Instore Tut: Chargeback

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My experience regarding chargebacks is that when instore carding all the merchants I used well 90%never had a problem with it. As days after they will or wont depends on country get a letter from their pos provider to send a receipt as well as some other stuff its all written in a letter. If they fallow those steps no charge back.
Regarding cvv carding booking flight hotels etc always a charge back happens.Sometimes its instant sometimes takes longer. International banking law says that the bank got 60 days to make a claim after that period money stays with merchant but that bearly happens.
 
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My experience regarding chargebacks is that when instore carding all the merchants I used well 90%never had a problem with it. As days after they will or wont depends on country get a letter from their pos provider to send a receipt as well as some other stuff its all written in a letter. If they fallow those steps no charge back.
Regarding cvv carding booking flight hotels etc always a charge back happens.Sometimes its instant sometimes takes longer. International banking law says that the bank got 60 days to make a claim after that period money stays with merchant but that bearly happens.

If merchants don't have any problems with them then instoring should be easier than the state it is in right now.

If they had no problems with it, carding would be much easier :\

Some just know how to handle it and what to say, others don't. Banks use tricky tactics to fuck you over on this. If you tell them company X is offering me POS at a much better %, they won't bother you for problems concerning chargeback as long as your location is worth them having.
 

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i don't understand why you have to turn around and make it hard for you, just go to the store talk with the store owner, give him share from the dump, make an agreement and thats it, thats what i always have done.
 

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i don't understand why you have to turn around and make it hard for you, just go to the store talk with the store owner, give him share from the dump, make an agreement and thats it, thats what i always have done.

I don't want to deal with them turning me in or them being burned etc... They also restrict you about the amount. It feels much easier if they think you're a legit customer. Anyways, I haven't had any luck dealing straight with merchants, maybe if you could keep a steady amount and keep finding new ones to replace burned ones it can loop really well.
 

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I don't want to deal with them turning me in or them being burned etc... They also restrict you about the amount. It feels much easier if they think you're a legit customer. Anyways, I haven't had any luck dealing straight with merchants, maybe if you could keep a steady amount and keep finding new ones to replace burned ones it can loop really well.
Yeah I never liked the idea and wouldnt even bother with this, this whole game is about deception anyways.

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what is more interesting to research is what the merchants actually do after a chargeback, as in if they file report with local police or not, if they try to look back at their security cameras, if they warn the employees to look out in case you come back etc...
I would think with large retail chains their procedures would be rather standardized.
 
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Yea well everyone has his own way, i used to deal with super night clubs owners and some restaurants and some phone shops and small shops, and they are actually closed friends so you know they won't stab you in back and protect you if something happened, and i used to visit each one every 1 or 2 months , i used to extend time between the shoots to reduce risks
 

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Yea well everyone has his own way, i used to deal with super night clubs owners and some restaurants and some phone shops and small shops, and they are actually closed friends so you know they won't stab you in back and protect you if something happened, and i used to visit each one every 1 or 2 months , i used to extend time between the shoots to reduce risks

Well... I have had bad experience with a merchant letting me pass. I would go in every day to pass 400$ 2 times, he would give me 250$ cash in return for each swipe. He always used to bring the POS to a blind spot of the camera so he didnt get into shit.

One day he told me just swipe in front of the camera, I told him to bring it back he was like no no. :mad:

Other times I went to mechanics, taxi drivers to pass 200-500$, but it wasn't worth the time.
 

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Well... I have had bad experience with a merchant letting me pass. I would go in every day to pass 400$ 2 times, he would give me 250$ cash in return for each swipe. He always used to bring the POS to a blind spot of the camera so he didnt get into shit.

One day he told me just swipe in front of the camera, I told him to bring it back he was like no no. :mad:

Other times I went to mechanics, taxi drivers to pass 200-500$, but it wasn't worth the time.
Interesting ways mind you, especially with the merchant ending up doubling as the fence
 
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