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Hey,

I've started travelling and living in different countries and different hotels wich are carded. I'm thinking about security, what is best, what to do and what to say if you get caught.

1) Hotels.
I think that if you're staying in USA hotel, better to do it with EU cc, because chargebacks can't come so fast and money/statemenet mark will appear only days after ? I'm right or no ?

Maibye to do fake docs. for stayin there ? But if cops come u will get charges for fake docs + cc fraud ?

I've stayed in USA hotels for long time and never had problems, I book hotel and they never asked me for my ID(to scan, copy or write any infp) just to check if my name is same as on reservation. But they always take cc number or just swipe. Next day u give them room key and leave.. BUT ...
In Europe i booked hotel for 1day, came there and they ask for ID, i gaved and they scanned it, also tooked scan of cc and write my cc number, after i came into my room, they called me and told , sorry bro ur cc doesnt work, can you pay by cash ? I told wtf ? They said me, in this country we swipe ur cards at once u came in to check if there's money for room, but in USA they swipe only when u leave and if fail they swipe cc from wich u booked, so no problem. But what to do in europe ?
I've ordered one hotel, and wrote them that i have my friend coming to you, so i want you to charge my card for all his extras and room, they asked authorization form and cc copy, ok no problem i done cc copy but again when i came they tooked my cc and id scan. And ONE MORE PROBLEM, when u use extras, at the end of stay when check-out, they could swipe same card from booking to pay extras uve taked AND WHAT WILL BE IF CC DEAD ? OR THEY GET REASON ON HOLD OR CALL BANK ? U get fucked up i think ... or u must pay ur own cash for sure :DD but maibye eu cc dont die if u stay for 1week and u book with same cc and after 7days u try to pay for extras ? i dont know damnn....

So maibye it's'best way like this:
1) Do fake ID for your own
2) Book room and ask them to charge for example: if room costs 1k euro, then to swipe 1.5k euro(tell them that 1k for room and 500euru for my guest for his extras?)
3) Write dump and make design on plastic by ur own fake id info

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Askin this info cause im worrying when staying on hotel, cause every minute you can expect cops and so on, cause anytime cc hodler could do call to hotel and so on.
Please tell from your own expierence, what to do and how to be safe for sure ? :)


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2) Flights

Same question. Do fake docs or no ? Is it better to book flights 1-2weeks before or 1-days before ? Its not so hard to get out, u just put adv on any local city adv lists that sell tickets for cheaper price, and u told them that u buy from him, give his email etc. :) i think so ... :) tell me ur expierence on this and so on :) Thanks
 
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For flights is safer as long as they cant prove you booked it yourself
 

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Who can tell about hotels ? who have good experience good info and so on.
 

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read the web-site rules carefully where it says if they charge your cards full amount upfront & if they require credit card identification, mostly they don't if they ask for a credit card at the hotel its for the guarantee deposit in case you use any extra service in the hotel, that deposit is somewhere between 200-500 euro's but they will return the money if you don't use any extra service like minibars, wireless etc.. which are not included in the payment you made with the CC online. This deposit can be made either by any card of yours or by Cash if you don't like your card to be swiped...

I think it's best you use third party booking, so the payment won't be directly settled with the hotel in case of any early charge backs.
 

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I once booked with a 3rd party my hotel reservation got canceled had to pay cash for hotel i told them it was a problem with the travel agent and i take the concern up with them in my return to my home country.
 

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yesterday i checked out from one hotel in europe, was very worried about extras. I was stayin in baltic country using Ireland cc, i signed authorization form to charge cc before checkin and marked that i would like to request to charge all extras from my credit card for my guest. They accepted it. I staid there for 4nights, at the day of checkout i was praying to god that card will not be blocked, cause i took extras for 800euro (minibars, private spa room, expensive dinners in restaurant etc.) and when i came to reception, they entered his cc numb and whola! cc worked and everything fine. But how to use extras without worries ? Or its not possible ? Cause i know if u ask to charge cc before checkin its good, cause no problems at the end, but still owner can call any minute to hotel and cal cops.
How many days u think its safiest to stay ? Its kinda stupid question, as we know that owner can call any minute, but as ur opinion :) I think u need to change hotel every 2days, what about you ?



About tickets, what way to book them is best ? Via expedias, orbitz etc. or direct from airline webpage ?
 

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Veeker, what site did you use to book hotel for them to charge your extras online?
 

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yesterday i checked out from one hotel in europe, was very worried about extras. I was stayin in baltic country using Ireland cc, i signed authorization form to charge cc before checkin and marked that i would like to request to charge all extras from my credit card for my guest. They accepted it. I staid there for 4nights, at the day of checkout i was praying to god that card will not be blocked, cause i took extras for 800euro (minibars, private spa room, expensive dinners in restaurant etc.) and when i came to reception, they entered his cc numb and whola! cc worked and everything fine. But how to use extras without worries ? Or its not possible ? Cause i know if u ask to charge cc before checkin its good, cause no problems at the end, but still owner can call any minute to hotel and cal cops.
How many days u think its safiest to stay ? Its kinda stupid question, as we know that owner can call any minute, but as ur opinion :) I think u need to change hotel every 2days, what about you ?



About tickets, what way to book them is best ? Via expedias, orbitz etc. or direct from airline webpage ?
better to stay only 1 night at a time to stay safe. For tickets yes the big sites like expedia, orbitz, vayama, etc are better then ailines since they are third party
 

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Veeker, what site did you use to book hotel for them to charge your extras online?

You just need to contact hotel you've booked and ask them authorization form to sign in. There will be options: for all charges, for room, for guarantor etc. and you mark for all charges. btw in one hotel when i stayed with my gf i taked ring for her wich cost 6k euro, as long as i knew that was eu credit platinum i didnt worried much about limits.

Also is there any site that charges your cc for room at once ? Cause i'm walways need to order cc scans, sign authorisation forms etc. It take time and cash...

Abt tickets, what way to do them is best ? Cause last days i get so many cancels from cheaptickets, expedia, orbitz.. I use enroll, socks same city, diff bill and shipp, nonvbv bins. Earlier i was very successfull when i was takin tickets for 2 passengers, cc owner and myself, almost always success, maibye it will be good tipo for those who starting this shit .. :) Is it big difference between buyin tickets with eu / usa cc ? cause eu costs much and hard to know balance, but usa i think goes down quickly.;


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I'm askin so much shit cause i need to travel to diff countries every month, sometimes 2-3times per month, so i want to do my travel and stay good enough with comfort and security.
 

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in country flights safe, hotel always to risk for me to think about do. end of story is if cc get chargeback u done no matter what excuse u may dream of. keep in mind i think if u USA when fly to diff country most time u need scan passport for get on flight, which is very hard for fake well and if u use real one they only need look thru plane roster to see who flew on diff name then bill and u go to prison. be smart.

europe i no from personal expirience better since only time passport check EU country is going from EU country to non eu.
 

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Veeker, send me a pm with your icq we can discuss more about this
 

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in country flights safe, hotel always to risk for me to think about do. end of story is if cc get chargeback u done no matter what excuse u may dream of. keep in mind i think if u USA when fly to diff country most time u need scan passport for get on flight, which is very hard for fake well and if u use real one they only need look thru plane roster to see who flew on diff name then bill and u go to prison. be smart.

europe i no from personal expirience better since only time passport check EU country is going from EU country to non eu.

I think its not big crime to go to jail. My mates was at police offices dozen of times for this. As soemone told in this thread, noone will fuck u up till they cant proove that u done this, same as in all kind of biz like that. I'm always try to take longer but safer way, every trip where im staying i go to internet cafe, create fake advertisments on local web pages with text that im workin at travel agency and i can get u 20% cheaper tickets, from diff vpn i create mails from where i talk with that ""seller"" and talking for even 5 dif persons about different kind of flights and so on, payment done not via lr, not via wire for sure, cause they can ask acc number and so on..... but i told that i give cash to seller in hands, as im new in country i dont know who is he and who can he be and so on ... long story .... So always if theres any problem at any airport, they saying me "big excuses sir, dont trust that scammers" and i told them "fuckin assholes ive planned my trip for months and now i need to flight with diff flight wich is on next day and to stay in hotel one more day its disguisting!! :D:D:D
Also one time i had big probs in hotel, owner called there and told everything, milf from reception comed to my room with security and told that i need to pay by cash, i showed them advertisment on internet i told that i paid cash etc. etc. i show them my mail wheres chat history with seller and told that i will not pay 2x FOR SURE and its ur problem that ur security is weak and some kids can pay for rooms ....
IF YOURE SMART YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE SITUATION BETTER FOR YOU...
 

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I think its not big crime to go to jail. My mates was at police offices dozen of times for this. As soemone told in this thread, noone will fuck u up till they cant proove that u done this, same as in all kind of biz like that. I'm always try to take longer but safer way, every trip where im staying i go to internet cafe, create fake advertisments on local web pages with text that im workin at travel agency and i can get u 20% cheaper tickets, from diff vpn i create mails from where i talk with that ""seller"" and talking for even 5 dif persons about different kind of flights and so on, payment done not via lr, not via wire for sure, cause they can ask acc number and so on..... but i told that i give cash to seller in hands, as im new in country i dont know who is he and who can he be and so on ... long story .... So always if theres any problem at any airport, they saying me "big excuses sir, dont trust that scammers" and i told them "fuckin assholes ive planned my trip for months and now i need to flight with diff flight wich is on next day and to stay in hotel one more day its disguisting!! :D:D:D
Also one time i had big probs in hotel, owner called there and told everything, milf from reception comed to my room with security and told that i need to pay by cash, i showed them advertisment on internet i told that i paid cash etc. etc. i show them my mail wheres chat history with seller and told that i will not pay 2x FOR SURE and its ur problem that ur security is weak and some kids can pay for rooms ....
IF YOURE SMART YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE SITUATION BETTER FOR YOU...
Good stuff this pretty much way to go, unless police already have know of you and you want to keep low profile
 

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Sorry people but I just had a good laugh reading what you post. My Record High was in 3days 42.000 Euro YES 42K paid with 3cc. 1st thing you have to know what bins to choose. you have to know how to talk with the reservations department.
You need a checker a good checker that checks cc without charge mode :)
Other thing is if you in EU use non EU bins last longer. If not in EU use EU bins. Buy cards with high balance.
Every hotel in EU will take a scan of you ID not necessarily CC if you know how to book a hotel then you wont be asked for it :)
Flights its whatever you can use your doc without a problem.
If you get in problems in some hotels in EU all depends in what country. More eastern Europe you go more shit will happen to you.
If you got more question just PM me and be glad to help you.

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PS WORK ON PRE-AUTH BASIS :) OR BOOK FOR 10DAYS N CHECK OUT AFTER 9 LOL

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PS/PS THIS THING WITH INTERNET SMART THING WITH THE ADVERT ETC BUT REMEMBER IF YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND YOU DONT PAY THEY CAN CALL THE POLICE AND THATS IT AS HOTELS DONT REALLY TRUST PEOPLE THAT WILL PAY LATER WITH CASH BUT SCAMMED THEM. READ WHAT I POSTED AND IF YOU NEED MORE INFO PM ME :)
 
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