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ducati

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Just curious, Does anybody know anything about the process and timeframes for going after a small >$500 online purchase?

Obviously it would most likely begin with the Cardholder noticing the charges, filing a chargeback, and then what? Anything?

What do ya'll know about how long this takes, how far do they go with it, who investigates (in US), etc.
 

livethebeat

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I honestly have never heard of a story of anyone being arrested for carding anything online before because an investigation would probably cost more than the loss.
 

ducati

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That's What I was thinking... Never have seen it/read about it in the news... thats kinda why I was curious about it.

The merchant just eats it and that's that, I guess?
 

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That's What I was thinking... Never have seen it/read about it in the news... thats kinda why I was curious about it.

The merchant just eats it and that's that, I guess?

also, bad publicity for the merchant, which they will do anything to avoid.
 

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Imagine that you card an iPad.

Then, from 500 to 1k USD are "lost"

When they ask for investigation, 1000 different cases from different places have been told to be investigated as well.

When they want to investigate that small 500USD, then a 50k transfer is hit, and they follow that, and classify the small 500USD.

It is not THE EXACT PROCCESS, but it is logical. Police cant persecute/prosecute/follow 10k carders around a country.

Police wont follow with the same intensity, a simple "one person who is living in the street" murder, than a person who is killing women all around the USA, and have already killed 50.

Intensity of search is proportional to the intensity of the crime. I could even write a "Crime Following Formula" (lol)

So the Police answer is simple: do more SECURE shops, to prevent fraud. That's it. They cant follow a clue from USA to Panama-Mexico-Israel-Germany-UK-India-China-(HOME). So the maximum thing you can get is your favourite carding shop, to be "a bit more secured", but never totally secure, as it will always be exposed to carding/fraud.

As someone said, police has got more important things to do, than just focusing on fraud.

So, be careful, use security for yourself, and exploit shop's security :D

Ciao,
Jeferi

PS: Dont paranoid, if you do everything well, you wont be caught. I used to be too paranoid when I first started carding: But it does not worth getting paranoid, It does worth getting money
 

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Hmm, I have carded products on the + of over $10,000 online.

Lately I have been getting email from the guy saying this


Hey sir , we have a big problem . You need to pay for these _______ bank took all our money and company wants 2 call the police says your ______ are stolen . can you please call me asap .



what do you guys think
 

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LE doesn't bother with orders less than 500$ to begin with. Even with that much of money, it is very unlikely they start an investigation. It's just not worth it. They would lose more (tax) money than the profit gained by the carder. However, if a lot of fraud is noticed in one particular BIN or region, then the chances go up.
There is no Interpol for cyber crime.... yet, so enjoy while it lasts. New rules are to be applied soon. However, keep this is in mind : If you live in France lets say, don't fuck with the french people, intead try to scam people of another country which France's LE doesn't get along well with, maybe Australia. Just an example, but you get the point I hope.
Use drops, reship 1-2 times, cracked wifi, no CCTV, offshore logless VPN ( this is relative), proxy chain, new emails, plugins disabled, card in VMWare, encrypt anything and you are safe :)

Just me 2 cents on it.
 

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Hey sir , we have a big problem . You need to pay for these _______ bank took all our money and company wants 2 call the police says your ______ are stolen . can you please call me asap .


spam think is?
 

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Aaaawwww what an innocent email from a small shop owner :( ... he even mailed the carder. Well I once carded something that a friend needed and he had the balls to receive it directly at his home. They mailed him 5months later to pay for the $499 engraved jewellery. He refuses to pay the threaten to put it on his credit report. The mistake was that it was shipped with his real name :( ... but nothing happened eventually though
 

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i used a friends house once 10k worth of delivered goods from multiple shops no feds ever turned up its been a good 8 months
 

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Jimsta country is different. Your country still almost a virgin compared to USA that has been raped and continually rapped
 

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our item shipped last Thursday by Australia Express Post with tracking no: 48161232****. It shows you need to come to post office to pick up:

Tracking details
Date/Time Activity Location
23/05/11 08:12 Awaiting Collection from Post Office
23/05/11 08:10 Transferred to LPO
23/05/11 06:53 Attempted Delivery - No one in attendance
23/05/11 02:35 Onboard with driver
19/05/11 13:37 Lodged by customer

Then can you please confirm you got that item on ebay and paypal because your payment is stilling on hold in my paypal account, so I can not take my money. Thank for your business!

This shows the stupidity of some people here
 
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