How "fake" POS works ?

Atarax1a · Sep 14, 2012

Hi
When somebody changes the original POS from a store with the one that will send me the tracks + pin... what happens then when a costumer pays. Does the bank also get the info, and the transactions is for real? I mean is it like an atm skimmer, skimmer steals info but real bank atm also reads it and person ges his money. So in POS, is the person actually paying to the store ?

I ask this because i want to know, how long i can leave the POS in the store. If the owner is not getting paid he might realize theres something wrong, so ill have to change it before he goes to the bank...

Sorry, i hope my question is clear.

Thanks

rs444 · Sep 14, 2012

Thats a question that we can say LOL on
All the skimmers being vended that send track and pin are all offline POS meaning the merchant wont be getting no money its a dummy store owner will be losing money ofcourse he can find that out

I have not come across no vendor or anyone that has a online POS

skimminglord · Sep 14, 2012

rs444 said:
Thats a question that we can say LOL on
All the skimmers being vended that send track and pin are all offline POS meaning the merchant wont be getting no money its a dummy store owner will be losing money ofcourse he can find that out

I have not come across no vendor or anyone that has a online POS

There is nothing to LOL About, That man does not understand how it works, instead of laughing at his question, you could do better by explaining him. C'mmon we all start from somewhere.

To TS : In Fake POS Or Offline POS no Transaction happens it only to grab track info + Pin. You can ask your vendor to customize what message you want after swiping the Card. There are many ways you can use to make best use of Offline POS to collect information. Hope that helps

Atarax1a · Sep 14, 2012

thanks +1

The thing is google couldnt clearifyme another LOL question... Diference between online and offline, I mean, how can u tell?

The person that "fixed" my POS said he put an internal SIM card on it. So ill ask him when his online. But i need to know asap...
So wireless and wired POS have anything to do with online or offline? If he put SIM card then i guess is offline... and if its wired is online? or how can i tell? I ask this because Im supposed to steal more POS from stores xD So i dont want to steal the wrong one

So when is it online pos and when offline? depends on the model ?

legendz · Sep 14, 2012

if i had online POS i would be trillionaire

Atarax1a · Sep 14, 2012

legendz said:
if i had online POS i would be trillionaire

Im guessing you couldnt answer my question

DoeJoe · Sep 14, 2012

Atarax1a said:
thanks +1

The thing is google couldnt clearifyme another LOL question... Diference between online and offline, I mean, how can u tell?

The person that "fixed" my POS said he put an internal SIM card on it. So ill ask him when his online. But i need to know asap...
So wireless and wired POS have anything to do with online or offline? If he put SIM card then i guess is offline... and if its wired is online? or how can i tell? I ask this because Im supposed to steal more POS from stores xD So i dont want to steal the wrong one

So when is it online pos and when offline? depends on the model ?

online pos mean its connect to processing terminal via internet or phone line !!!!

Offline mean just a dummy POS work like a ONLINE POS printing batch and displaying aproval number ect,.. but it dont transmit any data for processing,... mean store owner wouldnt charge any cent from swiped cards its just for skimming magstrip+pin !!!

regards;

Atarax1a · Sep 14, 2012

DoeJoe said:
online pos mean its connect to processing terminal via internet or phone line !!!!

Offline mean just a dummy POS work like a ONLINE POS printing batch and displaying aproval number ect,.. but it dont transmit any data for processing,... mean store owner wouldnt charge any cent from swiped cards its just for skimming magstrip+pin !!!

regards;

So if owner of the store lets us modify his POS ( open the original machine) Then we would be skimming an online POS ?

sinatra · Sep 15, 2012

Get Offline POS to skim d+p and also get online pos of another bank, on the offline one customize it to print receipt that it's not working / decline, than you may ask your customer to try the 2nd POS which is the legit one so you get the d+p plus payment of customer done.

skimminglord · Sep 15, 2012

Wonderfully explained. +1

Atarax1a · Sep 16, 2012

sinatra said:
Get Offline POS to skim d+p and also get online pos of another bank, on the offline one customize it to print receipt that it's not working / decline, than you may ask your customer to try the 2nd POS which is the legit one so you get the d+p plus payment of customer done.

Wow, so simple... well thoght mate

This way its easier to get store owner onboard! xD

Thxx

zbox · Sep 16, 2012

dum.ps · Sep 16, 2012

The dual pos method Is okay but It can't last long cause the bank can trace the merchant that where It's being skimmed and you're In trouble.
In my opinion offline pos can last much more than online pos.

generalguich · Sep 16, 2012

offline POS only simulate a payment process. online POS MUST be the 1 actually in place at the store. so 2 way of doing this. freestyle or inside job. but you have to be strong technician its an really hard work!

Ninja · Sep 16, 2012

zbox said:
Better too not swipe on second pos from bank, but instead set it to payment accepted and pay cash from your wallet bills that are up to 100 $.

That is good thing.
Coz if youl swipe on real pos after that, its easy to trackdown all cards which was in one place after u will do cashout.

nick25 · Sep 16, 2012

Ninja said:
That is good thing.
Coz if youl swipe on real pos after that, its easy to trackdown all cards which was in one place after u will do cashout.

but what if the customer sees no charges in his statement or account....

Ninja · Sep 16, 2012

Riscs of getting finded because of customer who is care about getting his accounts information about lousy $10 lower thsn getting caught/flagged database because of patterned accounts.

Atarax1a · Sep 16, 2012

Im guessing id put POS for 2 months, then cashout everything within 1 week, and never go back to store.

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Ninja said:
That is good thing.
Coz if youl swipe on real pos after that, its easy to trackdown all cards which was in one place after u will do cashout.

Same as only having online POS, no? I mean how bank will trackdown all cards that were in one place, its the same risk. Having pass the card on offline and then real one, or just using the online.

Ninja · Sep 16, 2012

We're talkig about offline and im quoted part for which my answer was intended.

PlraX · Sep 16, 2012

its not possible edit message of the voucher..like.. say something like ERROR IN CARD or system unavaliable so in that moment customer need to pay in cash.. and owner will not loose money?

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