1.5mil skimming operation busted

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theres a lot people getting caught for skimming at atms...that shit is not worth the risk imo. Most of the cases I read that are making the news are on the east coast
 

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its not greed what caught him , its working in manhattan and unorganized... who would skim in manhattan ? theres like 200 undercovers on every block from 207 st to fucking all the way to china town ....

"theres a lot people getting caught for skimming at atms...that shit is not worth the risk imo. Most of the cases I read that are making the news are on the east coast "


out of 10 people skimming ... 9 are unorganized , 5 do stupidities , 2 get caught , 1 makes news.... its alot more than that involved , get ur facts straight , those u see in news are the mere minimal that are working this and get caught doing really stupid shit... EX: collect today in the afternoon , cash in the night... wtf ?
 

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Its not just the customers discovering the skimmer I would be worried about. I said in another thread dont think the banks are oblivious to people putting skimmers on thier ATMs, a lot of banks DO check their ATMs daily for this particular reason. Its nothing for a manager to walk up to the ATMs when he arrives in the morning to check them out. Those ATMs Specifically at banks get serviced quite frequently as well. Also your retarded to say a 1.5 million skimming operation wasnt well organized bahahahaha. Every beginning has and end, its the alpha and omega: GREED ie. Murphys Law. You gotta know when to quit in the skimming game its not for the faint of heart.

Btw if your gonna tell me to get my facts straight I challenge you to show facts about your theory of 9 out of 10 skimmers getting caught and 9 blah blah....its all baseless and your opinion on the matter thats all. :)

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+1. Most are not organized. One thing is how come no one sets up a secondary camera near the atm watching the customers as they use the skimmer? This way if a customer detects the skimmer, you can go grab it after they leave. Most likely if customer realize it's a skimmer, they will not further touch it and go outside to their cars and call the police.

No need to set up a secondary camera and rifle through hours of footage to see if they detected the skimmer. Your better off setting the skimmer up and watching the atm from a distance ALL day then remove the skimmer and off to the next location. If a person leaves a skimmer st one atm for more than one day they need to slap themselves, seriously.
 
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im from new york theres no way in hell 9 out of 10 doing anything is getting caught.....1.5 million is well organized bro...
 

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Left skim for 1 day?
Lol. Its worst what can happend.

Of course if its not GSM one.
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Thats just my take on it, from what I hear dummies leave their skimmers on there for days at a time. I never skimmed and I probably wont try to attempt it as its a little beyond my scope of knowledge. I guess it all depends on the banks location that determines how long you leave the skimmer on the ATM for? I mean if you put it in small town a few hours probably will not even net you a few D+Ps. I guess even just with a few D+Ps you can still make decent money for your time. Then if you approach a large metropolitan area like New York, San francisco, LA where in a few hours you will probably get nearly 100 D+ps in that time frame, but at the same time if your in an area so busy your going to have to put the skimmer on when theres nobody using the ATM which would probably be in the middle of the night. Taking it off probably doesnt matter I mean I doubt a witness is going to tackle you for tampering with the ATM.....So many variables involved with it, if you have the right method, right place you could make some great $, just follow the #1 rule in the carding world: Dont get GREEDY.

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Left skim for 1 day?
Lol. Its worst what can happend.

Of course if its not GSM one.
:)

haha yeah your right.....

Dont a lot of ATMs have some sort of GSM detection device on them? At least thats what I heard....Yes wireless is always the way to go, just pray that you get a good amount of D+Ps to cover your 3k+ investment into the skimmer if it gets discovered LOL
 

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because they managed 1.5 mil it dont mean they are organized , it just means they collected a few hundred pcs from good spots and cashed in same areas , and collecting in downtown manhattan is definitly good spot , and cashing in same areas are even better. average new yorker from manhattan has anywhere from 500 to 10k available in debit card , and withdraw limit are nothing like uk trash that blocks after 100 ... so as for calling 1.5 mill organized i dont really think it is... i call em lucky for not being catched before. Those are my two cents in the can.
 

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Average debit card ATM withdraws in the states are $500 a day. What is the definition of organized? Thats what it ultimately comes down to. Just because something is "organized" doesnt mean its foolproof. Tell that to the late John Gotti and the other mobsters that were very well organized yet they still fell victim because the people trying to catch them ultimately had more and better resources like snitches. All it takes to bring down a solid "organization" is one snitch. IMO being organized is having multiple people work together in a matter of sophistication. Theres no way 1 guy skimmed 1.5 million in manhattan alone. I dont have any facts to this but I am willing to bet that most carders/skimmers only dream of touching 1.5 million in their operation, it clearly has to be organized but yeah everyone has an opinion on the subject, to each his own :)
 

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As to organization im not speaking about the amount of money involved , organization can be from anywhere to few k's to few mills... Ofcourse you need several people in your team , but by organization i say , collecting , collecting , collecting and when u have 6k pcs saved or even more you decide a day to c/o your work lets say 9 months after u did your last collect and im sure 6k pcs from u.s will give you anywhere from 2mm to even more , and there is very little % you will get caught , there will be almost no leads to a solid case. As to these people the 1.5 mil ... these were cashed not in one day but possibly in few months working and cashing daily , this is why they catch up to them , ***they know where to look*** and are waiting patiently to you do again , these people were collecting today , and cashing out two days later at different spots , this is why they manage to catch them , this is why i call them unorganized , and working in ny i call them even more unorganized , specially in manhattan.
 

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Decent GSM skims send sms and connect with base once /20 or /30 minutes.
So its very hard to detect gsm signal, coz its not constant.
 

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By the way, does anyone know what's the best way to PayPal a skimmer on an atm that's outside in the winter time? It's like a drive thru atm. I've used double sided tape but, it's like it hardens up due to the cold and becomes less secure on the atm. I'm thinking about just gluing it, then ripping it off 6 hours later.

Put some glue BEFORE taping it.
This way it will goes out more easy and PayPal little better.
 

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manhattan nypd r very sophisticated they dont even need the feds or secret service...70% of all arrest of fraud(cc,checks,atm,etc) in new york come out of manhattan...if u take over 500k u r very well organize trust im from this city..and i dont fuck with it anymore..and i suggest my fellow carders should do the same...#justsayin
 
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