chip skimmer??

goshko said:

You CANNOT copy the chip. You CANNOT write it's contents to another chip. On the magnetic stripe there is information that is the same always. On the chip there is not information, but a program, that works with data. The chip card works like this:
(actually it's more complicated, but short story)
1. The bank sends some data to the chip
2. The chip takes this data and calculates a response to that data and then sends it to the bank
3. The bank decides if the response is valid.
everytime the input data is different, everytime the output data is different, and you can't know the algoritm that converts the input data to output data.

The only thing you can get from the chip is the contents of track1 and track2 and create a card with this data, but a card with only a magnetic stripe! You cannot make a working chip card clone. No one does ... for now, even the creators of this thing

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I think it's possible just to clone the "CHIP" only.
About all the data send receive things, i know about it. like i said before, i dont care about DDA or SDA verification on the chip.

All i need is " CLONE THE CHIP".
I will sure make $$$ from this,...

ps: in my country, there is someone who can make "chip clone". but he was to afraid to come out again because of "something".

nicemr said:

I think it's possible just to clone the "CHIP" only.
About all the data send receive things, i know about it. like i said before, i dont care about DDA or SDA verification on the chip.

All i need is " CLONE THE CHIP".
I will sure make $$$ from this,...

ps: in my country, there is someone who can make "chip clone". but he was to afraid to come out again because of "something".

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Bro the whole world can make money from this.

The problem is not how to make money with cloned chip card, the problem is, CAN you clone chip card?

And the answer that Goshko gave you, tells you exactly why you CAN'T.

nicemr said:

i'm already able to read the data on emv card, using this software

http://nicbedford.co.uk/software/emvcardbrowser/

The Problem is to write it again, or copy the emv card one to another.
I know About the Encryption ( DDA or SDA ), For me as long as anyone out there are able to work with "chip cloning" i'm willing to pay or cooperate with u. ( ESCROW is A MUST ).


All Programer is welcome to PM Me.

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nicemr:To read the chip problably wont be a problem , And I think every read will be diferent because EMV card use a Chip with a king of challenge(which is the combination of +,-,*,/) that has to give an espesific result, in thi case to the banck
Chip inplemented on EMV cards I Asume they are like a Memoy prom or A programmable read-only memory (PROM) with 2 section or particion , Data and memory :One should have the INFO of the card : (track1 track2 Name etc...in HEX format and the oder sencion of the Prom will have the Program:which is a language of the program that interact with the banck,
The most dificult thin in here problably will be to get the code and algoritm of the program inside the Original EMV chip and Create the same Algorit with any Programing langauge or code and to insert it in a EEprom Memory were programers will be able to reprogram as many time as necesary until geting the right code with the right answer, But who knows what will be that answer if we have to also create a Virtual Banck to see the Final result.
I know this is a Cading Foro and Not electronic.Bu next year HAckers will need to go more inside in the electronics stuffs.
Hope we are goint to get that in hour hands as soon as USa move in to EMV next year or BEFORE THAT......

http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/16017/emv-security-how-is-it-possible-that-its-secure

http://www.emvco.com/specifications.aspx?id=155

I Know, about the security and all.

but never will ask for it, if havent seen the proof.

first of all, the guy that i talked about first tested it on a regular smart card ( emv 1 ), like sim ( gsm ) card, succes. then he try on a cable tv card ( many people can do that right ? clone cable tv card ) and last one using a real CC. all worked. ( but the original CC cant be used again after using the clone card on transaction ).

he was to scare to come out cause many of his friends was busted. he IS A BANK employee, go to emv center to study about it, give him trainnee, and so, and so...

the only things he used is, a PC... a smart card reader and writer ( in this case an ACR 38 Smart Card Reader/Writer by ACS ) and the ACS Developer KIT for making the software.

1 month time, he manage to make it, but before i ever get hand on it, he dissapear. he send me all the device, the card he cloned, except the software and the development kit.

so????? any body out there had a clue about this....

thx for all reply,...

skimmer needed

[i need a skimmer , for a partikular bank in nigeria, i guess i need to send a few piktures to you to see, in general , kan you find me one and how mush

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how do i order the bellow, any partikular website or enlightegn me on how i kan get it ,
a smart card reader and writer ( in this case an ACR 38 Smart Card Reader/Writer by ACS ) and the ACS Developer KIT for making the software.

i know some guys in brazil is doing chip clone for a specific bank... And i knew a guy who was busted by Interpol 3 years ago, and his team was the first in the world make chip clone..