cannot do all this yourself, so start saving money, if you work as a team, collect Obshchak for such expenses.
I did not mention one more category of lawyers, the most valuable one, the one that can find approaches to the judge and pay the sentence. This option is the most reliable, but it is also not cheap, since the
lawyer will take part of the alleged bribe for himself, and there may also be intermediaries, etc. By the way, I do not advise you to fill up the judge's office with a wad of money, you can ruin the case, there are smarter ways ...
PS: the opera and those who serve in the security forces are not afraid of lawyers, but send them to x_, and sometimes beat them.
Heh ...
Okay. Old I think it will not be offended if I add.
1. Yes, indeed, the most important thing is to be silent. Your confession, even according to the Criminal Procedure Code, the case cannot be built on it alone, but it will give very strong ground for the collection of other evidence.
2. About signatures. You can subscribe ONLY for Art. 51 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation about your right not to testify against yourself and your close relatives. Both in the explanation and in the interrogation protocol, we refuse to give explanations / testimonies again under this article.
3. VERY IMPORTANT !!! All must have a very good friend, girlfriend, wife, parents or relatives who are not indifferent to your fate. That's what it is for. As soon as you are taken away, your sidekicks-girlfriends-wives-relatives-should immediately call the prosecutor's office. or to kraynyak 02 (exactly 02-only there they register every call to ZhUI !!). if it’s night and the prosecutor’s office doesn’t remove the trumpet, and they say that they were detained somewhere, for which we don’t know, let them say where they were taken if they know. Ask, why the heck is such a panic? And because otherwise you will not sit for 3 hours, but much more, they will simply not immediately write you down in the delivered book, and then your words will not help, and call 02 will do its job, and the person on duty will not take on such a load and will write everything down as necessary.
4 As for the fact that there is *** yat or not. *** yat. Painfully. But in a different way. So that there are no traces. VERY GOOD ADVICE !!!
So, they deliver you. Or for 3 hours, or more (if there is an arrest), but in any case, they are registered in the duty station (see paragraph above). There are 2 options: 1st, let's say you already have some kind of beatings. In this case, the duty room you are taken to a fracture clinic and there beating register, then to you to them all not to fall (though perhaps a beating you got on the road, but do not prove anything)
2nd-you deliver whole-then you are immediately recorded in the the book of the detainees, which means that there are no beatings.
Now a VERY STRONG CHIP. If point 3 is met and someone is not indifferent to you, then it works. In general, when they lead to a conversation with the operas, if you feel that they will be *** it, or that you will be smashed to pieces, or *** yat (but, as always, without a trace) - look around in the office, it is desirable that at that moment there were fewer operas, optimal 1, you are looking for the roughest surface - a wall, for example, or at least the corner of a table - a chair - and with a battle cry you disfigure yourself, rubbing your face with blood on the wall, or breaking your nose on the table, it is desirable to make a flashlight like a thread. If the beatings ALREADY were on delivery, then beat them where they were not. Yes, it is not easy, very difficult, but if you have enough spirit and you play normally, and your relatives are already circling around the department and worried about you, and the prosecutor's office knows thanks to their call about you, then the cops will give anything to get rid of you. Because everyone is afraid of the prosecutor's office. It will be very difficult for them to prove that they are not *** or. In general, the goal is to register the beatings AFTER the cops, in this case, even if you sign something, you otmazhsya, saying that you signed under pressure. Imagine - you are led back to the duty room with a broken face - ANYONE in the cop - the boss, the duty officer, a simple sergeant - immediately the operatives will talk about the fucking consequences, and it will be easier for them to hang a story than to deal with such hemorrhoids like you. In general, I can n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * o explained, but I tried, I don't know the stronger moves yet. saying that they signed under pressure. Imagine - you are led back to the duty room with a broken face - ANYONE in the cop - the boss, the duty officer, a simple sergeant - immediately the operatives will talk about the fucking consequences, and it will be easier for them to hang a story than to deal with such hemorrhoids like you. In general, I can n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * o explained, but I tried, I don't know the stronger moves yet. saying that they signed under pressure. Imagine - you are led back to the duty room with a broken face - ANYONE in the cop - the boss, the duty officer, a simple sergeant - immediately the operatives will talk about the fucking consequences, and it will be easier for them to hang a story than to deal with such hemorrhoids like you. In general, I can n * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * o explained, but I tried, I don't know the stronger moves yet.
5. They wrote about adokats here. In general, we have a new Criminal Procedure Code and with this Criminal Procedure Code we have cops. You have the right to carry a lawyer from the very beginning. He must immediately come running, relatives must bring him. At this stage, a lawyer can do a lot, since, according to the law, the operative does not really know how to work. A competent lawyer will immediately win you back, they have now been given the right to do so.
6. Here you correctly noticed that it is difficult to prove that you were sitting at the computer. Yes. Unrealistic. Even if at least the whole history of your machinations is on the screw. Say that you have a brothel at home, that your doors are almost open. List at least 3 prepared homies who have an idea of \ u200b \ u200bcomputers who allegedly have the keys to your hut. Meaning, not only you could sit at the computer, all doubts are in favor of the accused. Only here you really have good friends, so as not to let you down. Meaning, they confirm that in your home they are hanging out with you, and without you, and they are sitting at the computer, but all of you and they are in refusal of shenanigans. The current friends should not only be named orally, but written in the protocol. The approximate text of all your testimonies - "I did nothing, I do not know anything about computer crimes, not only I have access to the computer, but also this, this, this one. I refuse further testimony on the basis of Article 51 "and that's all. Let them try to present a thread, the prints will not help any more. Even though all transactions are in your name and mailing address. *** Your friends know them, who can joke, decided to make money anonymously?
Do not forget, you don’t have to prove your innocence, and your friends don’t have to, if they ask about an alibi, what did you do at that time, everyone answers, I don’t remember, no other otmaz. I DON'T REMEMBER!
In general, that's all for now, nothing else pops up in my head
. Good luck.
PS If someone would share their knowledge in carding like me with the cop's loopholes.
PSS Better not even ask how I know this
Oh yes, after they beat you out of the cops, immediately to the prosecutor's office with a statement about the lawlessness of the cops, from *** or in the department, they took the money (a lot of money), threatened to kill if I tell you like. The material for the robbery will be registered immediately in the PMC. Well, of course, they will break it down, they will leave the current infliction of bodily harm, but it will take a long time, and they will definitely leave you behind.
And then someone posted about the fact that drugs will be planted and imprisoned. In general, nonsense. Our UK is full of holes for this. Remember once and for all, whether there is a traffic cop on the road, a sergeant in the subway, in the office they ask if you have drugs or weapons, you don't need to smile and say that of course not, say that there is both. They will offer to get it, dig in your pockets and say that you can't find something, let them help you. VOLUNTARY DELIVERY OF DRUGS AND WEAPONS IS NOT CRIMINALLY PUNISHED. The main thing is to be searched in front of attesting witnesses. It happens that there are no witnesses. but they are inscribed. The lawyer will achieve their presence at the trial, and if the lawyer is efficient, then at the trial he will prove. that they were not. If the attesting witnesses are worse, but still do not give up, maybe they are police officers, then they will ruin the case. In general, you also need to be able to throw it. In most cases, what the opera is doing is interrogators and snoopers are falling apart. And the lawyers are good (ex-cops are the best in this business)
Just wait with the voluntary surrender of drugs until the moment when witnesses are found - if drugs are planted on you, then the opera counts that when asked "do you have drugs-weapons?" answer no. and the attesting witnesses are being dragged by normal ones. This question is asked with witnesses, here and answer boldly, that there is a pound of assorted drugs, and some other firearms. The cops will have interesting facial expressions.
In general, this is the way. From garbage- * CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP ** CENSORSHIP * about V. But not 100% as you understood. I’ll still move my thoughts about what to do if the cops did everything correctly and didn’t ask you a question, but in the search protocol everything was as it should be (that is, the attesting witnesses confirmed that you didn’t surrender voluntarily).
Oh yes, after they beat you out of the cops, immediately to the prosecutor's office with a statement about the lawlessness of the cops, from *** or in the department, they took the money (a lot of money), threatened to kill if I tell you like. The material for the robbery will be registered immediately in the PMC. Well, of course, they will break it down, they will leave the current infliction of bodily harm, but it will take a long time, and they will definitely leave you behind.
So far, the only idea is to refuse, do not sign the protocol, DO NOT TAKE the packages with drugs IN HAND !!! hmm .. if you find it in the jacket, write that you found the jacket. did not climb into the pockets. let them prove what's wrong. in theory, according to the law, without your recognition in this scenario, one search protocol is not enough. the guilt has not been proven.
