GroundZero Stupid RIPPER icq:612026603

http://carder.market/member.php?u=12146
icq : 612026603

Profile link above


he has my $110 share and refuses to send them to me, but trying to force me to continue supplying him cards
and telling me he will only send my share, if i want to continue working with the RIPPER

http://carder.market/member.php?u=12146 on this thread link he wrote


CashOut service for Swedish cards issued from "Handelsbanken" I will only work with suppliers who has a big base.
Results varies depending on the bin. Maximum amount per card $3400.

Send PM with ICQ details for more information.

I contacted him and told him i had cards from Handelsbanken

Logs below



GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 6:10 PM):
GroundZero (612026603) has added you
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 6:13 PM):
hey
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 6:47 PM):
hi
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:12 PM):
u here?
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:13 PM):
ye
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:19 PM):
so u can cashout, how fast can u cashout?
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:19 PM):
takes a day and u have money next day
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:20 PM):
any sex is good?
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:22 PM):
?
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:24 PM):
male only
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:24 PM):
actually female works too, but I'll only be able to cash about 800$ with those
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:25 PM):
ok lets start with female
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:28 PM):
nAME: Sxxxxxx
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:29 PM):
Tel. +46xxxx Address Skxxxxxx
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:30 PM):
4263xxxxx
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:30 PM):
0x xx
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:31 PM):
CVV2: xxx
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:34 PM):
wait
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:34 PM):
is that handelsbanken?
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:34 PM):
YES
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:34 PM):
427723
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:34 PM):
check if u have this bin first
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:37 PM):
don't have that
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:37 PM):
ok wait a sec im a bit busy
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 7:37 PM):
give me like 20min
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 7:37 PM):
k
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:18 PM):
write to me when ur online
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:27 PM):
got 369$ cashed out so far
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:27 PM):
cant do much more since its a girl
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 8:44 PM):
hi, i am here now
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 8:44 PM):
u here?
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:44 PM):
ye
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:44 PM):
got my message
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 8:45 PM):
said u had cashed just 369
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:45 PM):
ye
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:45 PM):
gotta wait til they transfer to my bank acc
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 8:45 PM):
so i get my share 2moorow?
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:46 PM):
yeah or the day after, depending how fastt they transfer the money
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 8:46 PM):
should i send u another now?
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:47 PM):
no wait
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:49 PM):
how many of that bin do u have?
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 8:50 PM):
4
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:51 PM):
ok u had some other bin to ye?
sirac ‎(10/17/2010 8:51 PM):
but i can get more, if i get my share, also i am sure i will get ur other bin 2morrow, cos i have a new big base, i haven't decrypted yet
GroundZero ‎(10/17/2010 8:51 PM):
ok
GroundZero ‎(2:18 PM):
it went through
GroundZero ‎(2:18 PM):
give me the other ones u want cashed too

GroundZero ‎(2:21 PM):
from this one card you've made about 100$
sirac ‎(2:21 PM):
what was my % share suppose to be??
GroundZero ‎(2:22 PM):
30
GroundZero ‎(2:23 PM):
30%
sirac ‎(2:44 PM):
ok, that will be $110
sirac ‎(2:44 PM):
i send u another now
sirac ‎(2:45 PM):
??
GroundZero ‎(2:45 PM):
yes
sirac ‎(2:50 PM):
Mrs Bxxxx xxxx Tel. 46-13-xxxxx
sirac ‎(2:51 PM):
426xxxxxxxx
sirac ‎(2:52 PM):
04/ 20xx
sirac ‎(2:52 PM):
3xx
sirac ‎(3:03 PM):
got?
GroundZero ‎(3:04 PM):
no
GroundZero ‎(3:04 PM):
give me cvv2 and expdate
sirac ‎(3:04 PM):
4263xxxxx

04/xx
3xx
sirac ‎(3:05 PM):
got?
GroundZero ‎(3:05 PM):
ye
GroundZero ‎(3:29 PM):
card is dead
sirac ‎(4:22 PM):
Hi
GroundZero ‎(4:23 PM):
card was dead
sirac ‎(4:23 PM):
wait, i check
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
card is valid
GroundZero ‎(4:31 PM):
no its not
GroundZero ‎(4:31 PM):
or it has very low funds
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
yes it is
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
may have low funds
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
but not dead
GroundZero ‎(4:31 PM):
it might be valid but it doesnt have enough funds to do cashout
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
how much did u try?
GroundZero ‎(4:32 PM):
350$
GroundZero ‎(4:32 PM):
and 200$
GroundZero ‎(4:32 PM):
im not doing lower
GroundZero ‎(4:32 PM):
not worth it
sirac ‎(4:32 PM):
yeah, but card was never and still not dead
sirac ‎(4:33 PM):
i send u another now
GroundZero ‎(4:33 PM):
ok
GroundZero ‎(4:33 PM):
have u got any of that good bin i linked u?
sirac ‎(4:36 PM):
42638XXXXXXXXXX
sirac ‎(4:36 PM):
cvv2: 888
GroundZero ‎(4:38 PM):
name etc
GroundZero ‎(4:38 PM):
adress : XXXXXXXX
sirac ‎(4:38 PM):
got?
GroundZero ‎(4:39 PM):
ye
GroundZero ‎(4:40 PM):
we used that one i think
sirac ‎(4:40 PM):
no we didn't
sirac ‎(4:40 PM):
this what we used
sirac ‎(4:41 PM):
for the $369
GroundZero ‎(4:41 PM):
that one we used too
GroundZero ‎(4:41 PM):
ok
GroundZero ‎(4:41 PM):
i think u have very similar cards to gzero
sirac ‎(4:42 PM):
i got my own bases of cvv and dumps
GroundZero ‎(4:42 PM):
look
GroundZero ‎(4:43 PM):
he gave me that card the 17th october
GroundZero ‎(4:43 PM):
ive already cashed it
sirac ‎(4:44 PM):
oh, then it seems user, used the card in my fake webshop, like his
GroundZero ‎(4:44 PM):
ok
sirac ‎(4:44 PM):
w8

sirac ‎(4:45 PM):
used any with this name? Mr Kxxx
GroundZero ‎(4:45 PM):
nope
sirac ‎(4:47 PM):
this is male, so hpefully can cashout bigger amounts
sirac ‎(4:47 PM):
Name Mr Kxxx Öxxx Tel. +46xxxx , +46xxxxxx (mobile)
Address xxxxx

xxxxx

cvv2 :3xx

GroundZero ‎(5:20 PM):
stop logging out all the time
GroundZero ‎(5:20 PM):
nvm
GroundZero ‎(5:22 PM):
not enough funds

sirac ‎(5:35 PM):
i sent u the cvv2
GroundZero ‎(5:35 PM):
ye
GroundZero ‎(5:35 PM):
not enough funds
sirac ‎(5:35 PM):
just send me my $110
GroundZero ‎(5:36 PM):
you really think im gona waste my time on one card?
GroundZero ‎(5:36 PM):
It said clearly im only looking for people with big bases
GroundZero ‎(5:36 PM):
not one cashout only
sirac ‎(5:37 PM):
yeah, but u really think i am going to be sending my cards and be getting " not enough " balance!
sirac ‎(5:37 PM):
i have bases, but not planning to be sending every cc with response of " not enough balance"
GroundZero ‎(5:37 PM):
dude
sirac ‎(5:38 PM):
i have sent u 3, today already
GroundZero ‎(5:38 PM):
check the cards on 300$ on ur own
sirac ‎(5:38 PM):
1, u said not much balance
GroundZero ‎(5:38 PM):
and u can see im not lying
GroundZero ‎(5:38 PM):
ask gzero if u think im lying
sirac ‎(5:38 PM):
i am not saying u are lying
GroundZero ‎(5:38 PM):
ive been doing cashouts with him for a long itme
GroundZero ‎(5:38 PM):
no but I cant do much about the balance, can i?
GroundZero ‎(5:39 PM):
its not my fault they are poor
sirac ‎(5:39 PM):
what i am saying is that i can't keep pasting my cards, maybe when i get ur specific bin, then i can send you that
sirac ‎(5:39 PM):
the one u said has big balance
GroundZero ‎(5:39 PM):
dont u have more of this bin?
sirac ‎(5:39 PM):
i do
sirac ‎(5:40 PM):
but i can't keep sending them!
GroundZero ‎(5:40 PM):
and whys that
sirac ‎(5:40 PM):
i have sent 4 already, one managed to do $369, which i am getting a shitty $110
sirac ‎(5:40 PM):
2 others did low balance
GroundZero ‎(5:40 PM):
man
sirac ‎(5:41 PM):
so i can't keep sending those bins, cos chances are that it will be "low balance" too
GroundZero ‎(5:41 PM):
I cant controll the balance, so be fucking happy ur atleast getting something. You would only have gotten like 2$ if u sold the card anyway, so u WON money on it.
GroundZero ‎(5:41 PM):
u havent lost anything.
sirac ‎(5:41 PM):
no !
sirac ‎(5:41 PM):
i don't sell cvv!
GroundZero ‎(5:41 PM):
well if u dont wanna continue its not my problem
sirac ‎(5:41 PM):
2ndly sweden cvv is never $2!
sirac ‎(5:42 PM):
3rdly, i only seek cashiers and i never sell cvv bot even if it is for $50
GroundZero ‎(5:42 PM):
so I guess we stop here?
sirac ‎(5:42 PM):
i will continue, when i get youur "bin"
sirac ‎(5:43 PM):
427723
sirac ‎(5:43 PM):
i saw that the 427723 is a biz bin
GroundZero ‎(5:43 PM):
why not give me the rest of the ones of this bin and I'll check them too?
GroundZero ‎(5:43 PM):
yes
sirac ‎(5:43 PM):
so yes it will have more cash like the 3k
GroundZero ‎(5:44 PM):
most handelsbanken biz bins works but they are very rare
sirac ‎(5:44 PM):
the ones i have been sending are just normal classic
GroundZero ‎(5:44 PM):
yeah but u can only get about 3k+ per card
sirac ‎(5:44 PM):
so chances they wil have low balances
GroundZero ‎(5:44 PM):
it doesnt matter, classic cards can have alot money too
sirac ‎(5:44 PM):
so i can't keep sending them
sirac ‎(5:44 PM):
nah, biz always has more than classic
GroundZero ‎(5:44 PM):
then what are u gona save them for?
sirac ‎(5:45 PM):
classic is not even close to what biz has
GroundZero ‎(5:45 PM):
dude
sirac ‎(5:45 PM):
there is someone that says he can do wu sweden
GroundZero ‎(5:45 PM):
classic is what ALL regular people use in sweden
GroundZero ‎(5:45 PM):
there isnt any gold/platinum etc

GroundZero ‎(5:51 PM):
man, im not gona wait til u have a business bin, you should have read the rules, im only working with people with big bases, so we either continue or im out
GroundZero ‎(5:51 PM):
out of the $110 if id send them through wu you'd only be left alone with like 80
sirac ‎(5:51 PM):
man i am not going to be keep sending u my cc and be geting " not enough balnce"
sirac ‎(5:52 PM):
the fact i have a big basde, does not mean i will keep sending
GroundZero ‎(5:52 PM):
then send the ones u have whats the problem? some of them must have the balance for it
sirac ‎(5:52 PM):
no!!
sirac ‎(5:52 PM):
cos i have sent 4 already
GroundZero ‎(5:52 PM):
you cant expect all cards to have enough balance
sirac ‎(5:52 PM):
i can't send more!!
sirac ‎(5:52 PM):
i will now just send u , ur specific bin
sirac ‎(5:52 PM):
i should get that in a week
GroundZero ‎(5:53 PM):
then you cant expect me to send your share for one card, I have better things to do if you dont want to work that way
GroundZero ‎(5:53 PM):
I'll send your share once we've continued
sirac ‎(5:53 PM):
man i need my share!!
sirac ‎(5:53 PM):
or i open rippers thread
sirac ‎(5:54 PM):
and i post logs

GroundZero ‎(5:56 PM):
You would get more if we continued
sirac ‎(5:56 PM):
and i need my share or i open rippers thread, u can't force me to continue!!
sirac ‎(5:56 PM):
i have wasted 3 cards with u, u have my money, i need my share!!
GroundZero ‎(5:56 PM):
I'm not forcing you. You didnt read the rules, big bases or nothing.
GroundZero ‎(5:56 PM):
not one card.
sirac ‎(5:56 PM):
i have big bases!!
sirac ‎(5:57 PM):
and are u hgaving meomory issues?
sirac ‎(5:57 PM):
i sent u 4 cards
sirac ‎(5:57 PM):
u could only do 1 card
sirac ‎(5:57 PM):
is that my fault?
GroundZero ‎(5:57 PM):
4 cards is not a big base
GroundZero ‎(5:57 PM):
jeez
sirac ‎(5:57 PM):
should i send u 50 cards with " not enough balance" and then wait till u find one with balance?
GroundZero ‎(5:57 PM):
its not my fault they didnt have enough funds
sirac ‎(5:58 PM):
the reason i don't want to contine is cos my big base has just those bins as the bank u want!!
GroundZero ‎(5:58 PM):
I doubt 50 cards wouldn't have enough balance
sirac ‎(5:58 PM):
and u could only do one
sirac ‎(5:59 PM):
i don't care about ur doubts, u would have doubted if 3 cards would have done "not enough balance"
sirac ‎(5:59 PM):
but that was the reality!!
sirac ‎(5:59 PM):
so send me the shitty $80
sirac ‎(5:59 PM):
cos i don't have more of that same cards to waste!!
sirac ‎(6:00 PM):
besides the % is shitty minus the fees
sirac ‎(6:00 PM):
so send me my share and when i find biz bins or ur specific bin, we can continue
sirac ‎(6:01 PM):
or i open ripper's thread if u want to hold on to my share and force me to continue!!
GroundZero ‎(6:02 PM):
I havent ripped anyone
GroundZero ‎(6:02 PM):
I told you, im going to save your share til we continue
sirac ‎(6:02 PM):
yes, but u have my share
sirac ‎(6:02 PM):
i am saying i can't continue
sirac ‎(6:02 PM):
not with the same bins
GroundZero ‎(6:02 PM):
Then you should have read the rules first mate.
sirac ‎(6:02 PM):
cos that is what i have in my big base!!!
sirac ‎(6:02 PM):
then fucken send my share!!
GroundZero ‎(6:03 PM):
you told me you had more than those 4
sirac ‎(6:03 PM):
did ur fucken rules say, if u send 50 and all not have balances, u must keep sending till infinetely??
sirac ‎(6:03 PM):
yes i do!!
sirac ‎(6:03 PM):
but i can't keep sending them!!
sirac ‎(6:03 PM):
cos of dismal results!!
GroundZero ‎(6:04 PM):
man I dont see what you lose on sending them
GroundZero ‎(6:04 PM):
You cant expect all cards to work
GroundZero ‎(6:04 PM):
thats how carding works
sirac ‎(6:04 PM):
man i know, but i can't keep sending them, cos they become waste when u come with " not enough balance"!!
GroundZero ‎(6:04 PM):
But in this case, 100$ is nothing thats why I will save your share til we've got a higher balance.
sirac ‎(6:05 PM):
i don't need my $100 saved!!
sirac ‎(6:05 PM):
i need it!!
GroundZero ‎(6:05 PM):
then we continue, im a loyal person im not going to steal ur money.
sirac ‎(6:05 PM):
u can't tell me when to give me my share, u have it, and u can't force me to continue
sirac ‎(6:05 PM):
then send it
sirac ‎(6:05 PM):
that is the only way u can proof u don't want to steal it!!
GroundZero ‎(6:06 PM):
well you cant force me to send you the money for not reading the rules
sirac ‎(6:06 PM):
dude does ur fucken rules, say, i should keep sending you cards forever ? even if all come to " not enough balance" ?
sirac ‎(6:07 PM):
it does not fucken say that!!
sirac ‎(6:07 PM):
so u can't say i did not read rules, YOU DIDN'T STATE THAT THERE!!
GroundZero ‎(6:07 PM):
no, but it doesnt say "i'll send the money after 4 cards" either
sirac ‎(6:07 PM):
AND I AM TELLING U I HAVE NO MORE CARDS TO WASTE!!
sirac ‎(6:07 PM):
YES BUT U HAVE MY SHARE AND I NEED IT!!
sirac ‎(6:08 PM):
UR RULES NEVER SAID U WILL SAVE MY SHARE
sirac ‎(6:08 PM):
IF U DON'T WANT TO SEND IT , THEN SAY, SO I CAN OPEN RIPPER'S THREAD NOW
GroundZero ‎(6:08 PM):
no, but u told me from the beginning that you have a big base, and I am pretty sure most would agree with me that they wouldn't waste their time to cashout 1 card if the supplier didnt want to continue after one successfull attempt.
sirac ‎(6:08 PM):
AND WE ALLOW ADMIN JUDGE
sirac ‎(6:08 PM):
YES I DO!!
GroundZero ‎(6:08 PM):
stop writing in caps wow.
sirac ‎(6:09 PM):
JUST LIKE U ARE DECIDING TO HOLD MY MONEY, I AM DECIDING TO WRITE IN CAPS!!
GroundZero ‎(6:09 PM):
fine
sirac ‎(6:09 PM):
SO U NOT SENDING MY MONEY OR NOT??
sirac ‎(6:09 PM):
COS I DON'T HAVE ,MORE CARDS TO WASTE FOR "NOT ENOUGH BALANCE"!!
GroundZero ‎(6:09 PM):
You didnt read the rules, I am happy to continue but if you are going to act childish its your problem.
sirac ‎(6:10 PM):
I READ THE RULES!!!
sirac ‎(6:10 PM):
NO U ARE THE ONE ACTING STUPID FOR A STUPID $110!!
GroundZero ‎(6:10 PM):
It's not my fault the owners are poor, seriously kid, what is it that you dont get? Cant you get it in your head or what
sirac ‎(6:10 PM):
I TOLD U ,I HAVE MOST OF THOSE BINS
sirac ‎(6:10 PM):
BUT U TRIED 4, ALL BROUGH SHITTY RESULTS
sirac ‎(6:11 PM):
AND U STILL WANT ME TO CONTINUE SENDING U ??
GroundZero ‎(6:11 PM):
Haha, im the guy acting stupid? You are screaming at me for no reason
sirac ‎(6:11 PM):
FOR WHAT??
GroundZero ‎(6:11 PM):
If you would have read the rules you would understand
sirac ‎(6:11 PM):
YS U ARE ACTING STUPID!!
sirac ‎(6:11 PM):
I DID READ RULES
GroundZero ‎(6:11 PM):
listen
sirac ‎(6:11 PM):
THAT IS WHY I SENT U 4!!
sirac ‎(6:11 PM):
IF I DIDN'T READ RULES, CAN'T UR HEAD KNOW, I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR SHARE AFTER THE 1ST ONE??
sirac ‎(6:12 PM):
BUT I CAN'T KEEP SENDING U THOSE SAME BINS!!
sirac ‎(6:12 PM):
COS THOSE BINS HAVE SHITTU RESULTS
sirac ‎(6:12 PM):
AND I TOLD U FROM THE BEGINNING THOSE ARE THE BINS I HAVE!!
sirac ‎(6:12 PM):
SO SEND THE STUPID $110
GroundZero ‎(6:12 PM):
it's bad luck mate, you have to deal with it everyday
sirac ‎(6:12 PM):
OR I WRITE RIPPER'S THREAD
sirac ‎(6:13 PM):
I UNDERSTAND!!, BUT IT IS NOT BAD LUCK, WHEN U ACT STUPID AND DECIDE TO HOLD MY SHARE!!
sirac ‎(6:13 PM):
THAT IS BEING A RIPPER!!
GroundZero ‎(6:14 PM):
no its not? I am not using your share, im simply keeping it til you've proven me that "big base" of yours, how do I know you aren't buying those cards from someone else?
GroundZero ‎(6:14 PM):
since you are so desperate for the money it seems like thats how it is.
sirac ‎(6:14 PM):
I DON'T HAVE TO PROOF ANY STUPID SHIT TO YOU!!
sirac ‎(6:14 PM):
I SENT UR DICKHEAD 4 CARDS
sirac ‎(6:14 PM):
I NEED THE MOENY , COS I DON'T WANT TO KEEP WASTING MY CARDS!!
sirac ‎(6:15 PM):
AND U WANT TO RIP ME
sirac ‎(6:15 PM):
BY HOLDING MY SHARE!!
sirac ‎(6:15 PM):
BESIDES IF U ACT THIS STUPID FOR $110
sirac ‎(6:15 PM):
I WONDER WHAT U WOULD ACT WHEN THE SHARE IS $3K
sirac ‎(6:15 PM):
I TOLD U BEFORE I STARTED THE BINS I HAVE
GroundZero ‎(6:15 PM):
man you just oversaid yourself, if you cant prove that u dont have a bigbase how am I suppose to work with you then? I dont work with people who doesnt have a big base.
sirac ‎(6:16 PM):
I HAVE PROVEN IT TO YOU
GroundZero ‎(6:16 PM):
no you havent?
sirac ‎(6:16 PM):
I SENT U 3 CARDS
sirac ‎(6:16 PM):
ALL THE SAME BINS
GroundZero ‎(6:16 PM):
and you could just have bought them from someone else
sirac ‎(6:16 PM):
I TOLD U INITIALLY THAT WAS THE ONELY BINS I HAD!!
sirac ‎(6:16 PM):
ALL CAME WITH A SHIITY RESPONSE
sirac ‎(6:16 PM):
AND U STILL WANT ME TO KEEP SENDING?
sirac ‎(6:16 PM):
U THINK I AM STUPID??
sirac ‎(6:17 PM):
IS THAT NOT REALLY FOOLISH, SENDING THE SAME EXACT BINS, WHEN 4 HAS GIVEN SHITTY RESULTS??
sirac ‎(6:17 PM):
I TOLD U THOSE WERE THE BINS I HAD
GroundZero ‎(6:17 PM):
thats not my problem its a bad result, its pure bad luck, not all cards have enough funds, you dont get it.
sirac ‎(6:17 PM):
AND AFTER SENDING 4 AND GETTING A STUPID RESULT
sirac ‎(6:18 PM):
I CAN'T KEEPS SENDING THOSE BINS
sirac ‎(6:18 PM):
CAN'T UR RIPPING DICKHEAD SEE THAT THSE BINS SUCKS??
sirac ‎(6:18 PM):
AND U WANT ME TO KEEP PASYTING THEM , TILL FOREVER??
GroundZero ‎(6:18 PM):
man im not gona discuss with you anymore you are annoying and ignorant, once you decide to continue im HAPPY to send your share, but for now I only work with people who has bigbases and doesnt buy cards from someone else.
sirac ‎(6:18 PM):
I AM NOT CONTINIONG!!
sirac ‎(6:19 PM):
NOT WITH THOSE SAME BINS I HAVE!!
sirac ‎(6:19 PM):
I CAN'T KEEP WASTING THEM!!
sirac ‎(6:19 PM):
I HAVE BIGBASE, BUT I DON'T HAVE BIGBASE TO WASTE!!
sirac ‎(6:19 PM):
TELL ME ONE THING, ARE U SENDING ME MY SHARE OR NOT??
GroundZero ‎(6:19 PM):
why are you using the word "WASTE" when you have a big base, how can it possibly be a waste for you then?
GroundZero ‎(6:19 PM):
I'm not stupid
sirac ‎(6:20 PM):
IT IS A WASTE, COS I MAY FIND SOMONE ELSE THAT KNOWS HOW TO USE THEM, OR CAN USE THEM FOR $100-$200!!
sirac ‎(6:20 PM):
U SAID IT URSELF THAT U CAN'T DO LOW AMOUNTS!!
GroundZero ‎(6:20 PM):
well go ahead then?
sirac ‎(6:20 PM):
AND SO IT BECOMES A WASTE WITH U
GroundZero ‎(6:21 PM):
No, because you can still keep them if they dont have enough amount ?
sirac ‎(6:21 PM):
YEAH THAT IS WHY I STOPPED SENDING THEM TO YOU, TO AVIOD WASTES
GroundZero ‎(6:21 PM):
so they arent wasted.
sirac ‎(6:21 PM):
THEY ARE~!
GroundZero ‎(6:21 PM):
No.
sirac ‎(6:21 PM):
COS I TEST THEM FOR VALIDITY 1ST!!
sirac ‎(6:21 PM):
BEFORE SENDING U
sirac ‎(6:21 PM):
HOW LONG TILL OWNER SEES TEST CHARGE AND CALL BANK?
sirac ‎(6:22 PM):
ARE U A KID IN THIS BIZ?
GroundZero ‎(6:22 PM):
well I never told u to check the cards, so thats ur problem
sirac ‎(6:22 PM):
YEAH AND I ACCEPT THE LOSSES, BUT NOT READY FOR FURTHER LOSSES
sirac ‎(6:22 PM):
BY SENDING MORE!!
sirac ‎(6:22 PM):
SO NOW, U HAVE IT IN YOUR HEAD " WHAT WASTE IS'
sirac ‎(6:23 PM):
BESIDES IF U KNEW WHAT CHECKING IS, U WOULDN'T HAVE COME WITH THAT UNINFORMED NEWS ABOUT THAT CARD BEING DEAD, WHEN THE PROBLEM WAS LOW BALANCE!!
GroundZero ‎(6:24 PM):
they are wasted because you check the cards in the beginning even if I havent said a word about it. If you wouldn't checked them first they wouldn't have gone to waste since I only authorize them for the amount.
GroundZero ‎(6:24 PM):
So no damage would have been taken.
GroundZero ‎(6:24 PM):
dead, low balance whatever bro.
sirac ‎(6:24 PM):
YEAH, I CHECK THEM, SO THAT NO ONE BLAMES ME FOR SENDING DEAD CVVS
sirac ‎(6:25 PM):
DEAD AND LOW BALANCEA NOT THE SAME, GET THAT IN UR HEAD!!
GroundZero ‎(6:25 PM):
no I didn't say that?
GroundZero ‎(6:25 PM):
seriously calm down, I start to wonder what you've been through to get so mad on the internet
sirac ‎(6:25 PM):
anyway, i have no mre cards to waste, i will only send you, ur specific biz bin, but not that bin again!!
sirac ‎(6:26 PM):
i get mad, when kids think they are smart!!
GroundZero ‎(6:26 PM):
fine then let me know when you want to continue
sirac ‎(6:26 PM):
I AM NOT CONTINUING!!
GroundZero ‎(6:26 PM):
and you dont know me, I think im more mature than you.
sirac ‎(6:26 PM):
cos u are trying to play smart
sirac ‎(6:26 PM):
doesn't matter
sirac ‎(6:27 PM):
AS LONG AS U ACT CHILDHISH, I DON'T CARE HOW OLD U ARE!!
GroundZero ‎(6:27 PM):
you are the one using capslock out of anger
GroundZero ‎(6:27 PM):
not me.
sirac ‎(6:27 PM):
if u come up with the childsih attitude of holding on to my $$ to force me to contine, that is childish for me
sirac ‎(6:28 PM):
so i am not continuing with that same bins!!
GroundZero ‎(6:28 PM):
im not forcing you, but you havent proven to me what my rules said
sirac ‎(6:28 PM):
cos i have no more to waste!!
GroundZero ‎(6:28 PM):
see now ur using the word waste again
GroundZero ‎(6:28 PM):
im not gona discuss with you anymore
sirac ‎(6:28 PM):
i sent u 4, before i sent them i told u , these were the bins i had
GroundZero ‎(6:28 PM):
calm down and then we talk again
sirac ‎(6:28 PM):
dude u think i enjoy this lame discussion??
sirac ‎(6:29 PM):
there is nothing to be calm about!!
sirac ‎(6:29 PM):
are u sending me my $$ or not?
sirac ‎(6:29 PM):
if not, let me know, then i open rippers thread now and i post logs, and we wait admin'st decision!!
sirac ‎(6:30 PM):
but u can't come and force me to keep sending u the same bins that has a very low success rate!!, os those are the bins i have!!
sirac ‎(6:30 PM):
no response in in the next 20 mins i open rippers thread!!
GroundZero ‎(6:31 PM):
go ahead mate, but I havent ripped you, you didnt read the rules.
sirac ‎(6:32 PM):
ok i open thread now , RIPPER!!
GroundZero ‎(6:32 PM):
go ahead
sirac ‎(6:32 PM):
UN;LESS PERHAPS U ARE ALSO DUMB!!, U ARE A RIPPER, U HAVE MY SHARE, BUT REFUSED TO SEND IT!!
GroundZero ‎(6:32 PM):
no I didnt refuse to
GroundZero ‎(6:33 PM):
im not gona discuss this again, you know what I said
sirac ‎(6:34 PM):
YES U REFUSED TO!!
sirac ‎(6:34 PM):
RIPPER

GroundZero said:

He knew the rules but refused to prove me that he had a "bigbase" - Which could mean, he bought the cards, seeing as I recived one card that another supplier gave me two days earlier. I haven't stolen his share, I told him nicely that he will recive his share once he shows me that he has what I requested in my post. He didn't agree with that and started shouting with capslock, accusing me for being a kid and imature. I would say hes the imature for false accusing me for "ripping" when I have no intention to do that. I also told him, once he shows me what I asked for in my thread he will recive his part of the money. He didn't agree and again started the discussion. I am quite sure every cashier here wouldn't want to work with someone who provides him with four cards, out of one having enough funds. Then shouting that he doesn't want to "Waste" more cards because simply bad luck. It's not the cashiers fault that the creditcard owner is poor. He doesn't realize that not every card can have enough funds, thats how it works. On another part, I don't see why cards would go to a waste if you've got a "bigbase" All I asked for was the Handelsbanken bins. Not the other countries he may have. They wouldn't go to a waste either way, since I only authorize the cards for the amount. If they ain't got the amount, he can have his card back. Might also add, I don't see why he would need that low amount so fast, if he didn't buy the cards from someone else. To be honest, that makes sense and that also sums up why he didn't want to "waste" more cards.

Edit: Admins might want to check this guy out as well, I believe he has another account or it's just another poor fella: toriukas11

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Yes i read the rules and yes i have a big base, but after sending your Ripping dickhead valid 4 cards and getting just a shitty $110 from one (as my share, which u want to rip) and most saying " not enough balance", i told i couldn't continue sending you that bins (which i have in my big base), cos chances are that it will return " not enough balance".
You say u haven't stolen my share? But u refuse to send me my share ??

You did not tell me any shit nicely!! your dumb forceful attempt to force me to continue to send cc before u send me my share, u term " nicely" ?
Yes i started shouting , when u started acting stupid, immature and behaving like a THIEF!
No, i would say u are retarded for holding my share and refusing to send it and telling me you will save it...i don't need u to save my share, u have it!!, send my share or get banned!!.
Groundzero it seems u really memory issues, maybe cos of ur ripping tactics!!The Handelsbanken cards i have are the same bins which of out 4 cards one produces just a shitty $110 my share, i will not keep sending those same bins, just to please your ripping dickhead, cos the results are shityy, not even a 40% sucess rate, more like a 25% sucess rate with very low amounts, SO NO, I WILL NOT CONTINUE with you!!

So pay me my $110, share or get banned!!, You can't force me to continue and waste my cards, besides u have my share, if u were serious in continuing your ripping dickhead should have sent it to even motivate me to continue sending u stuffs, but not by withholding it and trying to rip me and still expect me to send more stuff!!..You want to rip me more??

GroundZero said:

I don't work with people who buys cards. I can do that on my own, and if you don't want to continue you still haven't proven to me what I requested. So thats your fault, not mine. I can gladly pay you back the amount that the card is worth if thats so. But don't call me a ripper when you haven't read the rules.

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1st of all i didn't but the cards, so don't come with that retarded lame crap of buying cards. I contacted you and told u i had your bank cards, i gave u one instantly, i wanted to paste u more same day, but u said we should wait till the 1st one clears.....days after it clears, i paste u 3 and ur retarded ripping dickhead is still here saying i buy cards? WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP FROM A RIPPING PIG!!

You want me to send you 50 cards and waste them on your dickhead, when u couldn't cashout 4 successfully? the only one u cashed was a shitty $369, which u eventually said i would get $80 for
Listen KID!!, i didn't paste u cvv for intention to selling it to you!! You have my share, so send it or get banned!!
Is it not funny now that u have my money, instead of sending it, ur dickhead is saying u will send me the price of the cvv
WHAT A RETARDED THIEF and DUMB RIPPER

GroundZero said:

If you only knew how hard it is to find someone who sells those bins you would know. So get your facts straight. I never said I am taking the money from him, he can have his share once he have proven the fact that I requested in my thread. It's simple rules, and rules are to be followed otherwise it's not my fault.

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Dude, did you even finish school? Because you don't even get that you're the one who are wrong here. You could have bought the cards and said you had them? Seeing as YOU were the one pasting ME bins that I hadn't asked for. You also can't expect me to get more than 370$ when there isn't ENOUGH funds on the card. You can't take money out of the card when there isnt any money on it, can you get that into ur head? So don't say it's nothing. It's atleast SOMETHING.

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Lol i could have bought the cards, but ur RIPPING DICKHEAD WROTE it is hard to get the bins forom vendors
Yes i pasted the bins, cos u never said u wanted specific bins, u said u need any cvv from that BANK , you stupid moron!!, so don't come here and talk shit!!
those bins i have in my big base are classic and after 4 attempts i got just $110, u think i will keep pasting them and wasting them, should they come with "not enough balance"?
Yeah the 30% sucks, besides from the $110 my share, i was hoping i would get the full $110, didn't know out of that shitty %, u were still going to deduct $30!! and to make matters worse, YOUR RIPPING DICKHEAD DECIDED TO RIP!!

What stupid proof do u want? i would have pasted you 10 -20yesterday if your success rate was high!!, Can't u get that in your dumb retarded ripping head!!
i decided not to send more, cos ur success rate was low and didn't want to waste more cards, cos as i rule, i test cvv for validity before sending, so that retarded ripping kids like you don't come up with lies about cvv being dead, when they are alive!!
You want to keep wasting cards to proof i have a big base?? WHAT A HUNGRY MORONIC KID!!
the questions that needs to be answered is this,
DO YOU HAVE MY SHARE WITH YOU?
Answer: Yes
HAVE U PAID ME? :
answer: No
DO YOU INTEND TO PAY ME ?
answer: No
SO you want to RIP SIRAC FOR $110?
answer: yes

GroundZero said:

I can't control the balance on the cards you fucking retard. How hard is that to understand? Tell me, how can the cards be a waste when they don't have a high enough amount? They we're never used by me, I only authorize them for the amount availible from the cashout location. They don't die from that, but you decided to check the cards first. So thats your fault if they die after a while, thats your problem if they're wasted. Not mine. Anyone with a high enough IQ would understand that not every card can come out good, it depends on your source. Oh, and shouting over the internet gets you nowhere. I will wait til a moderator or administrator replies for now.

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You retarded MORON and dumb THIEF, where did your ripping dickhead see where i said ur fuckface can control balances?
You said how can the cards be waste..LOOK AT THE LOG BELOW since ur dickhead suffers MEMORY LOSS

sirac ‎(3:05 PM):
got?
GroundZero ‎(3:05 PM):
ye
GroundZero ‎(3:29 PM):
card is dead
sirac ‎(4:22 PM):
Hi
GroundZero ‎(4:23 PM):
card was dead
sirac ‎(4:23 PM):
wait, i check
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
card is valid
GroundZero ‎(4:31 PM):
no its not
GroundZero ‎(4:31 PM):
or it has very low funds
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
yes it is
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
may have low funds
sirac ‎(4:31 PM):
but not dead
GroundZero ‎(6:24 PM):
dead, low balance whatever bro.


when lame retarded kids like u don't know the difference when a card is dead and when it has low balance that is why i need to test, so that your stupid dickhead doesn't come with your stupid ill-informed notion of me sending you a DEAD CARD U PIG!!

You are dodging the question u pig!, i never said i expected all the cards to have balance, but those with brains unlike u who was born naturally dumb and stupid will know that when u keep using a particular bin and u get dismal results, chances are that u will keep getting dismal results!!
when u came with so many " not enough balance" from the same bins (which was the bins i had from your bank), i told u that bin is classic and not plat/gold or biz bin, which usually has so much higher balances than classic!
So i told u i can't continue with that bins (IT IS IN THE LOGS U MORONIC FOOL!)
and would continue when i get biz bins or plastic bins.....but your ripping dickhead tried to force me to keep pasting bins that evidently had low balances!! and when i declined u decided not to send me my share u RIPPING THIEF
if u could stop thinking like a kid without brains, u think if u had a success rate with that bin, i wouldn't have sent more?? HOW COME U ARE THIS DUMB??

B]Ironically i found that special bin today (in a new base), that bin u said could do 3k, but how can i trust a dumb stupid thief like u with 3k, when you were to childish, stupid and acted like a retarded pig for $369 [/B]
though u are right the bin is rare, cos i just found only 3 in the base
proof? this is one
kxxxx joxxxx | kxxx joxxxx | 4277233xxxxxxxxx | xxx | xx-20xx | SWE | | xxxxxx | toxxx | nottjxxxxx12 | 46-70-xx-xxxx | [email protected]

GroundZero said:

Seriously you must be a very disturbed kid.

Do you have to act like a child and swear in every sentence you write? I get it, you are angry because you didn't realize what I was looking for. But if you read again what I wrote, I cant control balances and I told you from the beginning that Swedish cards only has Classic for Private Persons. Business cards are for people who has a company. I know the diffrence between a dead and low funds card, but that doesn't mean I theoriticaly have to type it out step by step so you understand. I authorized the card by the amount as the previous cards. Low funds, dead it doesn't matter, it didn't work anyhow.

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Seriously u must be a retarded dumb kid and this is no swear, this is just your reality (being dumb and a natural retard)
Who is acting stupid and childish here trying to rip me for a cheap and stupid $110? all fingers point to YOU! THIEF
Are u stupid or u have reading issues? did i say a thief like u could control balances? or can u tell me where i blamed u for low balances? I only told you i didn't want to keep sending you classics cos of the numerous " low balances" and would PayPal to sending you biz when i check my new base U RETARD!

obviously ur dumb dickhead didn't know the difference btw if a card was dead or low balance, that is why u wrote that!!, it clearly showed ur stupidity and how new in the game a lame kid like u is in the game!!
Anyway send me my $110 or get banned!!
it is funny how for an amount this cheap, u decided to rip..YOU PROBABLY HAD A VERY BROKE and HUNGRY CHILDHOOD AND U NEED TO RIP TO FEED

admin how long till this thief gets banned??

no mod??

is there no moderator anymore?
THIS retarded LAME KID and dumb stupid Ripper hasn't paid me yet and he still not banned !!

Panther said:

GroundZero pay him or i`ll put status RIPPER.
Sirac - Watch your language,this is the FIRST and LAST warning i`m gonna give to you.

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he is still refusing to pay me

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GroundZero said:

Panther, he didn't read the rules it's his fault.

GZero can approve i'm not a ripper, because I have paid him when we've done Cashouts.

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I read the rules, u probably did not!!
I have base, i gave u 4 at once, i refused to continue cos of your dismal performance!! You come with the accusation i buy ccs cos i refused to continue wasting my classic sweden ccs??

you will be banned, so there become no new victims!!

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GZero said:

I have done some business with Ground Zero.

I'll admit, things didn't seem to go right, but one or two small things came off and he has paid the balance.

I'll admit, it crossed my mind, but I don't think he's ripped me, just perhaps isn't QUITE as good at cashing out as he thinks


I'm happy to continue dealing with him, although I admit, I threw a lot of CCs at the guy and there always seemed to be some problem. He maintains I can check these and will still be live.

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Charged: $0.3
Result: 00 Approved
Card Security Code Match: Y

Some were dead, some are live.


I'm happy this is no ripper, perhaps he needs to highlight the fact that what he does doesn't always work. To his credit, his rules were explicit, in this case I can't see that he has done anything wrong.

Does anybody else have anything to prove otherwise? Personally I quite like the guy.

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My point exactly, i gave him 4 cards, he could only cash one for $369, my share of a misery $110. his success rate is low so i said no, i can't continue with those bins! cos like you wrote all the time i threw ccs at this RIPPER, there always seems to be a problem!

But i find your last statement (bold green) wrong!! and no it is not explicit!! Can you show me where he wrote on his rules that i should keep throwing him ccs all the time even when his performance sucks?? I fulfilled the rule of having my own base, but i refused to throw more ccs at him when there was always an issue of " not enough balance" and to make it worst he tried To force me to continue unless i wouldn't be paid my share!!
THAT IS BEING A RIPPER, unless perhaps u are giving him a BLIND SUPPORT!

GroundZero said:

If you somehow prove to me that you have a bigbase, I will give you some money.

But you have to prove that this is a valid base, and you haven't taken some old base from another site with alot of dead cards.

Panther, I am not here to rip and I have done successfull deals with GZero, those 'problems' occur sometimes when there isn't enough funds. It's common sense and apperantly Sirac doesn't understand the meaning of common sense.

If he proves what my rule stated, he will recive the money.

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First of all i have nothing to proof to you!! 2ndly i don't want some money but i want my only share!!
You really must have memory issues, the 4 cards i sent was any of them invalid? Even when u claimed wrongly some was dead i showed it it was valid!!
The only way i can proof to you is to send you more cards and u coming with further dismal results, but i can't waste more on you, so don't bring up that crap!! Besides i now have your bins in my new base, but i can't continue with a RIPPER LIKE YOU!!
Panther, Groundzero is here to rip, u told him to pay and he is still here buying time!! I never said it was his fault in " not enough balance", i only told him that since those bins were what i had of his specific bank in my base and those bins brought dismal results, i was not willing to send more, SO SEND ME MY SHARE AND WHEN I GET YOUR BIZ BINS I WILL DEAL WITH YOU....the biz bins i have now, but not willing to deal with the RIPPER ANYMORE!!
btw the ripper Groundzero and me who has common sense? The one holding my $110 and trying to force me to continue so that i get ripped more?? Is that what u were taught common sense is? or maybe to you common sense=ripping sense