How to cash Dumps! Own merchant or ? HELP

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Hi fellow carders,

New in this dumps business, i know online carding good an my income from there but i started think theres bigger money in real carding. In dumps section i see people earn good by using dumps. I want to ask, whats best to cashout dumps ? and whats chargeback ratio in dumps ? it does make %100 chargeback to store owner ? If we swipe dumps in our own shop's POS or a friend's shop , can't we make money ? Is the only way buying stuffs and selling them ?

Experienceds , let me know about this.

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Depends, there are pros and cons for both sides:

Insider Swipping: Using your friend's POS or knowing cashier in store.

Pro:
- Easy to swipe
- Can come back as much as you want
- Steady income

Con:
- If anything happens, he can set you up.
- Low amounts (most of the time)
- Can't really live off striking at insiders

Random: Go to random shops with HQ plastic.

Pro:
- Unlimited swipe amount as long as dump works.
- No wasted cut for insider
- Less wasted % of amount striked for (I hardly know any insider that gives more than 50%)

Con:
- Risky when you have a car loaded with hot stuff.
- "Too much work" for lazy people
- Social Engineering required (shouldn't really be a con if you're good at it)
 

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Thanks for detailed answers and ur time.

But The real question is ; let say We swipe 40 dumps at our friend shop or at own shop. 1 month later our bank will not come with 40 different chargebacks and ask for refund from store owner ?

On online carding, chargeback realize %100 everytime, just dont know whats process for dumps.
 

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Online and instore are 2 different ball games completely bro. As long as Merchant followed procedures to spot fake credit card and has enough evidence (which includes ID checking and CC), he can prevent a chargeback to occur.

Let's say you have an insider who is willing to let you swipe but is not sure about getting the full money. What he can do is:

1. Photocopy ur fake IDs and ur CC front and back and provide proof when the CC company calls (youll need matching plastic).

2. Charge you 2-3x each time and let you come less times. That way he covers his losses. For example, I had an insider that let me strike 5 cartons of cigarettes but instead, charged me 3x the normal price for each and only let me come once a week. So althought he doesnt get all the money, when he does he covers his loss of 2-3 next times. Smart merchants constantly get machine back and get profit doing this :)

Hope I helped.

PS: It wouldn't make sense if merchant doesn't get money because credit card companies make easily counterfeitable cards. Retarded merchants just say ohhh noo and just say ok like dumbasses. Smart ones cover their asses and provide proof of following all guidelines for verification.
 
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    N1 here who love to share value informations.

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Thanks again. Basically I und that preventing cb methods. I have a deal with a store owner who swipe over 200-300 normal customers weekly. I want swipe on their pos 20-25k $ monthly. 30 % them - 70% me shares money if we start biz together. I just dont want do stupid something which will return all as chargeback. Do you have any advise for me? using Debit cards instead of credits ? If you say, make fake id for each cc and give scan to store owner, its hell long job for big business.

thanks in advance.
 

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dont know about USA but you dont need a pin if you swipe in EU ( atleast i never had it cause all you need is a signature ) i prefer to swipe in random shops cause that way you wount get any troubles for your friend who have shop. I think after 1 mounth of this swiping your friends store will have some problems. Just make some realy good looking plastic and you are good to go to any shop for goods :) just make sure you dont look like a bom or somekind of junkie.
 

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well actually im from europe (netherlands) and the few times i used a real creditcard i had to use a pin code :s
 

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well actually im from europe (netherlands) and the few times i used a real creditcard i had to use a pin code :s

Was that credit card a 201/chip card? Iam using 101 credit cards without PIN code in Norway. At some POS the cashier needs to change from pin to signature on the POS. And in some pos I need to press F1 on the pos keyboard to switch from PIN to signature. Most pos will automatic use signature instead of PIN.
 
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