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hello all !

chip encoding coming soon ? if visa,mastercard and america expreas encode the chip ... why we not encoding the chip too ? im a rookie in this topic ... so if you have more information ... droo the info here.


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google man: "emv" + "news" or "broken",
you will find out why you cannot just skim and encode. ;)
 

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hum dont have the money for finance this project !

and im fron canada ... 98% POS is chip system ...
 
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Crypto is broken already, people are doing it every then and now just that member here are not ready to let it out yet. Will do it someday
 

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already out in canada some guys have 1 card that u can encode on it and go cashout straight at the bank , the chip bypass all banks

1 card = 80k
 

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its not impossible and it could be truly exists but most of us not hear about it yet the one who have this power will not share for public that easy .
but that happens before in France early year 2000 or 2001 as i remember and they publish those software to the public one of those softwares was called gzerolee as i remember in which you can write / edit / any info on mc or vc chip cards and sooner the France banks update their encryption more harder , but all try to say that the history says that its not impossible and nothing is impossible if you sent your mind to it .
 

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Just think into this point of view: banks started using magnetic stripe around what? 80's? Guy in that time started doing it, manually, little groups of carders around the world, installing skimmers and all shit... In 00's we got the 'boom', and 20 years later we can buy and hack 10k dumps over the internet... Do you think banks always thought will come to this nightmare the magnetic stripe? Chip now is hard, soon little groups will start doing, and in some time (we can't know how much time) will be broke and the new nightmare for banks... it's a fact.
 

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already out in canada some guys have 1 card that u can encode on it and go cashout straight at the bank , the chip bypass all banks

1 card = 80k

This is bullshit. Do you understand how emv works? How can they possibly encode on it??
 

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Thats what im trying to tell.
Especially "edit emv"
:D

I told this NOT ONCE.
GUYS. CHIP = NOT storage of data, but microprogramm with its own OS.
 

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to encode emv right now is imposible. is just urban leyends..but for sure in some years or some time will be posible.. but, something is for sure.. the magnectic stripe days in america are counted...soon they will migrate to chip/emv... and then will be a total fallout for carders...but is just matter of time
 

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I think with MiTM attack is very possible... If you can trick some hacked POS/ATM to just 'retain' the transaction, and the bad guy really execute that 'retained' transaction by the MiTM few minutes/hours later, have chances to work. This way you don't need to discover how chip is calculating and working, but just execute the previous transaction. Need work and study, but I think for a begin maybe is the best attack vector.
 

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Anyone who has watched hacked satellite TV in the late 90's to early 00's will know it's very very possible.

During those HU cards days with direct TV...People did program (write onto) a chip card to watch TV. While direct TV keeps changing their cards and data stream those who wanted to make money from the blackmarket and the so called "TESTERS" were breaking it.

It was a big hobby then. After the P4 card from direct TV things went really deeper underground (NO MORE HACK, PUBLICLY)....DAVE (direct tv) started tracing some hardcore breakers and testers and got a hold on some of them and SUED a lot of people big time! So since then things kinda died down. But we still hear tales of how the hack is there but its not given to any tom, dick and harry anymore.

The point of the story is that: chip-card hacking and programming is not impossible. It's VERY VERY Possible. I knew people who did it...wink, wink.
But it's very advance.... Not for moronic Kids/ppl that populate the scene these days.

"Widespread use" is what killed carding as we know it.
 

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Comparing emv to sattelite TV cards... Just lol.
Their only likeness is storage chip. Thats it.
 

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Same thing as compare EMV chip with mobile phone chips... Totally non-sense. When you open your television for example, you see a bunch of chips same as when you open your motherboard and your microwave .. What's common in TV, motherboard and microwave? They just have chips inside :)))... EMV is one thing, direct TV another, and so on.
 

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But maybe his idea was when sat tv cards came up noone even thought about hacking them. Same happens now. There is atleast COUPLE of ways to overcome emv, but its stands not for "edit emv card".
:)
 

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We can read and encode the track 1 + track 2 ... also we can read the chip .. but to write the chip is impossible ! Why ? Because everytime when a card with chip is used the chip algorithm change to a new one. Who is old here knows what I say.
I`m sure Ninja will confirm what I say. Thanks
 
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