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Whats the best way to skim? As a cashier,gas pump or atm? looking to get pins for cashout...Can anyone shed some light on this for my please? What equipment do i need and whats my best options? Have read some guides but most them are out dated i think.. thanks to everyone who helps...will add rep points too
 

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There is diffrent ways to skim and they are all good it just depends on you;
-cashier you can have a pager(mini123) and then you just have to upload your dumps on your pc, then you need a msr206 to write your them.
-Gas pump suposebly you can open the machine outside and put a device that records all the transactions but its hard to do, you need distraction and be very well organised.
-In gas stations you can hack the pos(pin pad) for exemple the ingenico wich will record all the transactions with the pin, but you need some software and a program, its a bit complicated, thats what im looking into right now, I have 4-5 spots and I want to do them my self.
Atm skimming, you can buy the reader, the pad or a camera(for the pins) You just have to install a reader that matches your target, the same goes for the pad or if u have a camera make sure no one can see it, or that the cameras from the place sees u. Leave it for a few days because most batteries last 3-4days max, go pick up your equipment first then upload all your tracks but once again you need a msr206 to be able to write, you should have the pins from the video recording so all you have to do afterwards is go cash out.
Personaly I find it the best grind but I haven't found no one that actualy sell's it, there is soo much rippers out there, you have to be careful!!!
 

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im thinking about using a cashier but im not sure how easy it would be for them to get the pin # any tips or recommendations would be helpful....
ps thanks beans
 

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Bean,

Tell us more about ingenico hijacking please...
 

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plz answer my question before going off topic
im thinking about using a cashier but im not sure how easy it would be for them to get the pin # any tips or recommendations would be helpful....
ps thanks beans
 

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For cashiers, it depends on how they usely swipe customers (is there a counter and is it high enough, do they use a keyboard to swipe the clients card) the pagers are very small and it could be done depending on the enviroment(you have to go see for your self, find a way to use the pager with out bringing attention from the customer)
At a time I had ppl with pagers at mcdonalds, hotel reception, hospital parking lot and when I started my self I was working at a full service gas station.
It can be nerve recking for the cashier the first few times but afterwards it becomes like a habbit ;)
Now for the camera, what I would recomend is a pen camera, its a bit bigger then a regular pen but it does the job.
Or depending on your spot, you can put a camera on the ceiling, but thats a bit harder to install with out anyone noticing you and to upload the video...

This is what I bought:
http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...mera-DVR-USB-Hidden-Gadget-W0QQAdIdZ172697367

Finaly, you have to use your imagination for the camera instalation and figure out a senario for the swiping.
 

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There is diffrent ways to skim and they are all good it just depends on you;
-cashier you can have a pager(mini123) and then you just have to upload your dumps on your pc, then you need a msr206 to write your them.
-Gas pump suposebly you can open the machine outside and put a device that records all the transactions but its hard to do, you need distraction and be very well organised.
-In gas stations you can hack the pos(pin pad) for exemple the ingenico wich will record all the transactions with the pin, but you need some software and a program, its a bit complicated, thats what im looking into right now, I have 4-5 spots and I want to do them my self.
Atm skimming, you can buy the reader, the pad or a camera(for the pins) You just have to install a reader that matches your target, the same goes for the pad or if u have a camera make sure no one can see it, or that the cameras from the place sees u. Leave it for a few days because most batteries last 3-4days max, go pick up your equipment first then upload all your tracks but once again you need a msr206 to be able to write, you should have the pins from the video recording so all you have to do afterwards is go cash out.
Personaly I find it the best grind but I haven't found no one that actualy sell's it, there is soo much rippers out there, you have to be careful!!!


ATM skimming is the best way i think. But I recommended the pinpad than camera for you guys. Some ppl know how to defense against carders who use cameras. So in my opinion pinpad is better.
 
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    thanks for the info BigB-you are good

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Bean,

Tell us more about ingenico hijacking please...



Ingenico is not an easy topic and honestly im still learning. From what I was reading on su, people with the software wont give out and its hard to get it.
From my understanding, you need a software and a program, you need to install a program that will allow you to record all activities(tracks,pin) but when you install it, you cannot disturb the original program that allows customers to pay for marchandise(regular transactions).
Doing all that needs a lot of brain.
Basicly if u have all that and u can do it, take the pad, plug it to your laptop(dunno what kind of connections), install w.e u have to install and put it back, some you can upload via bluetooth and other oldschool ones you have to go and grab it physically.

Like I said before im not 100% about all this, best thing to do is read and read.
-This has something to do with it:
http://www.ingenico.co.uk/INGENICO_...itedKingdom/Software/datasheet-ingedev-uk.pdf
-You can also google: (play with the words in ur research)
Unicapt ambient softwares
IngedeV32

Also it depends on where you are located and the model of the pos!!

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ATM skimming is the best way i think. But I recommended the pinpad than camera for you guys. Some ppl know how to defense against carders who use cameras. So in my opinion pinpad is better.

Defently right about the pinpad but it needs wayy more work, making sure it looks identical, not too much glue, make sure it PayPals and that it wont move and other crap that will come up lol

Yet you have to find someone that sells it, because there is soo much rippers out there, like some guy told me to send him 1500us upfront, no one knows him and the only things he showed me that made me feel 5% safer was a pic with the device with my name on a paper behind...

If you have anyone that sells it, let me know Big B!!!
 

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seriously guys..."you need a software and a program".. sorry it made me laugh

You guys need to keep reading..There is no software or program.. Software and program is the same meaning but just 2 different words.. The only software that needed is if your using a bluetooth skimmer to download the tracks and pins. You will get the software if you buy a skimmer chip from someone. . There is also a GSM chip instead of bluetooth. It send a sms message with track 2 data and pin.. 100% better then bluetooth. Since you dont have to go to the store daily to retrieve your data. You can be anywhere in the worlkd and get the data..

To open the ingenico pin pad you have to follow specific instruction because it has tamper detection switch's. If one of the switch's goes the unit is fried. You also cannot get a pin pad from one store and put it in a different store. It has to go back to the store it was taken from. This is because the pin pad has specific 3des keys that are only for that store..

What you are looking for is a ingenico skimming chip. This chip once installed into the ingenico 3070 pin pad. will save all the track data and pin data. Their is also a silver flex membrane that is used to get the pin data. It is a flexible circuit. Look at pictures below


The unicapt software is for development. Its used to develop software that goes on the POS machine "computer not pin pad" to run day to day transactions.. not to skim data.... once you enter your pin on the ingenico pin pad it get encrypted instantly. after its encrypted the only time it gets decrypted is when its at the processor.. You could make software to capture the track 2 data on the POS machine..but it hardly has any use..because your need the pin..could be used just to get track 2 of credit card

Here are some examples of the shit you need to mod a ingenico 3070 pin pad:

Keypad Membrane:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5026/mem.png
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8024/dvc00011.jpg

Chip:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9464/chip2.png
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3350/dvc00002.jpg

Membrane and bluetooth and chip

http://i42.tinypic.com/o08dqp.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8426/dvc00012.jpg

REP me for this post if you liked it..
 
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seriously guys..."you need a software and a program".. sorry it made me laugh

You guys need to keep reading..There is no software or program.. Software and program is the same meaning but just 2 different words.. The only software that needed is if your using a bluetooth skimmer to download the tracks and pins. You will get the software if you buy a skimmer chip from someone. . There is also a GSM chip instead of bluetooth. It send a sms message with track 2 data and pin.. 100% better then bluetooth. Since you dont have to go to the store daily to retrieve your data. You can be anywhere in the worlkd and get the data..

To open the ingenico pin pad you have to follow specific instruction because it has tamper detection switch's. If one of the switch's goes the unit is fried. You also cannot get a pin pad from one store and put it in a different store. It has to go back to the store it was taken from. This is because the pin pad has specific 3des keys that are only for that store..

What you are looking for is a ingenico skimming chip. This chip once installed into the ingenico 3070 pin pad. will save all the track data and pin data. Their is also a silver flex membrane that is used to get the pin data. It is a flexible circuit. Look at pictures below


The unicapt software is for development. Its used to develop software that goes on the POS machine "computer not pin pad" to run day to day transactions.. not to skim data.... once you enter your pin on the ingenico pin pad it get encrypted instantly. after its encrypted the only time it gets decrypted is when its at the processor.. You could make software to capture the track 2 data on the POS machine..but it hardly has any use..because your need the pin..could be used just to get track 2 of credit card

Here are some examples of the shit you need to mod a ingenico 3070 pin pad:

Keypad Membrane:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5026/mem.png
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8024/dvc00011.jpg

Chip:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9464/chip2.png
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3350/dvc00002.jpg

Membrane and bluetooth and chip

http://i42.tinypic.com/o08dqp.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8426/dvc00012.jpg

REP me for this post if you liked it..

Thx for the info bro....+ rep for you
 

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CDN-VEN,
most of te pictures are from a member from the another forum, MASTERHUSTLER. what do you knwo about him? is he turned to be a ripper? i remember he stopped to reply to ppl someday. please let me know if you have any info. thank you . +1 given.
 

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I grabbed the pics from csu board.. Most likely some ripper.. I don't know for sure... There will be a vendor soon selling the gsm chip on this board and . Su board.. He said he's going to signup an start vending...still waiting
 

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CDN-VEN

Im glad you find my shit funny bro but this aint my field I was just tryin to help by saying what I know..
but thanks for the info
 

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its all good....not flaming or anything...you heard info that was bullshit...you will get alot of that on open forums..alot of newbies saying they know things when they dont...
 

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I can make the vx510 for all if u want.. here are the proves.. membrane picture whit switch distamper off
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if u want more pics.. reputation an PM.
i want to exchange the schematics from vx510 and i want a software to test track2 online.
sorry my english.. im latin...
 
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